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My favorite scene so far. Keep it up dev!
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anyways, it's been pages of this, let's move on.
Will Sam have his way with the bartender?
Will Sam have his way with the bartender?
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You are overthinking things. It's entirely possible to enjoy an artist's art and dislike the artist for some other reason at the same time but still support their art. These things are not mutually exclusive. The same is true of actors, athletes, and musicians.
Thousands of people paid big money to watch Mike Tyson fight after he was convicted of rape. Does that mean all of those people that bought a ticket are pro-rape? HELL NO! Absolutely not! They are pro boxing. They enjoy his boxing and disregard his personal life and criminal status.
Millions of people bought Micheal Jackson music after he was accused of touching little boys... Does that make them all pro pedo? No... They just love his music.
I love the movie Taxi Driver, and I think Robert DeNiro played the part perfectly. Does that mean that I agree with his personal politics? No... No, it doesn't I don't even like the guy personally.
I'm not saying L&P is guilty of any of that shit, but it doesn't matter if he is because that doesn't change his art.
A lot of people think your rants are just annoying dude. What are you trying to accomplish with them? Are you like trying to get him to lose support, or get shutdown, or lose his cool, or delay launches or whatever?
Nobody wants these outcomes that are trying to push for dude. A lot of people enjoy his game, and don't want all that drama, and think it would be nice if L&P could come in here without people like you causing him to lose his cool then poof from the forums for another 6 months.
Also, you don't know what he has done or hasn't done in terms of his goals. For example his claims he is quit his other job. How do you know he hasn't? He very well could have. Has he been showing you his tax return and pay stubs? You are keeping tabs on that for him letting us know?
I will try to answer from my point of view, I am not calling anyone to anything, but I think many people share this point of view, I was a patron and gave my money with a certain purpose - to help in the development of the game, speed up its release and, finally, get a full game, but I stopped being a patron when I realized that the increase in money in this case, did not change anything in the development of the game. If the professionals paid for the viewing - the fight took place, the people who paid for the film - watched the film, in this case. Supporting your opinion, I think that people should pay for art and not just give money to the creator, I had the impression that I do not acquire anything paying a person money ...
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Didn't he talk about his sidejob in his recent rant a couple pages back? That it's so hard to manage both his job and the development of the game? Which would directly be in conflict with one of the Patreon goals he achieved probably a year or more ago? A Patreon goal that leads people to believe in more time spend towards the development of the game (as that's literally what the goal says), which in return would reduce the time between releases. I'm way too lazy to go back and check, but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, if that's the case, I'd call it a pretty scummy way to lure people into paying him, making 'em think that doing so will help with the development speed. I do remember that pretty much the same thing happened when he reached his final goal, though. The one about his college courses and going full-time developer mode. Then again, it's been so long since I stopped supporting his Patreon page that alot of it is starting to become blurry, and I honestly don't really care much about that anymore.
I'm just a dirty little pirate waiting for a free update at this point.
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I guess you only read what Viper wrote after those screenshots, anyone with decent English could understand that L&P's statement meant that it is not possible to deliver as many renders at his quality so much dialogue while having a side job. It is not possible for him, which implies that he has quit the side job.
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Aight, so I was curious enough to scroll through a bunch of pages to find L&P's post regarding the sidejob. Interesingly enough, said post is now deleted and can only be found in form of a quote from this post, and a screenshot Viper's made later on:
(click on the post to see the quote I'm talking about)
I'm not sure why this post was being deleted, and I don't see a reason for a moderator to do so. Could very well mean that L&P himself did it after noticing a little oopsie. And from what I read there, it doesn't sound all that obvious to me that L&P quit his sidejob because he couldn't manage it all. Ofcourse you could argue that that's what he was implying, but to me it sounds more like; "YOU wouldn't be able to do all of this while having a sidejob like I do!", basically bragging in the same way he does in his other recent posts shitting on other creators and acting like god himself. Nothing he said there actually states that he had to quit his job, and nobody else mentioned the sidejob either before he did. Being able to speak decent English certainly doesn't make that statement any clearer. It can be laid out in both ways. Now, obviously supporters gonna say it implies what you think it implies, and the doubters will probably say the opposite, so it's gonna remain a mystery I guess.You say, dah...
Unfortunately, this clear and well considered response, to a Viper rant, has very little chance at success. I appreciate your attempt. The Ignore function is the only sure way to solve the issue of Viper. He has taken it upon himself a quest, that none can guess the actual purpose.
Why L&P then decides to dive into a diatribe, of his own vitriol, with Viper is also an unknowable idea. So many interested posters here and he places them on ignore.
Thank you for the attempt, however.
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The first person to mention the sidejob was viper as far as I remember, when he kept taunting with non fulfillment of goals. That's why L&P addressed it.Aight, so I was curious enough to scroll through a bunch of pages to find L&P's post regarding the sidejob. Interesingly enough, said post is now deleted and can only be found in form of a quote from this post, and a screenshot Viper's made later on:
(click on the post to see the quote I'm talking about)
I'm not sure why this post was being deleted, and I don't see a reason for a moderator to do so. Could very well mean that L&P himself did it after noticing a little oopsie. And from what I read there, it doesn't sound all that obvious to me that L&P quit his sidejob because he couldn't manage it all. Ofcourse you could argue that that's what he was implying, but to me it sounds more like; "YOU wouldn't be able to do all of this while having a sidejob like I do!", basically bragging in the same way he does in his other recent posts shitting on other creators and acting like god himself. Nothing he said there actually states that he had to quit his job, and nobody else mentioned the sidejob either before he did. Being able to speak decent English certainly doesn't make that statement any clearer. It can be laid out in both ways. Now, obviously supporters gonna say it implies what you think it implies, and the doubters will probably say the opposite, so it's gonna remain a mystery I guess.
He says try doing quality scenes like his with that much dialogue and then look how much time is still left and if you could still do a side job. The only interpretation is that he can't do a side job now because of the amount of work.
Wouldn't it be redundant and absolutely stupid for him to brag that he is still doing a side job even though its on his goal to quit it even when no asked him about it. He or any person would only mention it if they are talking about not doing that job anymore.
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He quit his part-time job. And finally stops harping on this 11h/day. That was a statement from him when he was busy with Aiden's 3rd task. Everyone has seen the result. Everyone should be aware that he doesn't work 11h every day. This effort can only be done in the short term.
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One thing that speaks for your interpretation is the fact that L&P makes thousands of dollars every month with his game, and a lousy sidejob would pretty much be a waste of time. Time that could be spend on the game's development and even more income.
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My favorite scene and i hopes sam will be grope her breast after aiden..
I noticed that as well. I do not remember if it was a past reference or a current one. That would clearly change the outcome of his statement. Unfortunately I see L&P as no better than Viper and duplicitous as well. I believe it is one of the main reasons he works alone. The work with others occurs at the end, as a piece work element, not a team process throughout production. A consistent presence would expose anything that is not in concert with his statements.
I have no proof of this it is just a gut feeling. Why is translation not done if he has already written it. Why does the programming also come after all the artwork. As portions are completed so could the programming. Rendering could be done by another as soon as he moves to another scene. All this would drop the production time considerably. It is his game. He can do this as he pleases. It just begs credulity, his, with what he stated as his plan and what he continually implies in his posts. If he spends 3 to 4 months in scene creation and there is almost no time in the other areas 90% of us would be more than happy. 9 % would be meh to it is a bit slow. And 1% would still rant.
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He can't give the rendering to someone. He addressed that. He has to make the adjustments to lighting for every change in camera angle before rendering. That's why he doesn't do batch renders
fucking Aiden
Sam wouldn't have to grope her by force, she would let him...
btw is Aiden the first guy who touched her boobs in the game? besides Liam?
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No, the thugs at the metro station did it.fucking Aiden
Sam wouldn't have to grope her by force, she would let him...
btw is Aiden the first guy who touched her boobs in the game? besides Liam?