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oktabitt

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
 

imbatshit452

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
because she's a good girl... for now.
 

Xyzwvu

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
No buddy, in a realistic game satisfaction won’t come that easy. Sofia will be put in erotic and sensual situations and that will gradually change her.
 

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
I suggest you randomly review some of the 4000+ pages here for your answer. It ain't like it is hidden!
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
If you're expecting sex scenes (outside of her marriagee) when you open the .exe file, come back in 3-5 years.
 

Old Dog

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Sophia only goes shopping for a sundress if you are on the Aiden route so Dylan can't buy the bikini's otherwise plus if you don't take the Aiden deal then Dylan goes to bording school and you get the Dylan/Amber route instead.
I had thought that she went shopping with Patricia for the dress,my mistake
 
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Mamonetti

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So any news on L&P finally getting help on the 3D stuff? Now that Mr Jet should be finishing BARS, it would be a great opportunity to join efforts.

Combined with outsourcing the translation part, the development speed could be twice faster to say the least.
 
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So any news on L&P finally getting help on the 3D stuff? Now that Mr Jet should be finishing BARS, it would be a great opportunity to join efforts.

Combined with outsourcing the translation part, the development speed could be twice faster to say the least.
Honestly, i almost given up whether LP will miraculous speed his game ...
 
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oktabitt

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Hi, I recently start this game but why in all scenes don't go anymore further... like with the workers on the kitchen she didn't anything at all or with the black man in the shower she didn't take off the panties or give him a BJ... does anyone knows if the creator deliberately goes slow slow and in future updates will reviale the real WOMAN?

P.S. Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".

As I saw there some scenes "Hot Evening" and "Assault in Subway" from the Gallery that even didn't showed at all as I played (were skipped for some reason). Maybe for that I founded quite soft! Does anybody knows why I missed that scenes?
 

Old Dog

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As I saw there some scenes "Hot Evening" and "Assault in Subway" from the Gallery that even didn't showed at all as I played (were skipped for some reason). Maybe for that I founded quite soft! Does anybody knows why I missed that scenes?
"Subway thugs" take the subway(not the car) to get to the salon.
"Hot evening"Call Liam at work about the opera
 

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After the scene with Bennett in the restaurant, I think if Sophia had to take her panties off, she used the same "technique". She'd sit on the chair behind the desk and take off her panties. EoS. After that, she'd have Aiden lick them, eat them, .... whatever.

"Accident" is the key word and hence Sophia's position. What is "accident"? A wide movement and the skirt rises.
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Skirt over butt, and in Sophie's position, a tight skirt, once past the 90º angle, you don't know where it stops.

And we got this
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that's a photoshop. here the real one.

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ancienregimele

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He started to add more and more story based contend in the game, than after few months the game already started to look like never ending story.
Adding more characters & side jobs was probably easier than sticking with a limited number of regular linear plots & taking them forward. It's a known cure for writer's block but it can get out of hand. I play a couple of other games, one of which has 8 characters. Updates for this have virtually stopped & fans are saying this might be because of too many characters!?! I forget the exact number but AWAM has over 70.
 

ancienregimele

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I recently started this game after hearing a lot. I loved it in the beginning. Really, I couldn't stop devouring the story, I like the slowburn and the renders are really good. Then everything railed off with Aiden's tasks. I can't imagine the fmc feeling some lust while being blackmailed by threatening of violence toward her family or find it sexy... And you can't say no without closing the door to Dylan's scenes.
And by the top of it, add the casino debt and mafia popping out of nowhere.
Why does the story had to turn dark suddenly? A normal housewife going down, little by little (the "slowburn") and then bam, very bad things happen and you don't have control anymore (even you as the player). It feel like a real weak plot as excuse to show "more" skin than before.
I understand your POV, though I have a different issue with AWAM, in the sense that I feel the same but about the incest, which so far has 3 or 4 branches. I've been able to avoid it at times & actively seek ways around it. I've also taken the option to hook Dylan up with a girlfriend, so that he's now more like a normal teenager. As has been said there'll soon be the option to end the tasks & dispense with Aiden, perhaps literally (but probably nothing so drastic).

Whenever I can't avoid incest I just ignore it & play on, as, after all, these are only pixel people. That being said, blackmail is a standard feature of corruption games & what has happened in AWAM thus far has been the mildest, most vanilla variety, I've ever encountered in a VN/game of this genre. It's not so much dark but more like '5 shades of grey'.
 

ancienregimele

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Maybe I compare the softness of the game subconsciously with the game "Family Friends And Strangers".
I also play FF&S, although I havn't played the latest update yet. Both games are slow burns but in very different ways. AWAM is more about erotic situations than it is about sex. It's genuine erotica in modern suburbia & none the worse for that. What got me into playing it was the possibility that, at last, (after the best part of 20 years of amazing developments), we were going to see an adult erotic story, written by a grown-up, realised through the medium of 3D renders. During the last 4 years, I have, by turns, been both pleasantly surprised & extremely disappointed, on those scores.

What seems to be an inescapable fact, however, is that there will be no actual sexual intercourse for a very long time.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Adding more characters & side jobs was probably easier than sticking with a limited number of regular linear plots & taking them forward. It's a known cure for writer's block but it can get out of hand. I play a couple of other games, one of which has 8 characters. Updates for this have virtually stopped & fans are saying this might be because of too many characters!?! I forget the exact number but AWAM has over 70.
Whether it's 70 characters or 8, I think it's really important for writers to write something fun. I look at some of the games that are story-first and struggle with development cycles, and I think a large reason for their struggles are the plodding nature of the story. I think there's a slavish devotion to a strictly linear structure, event 1- event 2- event 3, so on. I imagine the thinking is something like:

"Before I show this really fun scene, I need to have a couple scenes of buildup, and they need to be spread out. So I won't get to the fun scene for three more updates."

And I get it, you don't want to rush anything. But I think there's an underappreciated problem with this approach: it can get boring. At some point "slow and deliberate" becomes "plodding". I'm all for believable stories, I've spent too much time in this thread discussing story structure to throw all of that away, but stories also need to be entertaining. If a writer is struggling with writers block, and can't make the story progress, it could be (in part) because they're bored. But they're so committed to the plodding nature of the story that they can't see the problem.

"Ok, so the LI needs three scenes with the MC before they can make out. And then another two scenes before they can see a boob. Then that will be some conflict, and until that's settled there won't be any more sexual situations. That should probably take four scenes. Then we get a release when they finally have oral sex but get interrupted before they finish."

I'm just making that scenario up, but it seems very plausible to me. On paper such a structure may make sense. It's slow, shows progression and escalation, and keeps the audience on the edge of their seat. But, in reality, it means there are nine scenes of buildup and only three minor with payoff, all of which takes years to develop. Not only does this get frustrating for the audience, but I'm sure it gets tiresome for the writer.

"Brevity is the soul of wit" isn't always true, but it wouldn't hurt for more writers to keep it in mind. Sometimes it's good to prioritize fun and entertainment over slavish devotion to linear story progression. None of us here want every scene to be filled with sex, that would ruin the game. But scenes need to be fun and punchy, we don't need filler just because it helps set up a scene down the road in two years. We need stories that build momentum and effectively ride that momentum. We need more good stories that aren't afraid to be punchy and pull the trigger on great content. Too many good devs are struggling to complete their games and I think that's because they have voted themselves with their own storytelling.
 
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