Ultimately, Patreon is a poor decision by him at this stage. He could save himself significant headaches / worry by just moving everything to Subscribestar. He can easily put a message out to his patrons that he will move everything to site X over next 3 months. It would simplify his problems. Bane71 has pointed this out in the past.Well he's using DoL as a facade. I'd assume that whoever on Patreon is in charge for checking their creators content would only see a download for DoL, unless they were to subscribe and get to see the external download link to an illegal version of his project (this last part here is kinda questionable, I'd think that they could find out about it in more ways other than via subscription, lol). L&P would surely be in for a treatment if they found out about this. Wouldn't be surprised if he'd face a lawsuit resulting in a juicy fine, if not worse.
Edit: All it really takes is an upset patron reporting L&P's wrongdoings. Weird enough that Patreon didn't find out about it themselves yet. One would think that they'd have the tools to easily do that.
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What a luxury ass!
I'll gladly leave you to discuss architecture, granite, concrete and structures in 4 dimensions.
We don't know why Logan left Elli on the beach. He could also have been called to his mother or a friend because they were sick. Only Sophia's prejudice and concern for her daughter's safety made Sophia think that way about Logan again. (I don't think Logan is a good guy either but we don't know that for sure yet).
Whether there will be another meeting with Logan and Tylor I can't say. Since Sophia doesn't like Logan, but gives Elli the freedom to decide for herself if she wants to make a permanent connection with Logan, the chances are rather bad for another evening with the two men.
But if it comes to it, it will be Elli who gives her mother a "free pass" for this evening by saying what happens here stays between us and Liam / Dad will never know. She makes herself an accomplice and lowers the moral hurdles for extramarital sex because Sophia knows that there is someone who lies for her.
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I did state the reasons why Logan is actually a scumbag in my next message.
As for Ellie supporting her mother to cheat on her own father. If that happens I would have lost all respect for Ellie's character and she would be the most depraved character of the game with no moral standards. All she has shown have extremely loose moral standards but this is going way beyond.
Her father is no scumbag, he is a good man who loves his family. Who loves his wife. Who is working for them day and night. Whose Money is able to provide for their lifestyle. After all this her trying to encourage her mother to cheat is absolutely bizarre. It's like she has no remorse for her own Dad.
In short if she does this her character in it's entirety would be nothing short of an actual absolute Bitch.
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Fairly sure that the Ellie route branches means that at some point on or after playable day 16 she's going to need to decide between Logan, Sam (if you're playing his route) or Jules.Maybe Ellie can have both?
Much like how Dylan isn't going to have a harem.
And while Ellie has taken an interest in Sophia not having sex with Liam, that is only so she can take advantage of Sophia being horny for her own benefit.
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Maybe Elle knows that “6 minute man” Liam can’t give her mom an orgasm, so she will try instead or find suitable stud for her
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Except that Ellie already knows Sophia prefers oral anyway. The only one Ellie has so far convinced Sophia to try is Jules, since it's not really cheating.
So if Ellie is going to convince anyone to help Sophia get off, it's Jules. Then she'll guilt Sophia into letting her do it, like she did for groping Sophia's boobs.
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Are you saying that this guy
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is sharing games under a patreon payment that aren't done by him?He already has 103 patrons and the only tier is $10, so, he is earning around $1000 per month.
In this case you should check what other devs are being pirated by this guy and told them to report him, because L&P is violating patreon rules and he could be banned after that.
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So, that guy isn't only pirating devs but it seems that fan artists too. He added other scenes to the game, unless he made them by himself which I doubt it.
I would like to know how coherent it can be or if everything seems absurd, after mixing original scenes with fake ones.
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I would like to know how coherent it can be or if everything seems absurd, after mixing original scenes with fake ones.
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I thought this splitting the events into singular small updates was supposed to speed things up?
Let's wait and see. Just as the 3 women dismissed the night in the bar as a secret and non-existent for everyone else, so it would go with Logan and Tyler. Just because we don't want to see our favorite characters that way doesn't mean L&P can't write it that way. And why shouldn't Elli do it that way - Elli has no problem with her mother making out with Jules, she has no problem with incest sex with her mother. Just because some here believe that sex between women isn't cheating on a spouse, it's nothing else. So far you can dismiss this as a game but we know where the road will go. And we will decide for this way. So don't come to me with moral concerns - that the poor sweet girl would then be an absolute slut. Elli will have one or more quite explicit sexual situation with her mother before. And Elli will be the hunter!
I don't want this to be seen as an attack against anyone. I just think these are the hard facts as I see them.
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Not really.
Even with 10 updates for a playable day,he will need at least 1 months for each update
+1 more month for some recreation and unexpected problems.
Also some updates despite including only 1 event,could take 2-3 or more months to be done.
Considering that, given the current pace, we are heading towards the first decade of February for 0.155 (best case scenario), the second update may be affected by that pause he said he's gonna take in March (assuming that that post is still valid). Ok, he didn't actually say that he's taking time off, for how long or what he needs to do, but if you say until March i don't have plans, usually it means that there is something happening after. If so, it is very likely that even the 2nd update cannot be used to assess the new development cycle.I need to be careful what I say, some of your guys actually pay attention.
But seriously, I did say that and I stand by it. However, we need to be careful not to constantly move the goal posts. In a vacuum it is tempting to cut this update some slack and pin our hopes on the second update. But we have to be mindful that this latest news does not exist in a vacuum and that we have two years of declining production before we got to this latest update. If update 2 of 10 also runs into problems we can't/shouldn't blindly accept the reasons.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that my line in the sand is update 2/10. If that update runs into problems I think I may be ready to write the game off.
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Basically what you are saying about Ellie makes no sense from a logical point of view. Why do your own Dad like this. If he was an asshole like Neil I would understand.
That night could be dismissed because firstly it was just a kiss with her own sister for a bet.
Now I wouldn't say lesbian isn't cheating. It is less serious however. In Ellie's case
she is pursuing her mother not with a direct intent of having sex with her. It is her curiosity about her lesbian side that is pushing her. Similarly for Sophia. None of them see it as cheating. Last scene was basically teaching her daughter.
However fucking random strangers because you're drunk or horny or just because you want to, well that is the very definition of cheating and there is no other way of looking at that.
I still was upset with Ellie when she didn't reprimand her mother for letting Tyler grope her like that. I don't say she has to report to Liam but she could atleast tell her mother to have a little restraint. She maybe on her mother's side but does not mean encouraging her mother to have sex with other men.
That's just stupid. In today's time there are enough toys and equipments available for a woman to sexually satisfy herself. No sex in itself cannot be a valid reason for cheating on your spouse. There has to be some level of affection or desire for someone else.
We have a woman in this story who does not have a man but isn't fucking every man left and right . Alyssa. She has her sybian and she is very satisfied.
Sophia thinks to herself that getting a sybian will hurt Liam but seriously what will hurt Liam more, his wife fucking other men behind his back or using a rubber dick to satisfy herself.
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Bypassing Patreon's TOS is against Patreon's TOS. Moreover, hosting content for your patrons off-site is explicitly stated as against Patreon's TOS. When I had my own Patreon page I was surprised by all the rules, and the very first creator I thought of was L&P. Patreon has taken down other creators for less than what L&P is doing. He knows that he's subverting their rules.
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Delay, obfuscate and confuse. A very familiar bureaucratic process. My concerns grow linearly as this incompetence of production grows linearly.