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Sabertooth__

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It's not in focus on the DOF but it still looks a bit off, overdone
Somehow that error doesn't make sense to me. Is it really an error or something related to the asset in question. Everything around it, close to it, is perfectly fine. No haziness.
 

Talcum Powder

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Somehow that error doesn't make sense to me. Is it really an error or something related to the asset in question. Everything around it, close to it, is perfectly fine. No haziness.
I agree, it is a very odd effect. You can actually see through the double image - as if there was a copy/paste of the legs to a new layer that was offset or maybe scaled up a bit, and then the pasted layer was set to overlay or multiply mode in Photoshop. It's hard to imagine it's related to the prop itself.
 
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Talcum Powder

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what is the release date
L&P will certainly be done with programming/translation early or middle of next week. The release will apparently be delayed because there's a "new special feature" or "add on" that relies on a "helper" he has recruited. , and that isn't expected to be I don't think it will be ready for another 2-3 weeks. So probably mid-March.
 
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L&P's Father-in-Law

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Somehow that error doesn't make sense to me. Is it really an error or something related to the asset in question. Everything around it, close to it, is perfectly fine. No haziness.
Perfectly fine is not how I would describe this render and any render I've seen from this update.
I don't know which direction L&P's artstyle is going for, but these last renders are not close to the quality of the previous updates.

Everything looks cell shaded, almost like he's doing 20% of the render and then using a denoiser to clean it up, which gives this cartoonish look.
That could explain exactly why we see this effect under the table.
Either that or we're looking at the work of a different artist.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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L&P will certainly be done with programming/translation early or middle of next week. The release will apparently be delayed because there's a "new special feature" or "add on" that relies on a "helper" he has recruited, and that isn't expected to be ready for another 2-3 weeks. So probably mid-March.
Has L&P said this?
 

GingerSweetGirl

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OUF! I hadn't noticed the issue with the legs of the table until I saw the discussion about the quality of the image. Normally I think you guys are way too harsh on minor mistakes, and I'm definitely a "good enough is good enough" kind of girl, but whatever is going on with those legs is not good enough.
 

lockerxx

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L&P is so nice he answer my 2 question: about save games and Milf Claire (marie´s mother):
1-You need to download part 1 from my website again or a special patch. At the end of part 1 (0.150) you will be asked to save your game. Then in Part 2 the game will ask you for that save
2 There will be something but not much. And much later
 

globsis

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I did want to ask, do any of the artists or infact anyone, know why the legs of the table are kinda hazy. Everything else is properly rendered, why only the legs of the table look like that.

Anyone's got any idea.
I don't think this is an LP error. Very often he is called a perfectionist. This is either a drawing of the "assistant" - or the LP intended it that way. It looks like 3d without 3d glasses.
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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Perfectly fine is not how I would describe this render and any render I've seen from this update.
I don't know which direction L&P's artstyle is going for, but these last renders are not close to the quality of the previous updates.

Everything looks cell shaded, almost like he's doing 20% of the render and then using a denoiser to clean it up, which gives this cartoonish look.
That could explain exactly why we see this effect under the table.
Either that or we're looking at the work of a different artist.
Unless he was trying something to achieve this process.

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or it could have been a mistake.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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Unless he was trying something to achieve this process.

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or it could have been a mistake.
No, that's not it. That effect is very easy to obtain and L&P has done it plenty of times, if you go on fan art you'll see artists there achieving the same effect. The issue with the legs of that asset isn't that. My first impression is that it's DOF + denoiser used to soon and it's the denoiser messing it up.
Since there isn't much info for the denoiser to work with in the beggining of the render and the DOF effect takes time to render correctly, there were only a few shades of color and it gave that effect.

That is my amateur guess
 
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Atton563

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L&P is so nice he answer my 2 question: about save games and Milf Claire (marie´s mother):
1-You need to download part 1 from my website again or a special patch. At the end of part 1 (0.150) you will be asked to save your game. Then in Part 2 the game will ask you for that save
2 There will be something but not much. And much later
Is that something between Sophia, Patrica or Dylan?
 

Bane71

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Perfectly fine is not how I would describe this render and any render I've seen from this update.
I don't know which direction L&P's artstyle is going for, but these last renders are not close to the quality of the previous updates.

Everything looks cell shaded, almost like he's doing 20% of the render and then using a denoiser to clean it up, which gives this cartoonish look.
That could explain exactly why we see this effect under the table.
Either that or we're looking at the work of a different artist.
Although we have seen few renderings from the expected update, I also got the impression that the quality of the work is somewhat worse and it differs from the previous L&P standards.
We will probably be able to give a more accurate assessment after the update, but the fact that not only I, but also other forum participants express the same opinion gives grounds to assume that the quality has changed, but not for the better.
I really hope this is a deceptive impression.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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Although we have seen few renderings from the expected update, I also got the impression that the quality of the work is somewhat worse and it differs from the previous L&P standards.
We will probably be able to give a more accurate assessment after the update, but the fact that not only I, but also other forum participants express the same opinion gives grounds to assume that the quality has changed, but not for the better.
I really hope this is a deceptive impression.
I'll be fair, I don't mind the quality coming down but if the premise for the updates to take so much time is "Quality is great so it takes longer to do" then if the quality comes down, this update should have been faster by the same logic.

This "special dev" might just be a substitute artist and if you take into account how many "game developers" got delayed in the past 6 months with bs reasons and the rumours that there are only a few artists providing art for most of the games then plenty of things start to make sense, specially when you have someone that is suposedly in control of every aspect of his VN but that can't give any correct prediction for each update for years now.
 

Kakato

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Feb 25, 2017
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Has anybody else noticed how big the chair looks that Sophia is sitting in?It looks really wide.
Mind you that could be the camera angle or the lighting
LOL. Please, man, don't do that. Don't give some guys here a reason to create new theories. After the handbag and blur saga, we might see 10 pages of theories based on the Chair Saga. hahahaha. :HideThePain:
 
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