NewTricks

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Folks, some games to check and support while waiting. I refer to these as indie games because of not enough support.
Of Birds and Bees
Oopsy Daisy
Lisa
Heart Problems
My Pleasure- Its supported, but not near enough

Check them out
Oopsy Daisy is the shit. Lisa is way too good to be an RPGM game. But of Birds and Bees will give you more nightmares than boners.
 

Sabertooth__

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Dont you have some LP defending to do?
Can you show me where I have Praised L&P as Developer. He is a good artist sure but definitely not good with development pace. But that doesn't mean I will agree with whatever accusations you put on a man. Calling names and telling where people should spend money and where not.

Folks, some games to check and support while waiting. I refer to these as indie games because of not enough support.
Of Birds and Bees
Oopsy Daisy
Lisa
Heart Problems
My Pleasure- Its supported, but not near enough

Check them out
Okay now I see what you are doing.

First you rebuke people for supporting devs you don't like and then you immediately suggest the Devs they should support.

Seriously, you could have timed this better and posted this message after 2-3 days. Posting them back to back literally shows what you're doing.
 
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Jonsnuu

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If Sophia gets a sex scene with another character all seismologists around the world will be puzzled. It will be called the release of blue balls event
 
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ashitanojoe

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Have you played Become a Rock Star? A game with great renders too. The dev makes basically the same amount of renders than L&P in 4 months. Why almost nobody treat him as lazy or scammer like they do here with L&P? Because his game isn't a slow burn, that game is pretty straight forward: a male than can fuck with every girl he meets. The story it's pretty basic and the dialogs nothing exceptional. He is going to release the last update of the game soon and the game in total will have less than 10.000 renders. Guess what, L&P already made more than 10.000 renders for this game. If L&P would have done something like BARS, he already have finished the game and the people in general wouldn't accuse him of being a scammer, milker or lazy.

As I have said, L&P according to the quality delivered is in the standard pace. It's his game, his story, that it's not, but that's the essence of this game, the slow burn. Taking all of this into account, this game will be more than 3 times, or even 4 times, larger than a standard story like BARS, meaning that the only way possible to finish this game in a reasonable time is hiring at least 3 more artists to make the renders together with L&P. My advice, as I said before, it's that L&P should make the renders of the most important lewd scenes and deliver the rest to other artists.

We will not convince him to hire 3 artists more if we insult him or accuse him of being lazy or a milker, we should try to convince him talking in a decent way and explaining the necessity of this. And saying that even if the other artists don't match exactly his quality, we don't care, it's the lewd scenes, that he makes, that matters the most. This story shouldn't be done by a single person, it's larger than the rest.
 

ancienregimele

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Why almost nobody treat him as lazy or scammer like they do here with L&P? Because his game isn't a slow burn, that game is pretty straight forward: a male than can fuck with every girl he meets.
I can't comment on Become a Rock Star because I've never played it but I don't believe the criticisms of L&P are mainly centred on the lack of sex. What happens is that a lot of posts, consisting of one or two lines questioning if/why/when etc., relating to sex with someone other than Liam denote that the quick-fap brigade are not happy & well....that's tough. Anyone wanting to see pixel people in sexual union, blissful or otherwise, are spoiled for choice on F95. I've never called L&P a milker, or thrown personal insults around, (nor will I) & the slow burn is one of the main reasons I've stuck with this VN for 4 years.

I've played fuckfest games & the stories are nowhere near as good as AWAM, when it is at its' best & L&P is on form. Yes, of course, we all want to see some extra-marital sex & sooner would be preferable to later but the lack of it doesn't deter most long-term fans, IMO.

What draws criticism is the pacing of the update schedule, lack of meaningful communication, proliferation of side stories, unnecessary characters, duplicate stories, broken promises & the way in which any measure, devised ostensibly to speed things up, always has exactly the opposite effect. Such issues would attract criticism to any game & they do. It's not just L&P that receives it. Fans of AWAM tend to be more involved than average for this type of game, even passionate about it at times. That could be seen as a form of tribute to the Dev's creativity & render quality. This, combined with the size of this thread gives a certain impression.

All of this could be altered for the better with a few judicious changes but those who've been here long enough are aware that this won't happen. What that means is that fans are conscious of the fact that they'll probably never see the end of the story, which leads to frustration & so on until the criticism comes full circle.

Then there are the never-ending criticisms along the lines of, 'what are you doing here?', 'why don't you make your own game?', 'what gives pirates the right to say anything?' These fans seem to miss the point but their comments don't exactly assist in reducing toxicity levels.

I've said numerous times that most of those who've stuck with the game want to see it & the Dev succeed & flourish but the current situation doesn't bode well for the long-term.
 

Sabertooth__

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All of this could be altered for the better with a few judicious changes but those who've been here long enough are aware that this won't happen. What that means is that fans are conscious of the fact that they'll probably never see the end of the story, which leads to frustration & so on until the criticism comes full circle.
Just want to ask is you are Frustrated with something how many days will you keep expressing your frustration. 5 days, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months, for some here it has become a daily routine they are willing to carry on for years.

Is a single porn game that significant part of ones life that they have to express frustration for months on end. Why is moving on to another game not a plausible option for these people.

They say that many games are delivering similiar art, many Devs are very organized, they don't lie, none of the scenes of Awam come off as original to many here, they are fast, they communicate better, give better teasers, don't milk, Basically L&P is the worst and quite a number of Devs are the epitome of professional and work ethics and Quality. Still when you look at these people's posts, they are almost 90% on this thread only, and that to only complaining.

So can you explain this mentality, because honestly if something is frustrating even little children give up on it after sometime, unlike here.
 
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