VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Sabertooth__]

I wasn't active with this game for some time.
Do we have Dylan actions with mom now? That's what i was at least hoping for.

I still like the game but i really would like incest part (female/male).

After this update there are only Dylan events in this day.
1 event involving Dylan Sophia Claire Marie
2 events with Dylan Sophia alone
1 event with Dylan Ellie Christine
1 event with Dylan Emma.

On the next Playable Day as well ther are 3 Dylan Sophia events.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Man, what a dick “For all the impatient people” nice way to rip your subscribers jackass, there paying you to see Sophia have sex with other characters besides Liam
he says it’s only 4 playable days away for her first Herero sex scene, which for him is about 8-10 years in irl
Yeah your right we’re too fucking impatient

Apparantly since he has told when the sex scenes will happen, that is 4-8 years in the future, why would you pay him now. Don't support him for 4-8 years. So the point of people paying him for the sex scenes now even though he has said not to expect one for the upcoming years makes no sense.

 

[coffeeaddicted]

After this update there are only Dylan events in this day.
1 event involving Dylan Sophia Claire Marie
2 events with Dylan Sophia alone
1 event with Dylan Ellie Christine
1 event with Dylan Emma.

On the next Playable Day as well ther are 3 Dylan Sophia events.

Referring to your quote below (next). So it will take years? I think he got the buildup right but if sex happens in years. Mm... That wasn't serious with 4 years or so. Right?

 

[Alley_Cat]

So I hear that Patreon will no longer charge at the start of the month, but on calendar days like Subscribestar. So I'm curious to see if the 1st of the month dips will still continue, and if we'll ever see any evidence of the membership churn that's been theorised about his patrons.

I'm guessing that if the dips continue, would imply that memberships are pretty much consistent, but if they smooth out would indicate that members are leaving, and new ones coming in as they discover the game.

Referring to your quote below (next). So it will take years? I think he got the buildup right but if sex happens in years. Mm... That wasn't serious with 4 years or so. Right?

That's an optimistic estimate. At the current rate of progress, the game could easily take 3 - 4 decades to complete.

 

[coffeeaddicted]

So I hear that Patreon will no longer charge at the start of the month, but on calendar days like Subscribestar. So I'm curious to see if the 1st of the month dips will still continue, and if we'll ever see any evidence of the membership churn that's been theorised about his patrons.

I'm guessing that if the dips continue, would imply that memberships are pretty much consistent, but if they smooth out would indicate that members are leaving, and new ones coming in as they discover the game.

That's an optimistic estimate. At the current rate of progress, the game could easily take 3 - 4 decades to complete.

And i thought that it was a joke.
That's not good news.

It's basically an erotic novella at this point. Which isn't a bad thing but on this board you kind of expect sex.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Referring to your quote below (next). So it will take years? I think he got the buildup right but if sex happens in years. Mm... That wasn't serious with 4 years or so. Right?

3-4 years for the first Lesbian sex scene on PD 15 which still does not guarantee that it will be with Sophia. And if you ask me that is the day with highest chance of involving Sophia in a sex scene. If that is missed then the Playable Day 16 scene which will take another year, so around 5-6 years we might at most have a blowjob scene with Sophia.

 

[palmtrees89]

Referring to your quote below (next). So it will take years? I think he got the buildup right but if sex happens in years. Mm... That wasn't serious with 4 years or so. Right?

If you're talking about sex scenes with Sophia and Dylan specifically, that will most likely happen towards the end of the game. I would say around PD (Playable Day) 25 the earliest as it's pretty much the absolute state of Sophia's corruption, and she's lightyears away from reaching that point. Getting there could easily take 20 years, and who are we kidding, there is no way that this game will still be worked on in 20 years.. not even 10 years.

It's also the holy grail for fans of incest on the hetero route which, by the way, is also why I have a hard time believing that we'll see a lesbian sex scene with Sophia and her sister on PD15 during the ranch event. L&P is going to hold back on that for as long as possible, because in his mind the game will become boring for the player once Sophia's had sex with someone other than her husband.

Call me crazy, but I think incest requires a way more twisted and corrupted mind than simply cheating on your partner.

 

[Alley_Cat]

If you're talking about sex scenes with Sophia and Dylan specifically, that will most likely happen towards the end of the game. I would say around PD (Playable Day) 25 the earliest as it's pretty much the absolute state of Sophia's corruption, and she's lightyears away from reaching that point. Getting there could easily take 20 years, and who are we kidding, there is no way that this game will still be worked on in 20 years.. not even 10 years.

It's also the holy grail for fans of incest on the hetero route, which by the way, is also why I have a hard time believing that we'll see a lesbian sex scene with Sophia and her sister on PD15 during the ranch event. L&P is going to hold back on that for as long as possible, because in his mind the game will become boring for the player once Sophia's had sex with someone other than her husband.

Call me crazy, but I think incest requires a way more twisted and corrupted mind than simply cheating on your partner.

It really depends on what you consider "sex" as to what we might expect for the lesbian sex scenes. My assumed progression for the next Ellie events is (now that we've seen Ellie jill herself off) to see Sophia jill herself and finally have an orgasm on the Filthy route, then possibly Sophia start touching Ellie.

But it wouldn't surprise me that the watershed event that starts things getting interesting on the Filthy route (and the reason I'm not expecting anything interesting at all this playable day) is Patricia questioning if Sophia even knows how to orgasm. A scream at the top of your lungs orgasm. And with the two being out in the middle of nowhere, that might be the push Sophia needs to relax and start enjoying herself. And doing things like cheating on her partner. But it starts with the character in the game Sophia has known and trusted the longest.

And with respect to the incest, L&P has already shown that "between us girls", it's not seen as perhaps as taboo as most might consider it. Since there's no consanguinity, the normal taboos aren't quite as applicable. Like with adultery, since by it's original definition only applies if the wife sleeps with another man (still cheating though).

 

[palmtrees89]

And with respect to the incest, L&P has already shown that "between us girls", it's not seen as perhaps as taboo as most might consider it. Since there's no consanguinity, the normal taboos aren't quite as applicable. Like with adultery, since by it's original definition only applies if the wife sleeps with another man (still cheating though).

Yeah, I'd totally agree that the point you're making here is the only somewhat reasonable way to explain how Sophia could have intercourse with her sister, I just don't see Sophia going there on PD15 considering her current state of mind, internal monologues and overall progression in the story with her sister or anyone for that matter, really. I guess the big problem is that L&P gave himself only 30 ingame days, making it pretty much impossible to turn this into a believable story. I guess at some point he has to just fast forward things, believable or not.

Regarding your question as to what I'd consider to be lesbian sex, well, for hetero scenes that's pretty obvious. On the lesbian route, I'm thinking of penetration with fingers, oral, scissoring...Yeah, I'd say that'd be considered lesbian sex. I don't expect Patricia to whip out a strap-on dildo for Sophia's first incestuous lesbian sex scene. Then again...It's Patricia we're talking about.

I'm not entirely ruling lesbian sex with Sophia on PD15 out, I just don't believe that L&P will make it happen as it would require alot of progress on the corruption front within the next 1,5 PD's, imo. But yeah, I guess the "between us girls" argument could totally work out. Atleast I'm hoping for your sake that it does. I myself am not that excited about the lesbian scenes anyway.

Edit: Oh, and not to forget that I strongly believe in L&P's plans to postpone sex scenes with Sophia for as long as possible for various reasons, but you know my stance on that topic.

 

[poser002]

Am i doing something wrong? Part two keeps saying to be continued after about 5 quick text box's. Get to a coffe shop and wont move along. Is the save file not uploading correctly or something?

 

[Adolfo]

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[Alley_Cat]

Am i doing something wrong? Part two keeps saying to be continued after about 5 quick text box's. Get to a coffe shop and wont move along. Is the save file not uploading correctly or something?

I believe for some people it's 7 renders for Part 2, not 5. But if you're not doing the content for a particular update, in this case the 2nd side job, a single render or two in an update is entirely reasonable.

I haven't bothered downloading the last two updates just because I don't do the 2nd side job, or any of the Dylan route, so there's really no point. Only reason I downloaded the v.160 update was curiosity about what Sophia would get up to for those not doing Aiden's tasks.

Not going to bother downloading the next update with Sam either. Next update with anything interesting for my playthrough wont be until the next morning.

 

[Deleted member 4922995]

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[coffeeaddicted]

Sabertooth__ palmtrees89

People seem even with these obstacles very and highly invested. Who knows when it happens. The first time when i played it i was amazed. It was an arousing experience.
Though it stopped for me at the beach part with Dylan and Mom in the cabin.

As for the filthy route, in my mind this guy Aiden was there. He is the enabler for that route. No matter how much you press "filthy" in the choice you need him to make it actually work.
There was also the prison scene but that was a dream part if i remember correctly.

Anyway, i will check from time to time to see if it's worth to continue playing.

Ah, i forgot. There was also the teacher as he invited her to a dinner. A man of questionable qualities. So far the best scenes i remember still were the music lessons with Sam and the show model or bikini event.

 

[armion82]

After this update there are only Dylan events in this day.
1 event involving Dylan Sophia Claire Marie
2 events with Dylan Sophia alone
1 event with Dylan Ellie Christine
1 event with Dylan Emma.

On the next Playable Day as well ther are 3 Dylan Sophia events.

Probably after this day we will have a clue for one of the hetero sex scene on PD16.
We will have event for each of the 3 possible girls.
Marie
Christine
Emma
Whoever get most progress is likely the prime candidate for the sex scene with Dylan on PD16.

 

[Wolfman567654]

I have played both parts of A Wife And Mother and I agree with everybody. The game has amazing graphics the MC is gorgeous the story is solid and the interactions are believable real and the thing that is a major pain is all this build up and nothing no sex at all . I have emailed and asked the creator why and was today that his vision was a lot of teasing, hints, build up before sex. The creator feels that having the MC having sex now would make her a slut like other game creators have been doing. When I suggested adding sex to the next update to bring the Interaction between the MC and the boys she is teaching to where most want it to go. I was told I could go play other porn sex games if that was how I thought. The creator does not seem to want or understand that to keep players coming back during the major drag of weeks and months between updates sex needs to be included or the game will lose player who final say its not worth playing anymor

 

[jonnybravo11]

I have played both parts of A Wife And Mother and I agree with everybody. The game has amazing graphics the MC is gorgeous the story is solid and the interactions are believable real and the thing that is a major pain is all this build up and nothing no sex at all . I have emailed and asked the creator why and was today that his vision was a lot of teasing, hints, build up before sex. The creator feels that having the MC having sex now would make her a slut like other game creators have been doing. When I suggested adding sex to the next update to bring the Interaction between the MC and the boys she is teaching to where most want it to go. I was told I could go play other porn sex games if that was how I thought. The creator does not seem to want or understand that to keep players coming back during the major drag of weeks and months between updates sex needs to be included or the game will lose player who final say its not worth playing anymor

Actually game has gathered enough mass and now its too big to fail. LP will have patrons for this game for years. Even if few leave now there will be more people who will join the patron group.
People will stop supporting this game when they see no hope. But recent changes like 1 scene per update has been successful in keeping patrons satisfied. Also he is working continuously although slowly and communicating with patrons. He knows higher tier patrons matter most and are more loyal to him.
So if this game stops coming with updates the sole reason will be LP's choice not patrons or pirates.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I have played both parts of A Wife And Mother and I agree with everybody. The game has amazing graphics the MC is gorgeous the story is solid and the interactions are believable real and the thing that is a major pain is all this build up and nothing no sex at all . I have emailed and asked the creator why and was today that his vision was a lot of teasing, hints, build up before sex. The creator feels that having the MC having sex now would make her a slut like other game creators have been doing. When I suggested adding sex to the next update to bring the Interaction between the MC and the boys she is teaching to where most want it to go. I was told I could go play other porn sex games if that was how I thought. The creator does not seem to want or understand that to keep players coming back during the major drag of weeks and months between updates sex needs to be included or the game will lose player who final say its not worth playing anymor

I have been following the game for over 2 years now. There are also people on the thread of this game for 4 years. So no, it is not essential to have sex scenes to bring people back. I for one couldn't care less about a sex scene as long as the scenes are well thought out, written, presented, have great renders and are erotic.

 

[crabboid]

I have played both parts of A Wife And Mother and I agree with everybody. The game has amazing graphics the MC is gorgeous the story is solid and the interactions are believable real and the thing that is a major pain is all this build up and nothing no sex at all . I have emailed and asked the creator why and was today that his vision was a lot of teasing, hints, build up before sex. The creator feels that having the MC having sex now would make her a slut like other game creators have been doing. When I suggested adding sex to the next update to bring the Interaction between the MC and the boys she is teaching to where most want it to go. I was told I could go play other porn sex games if that was how I thought. The creator does not seem to want or understand that to keep players coming back during the major drag of weeks and months between updates sex needs to be included or the game will lose player who final say its not worth playing anymor

You should have responded that he should go write a romance novel, if that’s the kind of story he’s trying to tell.

Personally, I think that L&P is deluded, and believes that his work is a bigger deal than it actually is, but that’s just me. It doesn’t help that he has a group of orbiting sycophants who reinforce this viewpoint, so he’s got little incentive to change.

It’s like he thinks that he’s writing the next great novel, when he’s actually making a boner game and in denial about it, and nobody has the heart to tell him the truth. No, L&P, a teacher being tricked into letting herself get groped by a bunch of home schooled kids is not good storytelling.

I’m not sweating it too hard at this point. I’m really only invested for Sam scenes, so after this next update comes and goes, I’m going back into ignore mode for another 6-12 months, when I’ll check back in on this thread again, and ask if there’s been any action yet. I just want to tell anyone who’s here “for the story” to go read an actual book. They’re way better for that, and you don’t have to wait around for them.

Bring on the facepalms from said sycophants.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]