Hey L&P, pls try to complete the current update before a nuclear war onset 
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Hahaha, my post was deleted for such a statement.
But I see it the same way you do. Only now there was sex at school, at the neighbor's too, and there was more going on in the pool. I think L&P can't go back and need to bring more and that might shock some fanatics. And the story will be completely different. But who can please everyone? I take it easy and look forward to the future. It's just a game.
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So...what you're saying...is that he's milking it.
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I do find it telling that Ellie has so far had the most progress with Sophia, but mysteriously seems to disappear after PD22. So it seems entirely possible that once she has sex with Sophia, we only see her a few more times before she disappears.
And that's also the prevailing theory as to why Dylan will be the last with Sophia, and as late in the game as possible. That it will be the "climax" of the Filthy route, so after he gets his chance, it's pretty much game over.
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That is probably true. Though i think that even if she would have sex, there could be progress in different directions. It's not like, she has sex with a neighbor and the game ends because she went filthy.
What is probably more true is that for most the fun ended since they want to be teased. Which is fine though why are we talking about sex then?
I see the Suday event at the ranch as a multi-stage series of events, where Patricia and the horse-back riding will get Sophia warmed up, followed by other activities that will get Sophia relaxed and then excited, leading to a climactic evening.Yeah, I'd totally agree that the point you're making here is the only somewhat reasonable way to explain how Sophia could have intercourse with her sister, I just don't see Sophia going there on PD15 considering her current state of mind, internal monologues and overall progression in the story with her sister or anyone for that matter, really. I guess the big problem is that L&P gave himself only 30 ingame days, making it pretty much impossible to turn this into a believable story. I guess at some point he has to just fast forward things, believable or not.
Regarding your question as to what I'd consider to be lesbian sex, well, for hetero scenes that's pretty obvious. On the lesbian route, I'm thinking of penetration with fingers, oral, scissoring...Yeah, I'd say that'd be considered lesbian sex. I don't expect Patricia to whip out a strap-on dildo for Sophia's first incestuous lesbian sex scene. Then again...It's Patricia we're talking about.
I'm not entirely ruling lesbian sex with Sophia on PD15 out, I just don't believe that L&P will make it happen as it would require alot of progress on the corruption front within the next 1,5 PD's, imo. But yeah, I guess the "between us girls" argument could totally work out. Atleast I'm hoping for your sake that it does. I myself am not that excited about the lesbian scenes anyway.
Edit: Oh, and not to forget that I strongly believe in L&P's plans to postpone sex scenes with Sophia for as long as possible for various reasons, but you know my stance on that topic.
For example:
Patricia teases Sophia on the ride there, telling her how good she looks while stroking her thigh while Patricia drives (and Patricia has already gotten Zoe involved in the plan to get Sophia to 'loosen up' a bit).
They meet Zoe at the Ranch and ride out to a pond for lunch and impromptu swimming.
During the ride, there is a stretch of ground where the ladies pick up the pace and the bouncing of Sophia on the saddle gets her excited.
When they get to the lake, they lay out a blanket and have lunch along with several bottles of wine.
Patricia asks Sophia how she is feeling after her first real horseback riding in years and Sophia responds that her butt is a bit sore but she is fine.
After lunch and a bottle of wine, Patricia and Zoe strip to go skinny dipping as they have the pond all to themselves. They persuade Sophia to strip to her underwear and swim with them.
When they get out of the water, they talk while having another bottle of wine.
They decide to take in some sun. Patricia puts sunscreen on first Zoe, then she spends more time on Sophia, getting Sophia to remove her bra to dry (hey - it's only us girls, right...)
Patricia makes a point of using the sunscreen to justify giving Sophia a massage on her back, including the sides of her breasts and Sophia, relaxed by the wine and the sun decides to let Patricia go further with the lotion when Patricia strays and lotions all of her breasts playing with Sophia's nipples periodically. She backs off before Sophia builds up the will to say stop and shifts her attack.
Patricia gives Sophia a foot massage with the lotion, taking her time with Sophia's feet (Probably a homage here to anyone that likes feet).
She then shifts to Sophia's calves and Sophia lets her move her legs apart so Patricia can move between them to 'better apply the sunscreen' (Sophia is getting excited but, with the wine and the sun, decides that this is still fine).
Patricia massages Sohpia's thighs, then changes position so one knee is barely touching Sophia's crotch and Patricia is straddling Sophia's leg, so she can 'put sunscreen' on Sophia's ass.
During this time, Zoe appears to have fallen asleep, not responding to Patricia's questions and Sophia lets herself fall into the sensation of Patricia's massage with the sunscreen lotion.
Patricia, realizing that there are no objections from Sophia so far, decides to massage her ass while shifting her knee further into Sophia's crotch, gently rocking it against Sophia's mound.
She can feel Sophia's breathing change, feeling her excitement leak through her panties and wet Patricia's knee.
Just as Sophia is ready to let go, she hears a buzzing and sees a bee, causing her to get up suddenly, pushing Patricia off her in her panic to avoid getting stung.
With the spell broken, the ladies decide to dress and head back but Zoe mentions that she sees something wrong with Patricia's horse. She bends to examine the horse's leg and decides that no one should ride that horse back just in case.
Zoe suggests that Patricia ride with Sophia since Sophia has the larger horse, and she climbs up behind Sophia for the ride back to the barn.
Patricia asks Sophia to shift forward on the saddle so that Patricia won't fall off, which ends up pushing Sophia's crotch against the saddle horn.
The ride back sees Patricia holding onto Sophia with her arms wrapped around and just under Sophia's breasts, which she periodically plays with under the guise of shifting her arms as they ride back to the barn.
When Sophia comments on this, Patricia pushes Sophia against the saddle horn harder, saying she needs to be further forward on the saddle so she will not fall off.
The end result is that an excited Sophia gets to choose to force Patricia further back on the saddle or she lets the rubbing from the saddle and the more obvious groping from Patricia take her to orgasm (Zoe is riding in the lead, as arranged by Patricia).
When they reach the barn, Zoe gives both women a big hug and Patricia gives Zoe a wink and a smile, letting her know that she appreciated Zoe's help with her Sister.
Patricia and Sophia talk while they drive home, and Patricia asks if she enjoyed meeting Zoe and having a relaxing day. Sophia admits that she had a nice time, and it was great to get away for the day.
When Patricia drops Sophia off, she gives Sophia a kiss on the lips good night and winks at her, saying she Knows how good a time Sophia had, closing with 'Love you Sis!' then driving off.
I think this kind of scenario would fit the timeline, work with Sophia's gradual path accepting lesbian affection, and still reflect her reluctance to actively return the pleasure a woman is giving her.
Thoughts?
That's only going to be true for a minority IMO. There are a lot of porn games out there with continuous sex & sexual encounters that are still popular, so much so that the bigger danger is that the repetition becomes boring, (which it sometimes does). That's the point at which good writing & compelling characters become even more important in maintaining interest.
L&P has a huge cast of characters & many have the potential for sex. Some are just "extras" judging by what we've seen so far but there are plenty of clues to keep fans guessing & speculating about who will 'go the distance.'
IMO this issue generally is one of the reasons AWAM was better as an erotic VN, rather than the very slow but ordinary porn game it has evolved into. Wham bam style porn is everywhere but good stories, able to hold the readers & with a certain amount of realism, are rarer. AWAM occupied this niche for a while.
Whatever happens & assuming we're still around when sex occurs, I think we at least know that this Dev won't exactly overdo it. How many of the then current audience stick with the story will depend on the quality of delivery, both in writing & rendering.
I came to f95 several years ago just to play porn games for free, : ) and I have played a lot of what it has to offer. My favourites are the ones who have story beyond a gimnastic display with bimbos, the stories that are like any fiction which make me believe for a while "what if?" (Coleridge rules) and then sex with the sweet taste of fulfillment of temptation and lust (with a fap, probably... you can even make an award based on how many faps they get from the horny audience). At the beginning of the story of AWAM I was hoping to have a slow burn but as many others (I assume) after (how many) years I become impatient with the teasing with no end. It is true in part that the tension could die after it is resolved, but also that you cannot mantain the tension forever. A huge cast of characters? true, but if you dont use them they are all "extras". Not really round characters in literary terms, so I must disagree with the quoted, but just regular porn characters: a mother who let his kid make her erotic photos (???), who let her daughter gropes her (???), and so on and so far. So, yup, fantasy clichés for horny people, but not deep and complex or rich characters, just the regular prototypes of the genre. That said, I would like to have a wank seeing Dylan follow the corruption path of the Penthouse Pet that he has as a mother. Nice looking lady, but, perhaps because I am a miopic or because I am old and pervy from old and has seen a lot in this forum and in real life, is not just the looks what I am looking for.
Sorry, have to say this, against my own rule (logical) "you don't look a gift horse in the mouth". I havent paid a single coin so I cannot complain. I can only stop giving my attention.
It's been a choice of the Dev to leave most characters looking a bit 2-dimensional, as it was to turn an erotic VN, with massive potential, which for a while it was in danger of fulfilling, into just another porn game. It may be that the existing would-be consumers of erotica, as opposed to straightforward porn, are too small a number &/or not big spenders in the current 3D gaming world. If games keep on catering for the same basic audience as at present, (who presumably have plenty of cash to spend), this won't change anytime soon, if at all.
It's hard not to agree that the behaviour of many main characters has followed standard porn expectations. This needn't have been the case, e.g. Sophia could have had a bikini show modelling for Liam's company & snapped by a persuasive professional photographer. Dylan & Sam fans could have been accommodated by having them secretly watching the photoshoot, perhaps taking their own pictures. This event could have logically fed into more. There are other examples that it would be pointless to describe because it's too late for even a glimpse of the once aimed-for realism.
I do contend, however, that some of the lesser characters, some of whom had the beginnings of mini back-stories, e.g. Ivan, Bennett, could have been developed further if required. I havn't paid a penny for this either & have played it up until the last 2 updates, (which I didn't bother with), for 5 years almost. It looks like it could be time to stop.
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why are you hanging noodles on your ears?! a sex scene with Sofia will not be very soon if they do not sew sex scenes with her husband .. then she did not spread her legs in front of anyone .. tolka or she or her vso tolka and do that tease
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More than likely the slower rate of the update is due to the animation. I hope that means at least a bj but probably a hj at best.
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Slower rate possible reasons:-
- He can't help himself and is upgrading renders from start of the game
- Sam Sophia scene is taking place somewhere else like Tree House so he is making model for it
- Animations - might be HJ at most but Sam is romantic so it would be out of character for him to demand such form Sophia
- Scene is actually bigger than anticipated by LP
- LP is doing work in relaxed manner
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Boy, he sure knows how to get the fans hyped up for the next update. If we keep paying him, he might show us some ankle in a few years.
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Don't forget they are suppose also to do the animations for Dylan update.
Or at least that was the idea-to finish the animations couple of updates in advance.
Obviously that is not the case with Sam update.
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