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Alley_Cat

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This is true, but Emma is still a student at the same school where Sophia teaches, and there should be no shortage of opportunities for them to meet again. For example, we know that Sophia, in addition to literature and biology, also teaches sports and that in a few days from now the school's gym should reopen. Now, I don't know exactly what High School practices are in this regard, but I don't think that lessons are held for only one class at a time (and probably also with distinction of students' gender). This might be a good opportunity to meet Emma again.
If Emma was to participate in classes, then why get rid of her in the first place?

I'm really not buying this idea that there might still be a lesbian path for her. L&P just doesn't care enough to make it happen. He's neglecting the 2nd most popular character, so why would he care about Emma?
 
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Radoslaw Wolf

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If Emma was to participate in classes, then why get rid of her in the first place?

I'm really not buying this idea that there might still be a lesbian path for her. L&P just doesn't care enough to make it happen. He's neglecting the 2nd most popular route, so why would he care about Emma?
Not that the story is governed by any sort of logic...
 

Alley_Cat

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Not that the story is governed by any sort of logic...
I don't think it's that bad. I don't think the Ellie route is entirely illogical. So far it's been a story about a popular girl playing a role, and doing what she thinks will keep her popular. Then discovering that she doesn't need to, and following her heart is far more rewarding. And Sophia is helping her through it.

That her sluttiness is actually a facade for her insecurity in not actually even had an orgasm before makes some of her behaviour make sense. Like how heavy-handed she is in manipulating the Ellie/Julia event, considering her role model before in how to get sex from a woman was meathead sportsball players.

The next proper Ellie event I think is going to make or break the route, especially since we will have had two bonus storyline events in the meantime. I'm beginning to suspect the bonus storyline is incompatible with the Ellie route, so it will be interesting to see if Ellie keeps up her hatred of Dylan. I've been wanting to know what he did since I started playing - I was hoping the bonus storyline would cover it.
 

Radoslaw Wolf

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I don't think it's that bad. I don't think the Ellie route is entirely illogical. So far it's been a story about a popular girl playing a role, and doing what she thinks will keep her popular. Then discovering that she doesn't need to, and following her heart is far more rewarding. And Sophia is helping her through it.

That her sluttiness is actually a facade for her insecurity in not actually even had an orgasm before makes some of her behaviour make sense. Like how heavy-handed she is in manipulating the Ellie/Julia event, considering her role model before in how to get sex from a woman was meathead sportsball players.

The next proper Ellie event I think is going to make or break the route, especially since we will have had two bonus storyline events in the meantime. I'm beginning to suspect the bonus storyline is incompatible with the Ellie route, so it will be interesting to see if Ellie keeps up her hatred of Dylan. I've been wanting to know what he did since I started playing - I was hoping the bonus storyline would cover it.
I know, I'm bitter and biased. And allergic to liars.
 
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lockerxx

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Except that it's been confirmed that there will be a change in location.

Plus there's at least one animation (hence the 6th bar).
a new location?fuck
If Emma was to participate in classes, then why get rid of her in the first place?

I'm really not buying this idea that there might still be a lesbian path for her. L&P just doesn't care enough to make it happen. He's neglecting the 2nd most popular character, so why would he care about Emma?
yes Emma is having a Lesbian path with Sophie.Maybe in the next event we got an idea how is Happeing :unsure:
 

Talcum Powder

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He is going to finish it when our sun turns into a black hole…
Too bad, then it is not enough to live long to see the end of the story. Our sun has too little mass for a black hole.
Yeah, our sun will become a white dwarf. This is a Dylan update. Wait, did I just fall for some elaborate prank?
 

ancienregimele

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One character very important to me is Emma. Hooking Dylan & her up stopped him lusting after Sophia, (so far). You see, I don't dislike Dylan, I just prefer him when he isn't obsessed with wanting to penetrate the woman who gave birth to him.

Also, I notice that the penny is beginning to drop, as fans recognise that AWAM is going to take over another 30 years to finish, at the current rate of development. I'd write to the Dev myself but he has no interest in what I think. Perhaps some Patrons could start asking relevant questions....
 

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Save me and forgive me.

By "Change in location" are we saying it's a new location we haven't been before, or the update will take place in two different locations like the house and restaurant?
 
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The version of the future event is outlined in the final part of What's next in the latest issue of analytics from xxxorro.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-180-lust-passion.5944/post-10066681
What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easiest guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.
I'll add my 2 cents: Dylan may suggest using a romantic evening in a restaurant (and after it) like a "rehearsal" of a date with your girlfriend. In the role of a girlfriend, of course, Sofia. Needless to say, for educational purposes. And she will perform her role with maximum diligence, responsibility and credibility. Just like with Sam.
Oh yes! Even though as you say, it is a typical cliche in incest games, I'll take it.
 

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Another scum from LP, at first he released a game day in for half a year, then everything rested on the fact that he did it once every 9 months in order to solve this problem, and reduce the waiting time from update to update, he decides to release the day in parts (by events), and on output, we get that the production time of the game day has increased from 9 months to 12+ - awesome optimization! Yes, I do not argue his talent has increased and his art is very good, but time is running out!
More and more new programs appear - in a year or two his art will no longer be amazing and that he will want to improve it again? And we will get that the time to create a game day will grow to two years!? Previously, everyone was waiting and counting the scales for filling in percentages of completed work, and it was only 4 - now there are 6 of them! 6 Carl! The time to develop the next event has already increased! LP I'm officially stating that this is SCUM of your fans!
The guy has been burned out over this game a few years now and refuses to let anyone help. I really cant explain. I supported this game the 1st two years, but dropped it after that. He will continue to drop small updates to keep the money flowing. This could have really been a monster project$$ for him.
 

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One character very important to me is Emma. Hooking Dylan & her up stopped him lusting after Sophia, (so far). You see, I don't dislike Dylan, I just prefer him when he isn't obsessed with wanting to penetrate the woman who gave birth to him.

Also, I notice that the penny is beginning to drop, as fans recognise that AWAM is going to take over another 30 years to finish, at the current rate of development. I'd write to the Dev myself but he has no interest in what I think. Perhaps some Patrons could start asking relevant questions....
Dude, Weve been asking him this for years, Where have you been.
 
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Let me finish with a cliffhanger question. :)
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?:unsure:
For real no harem? but i keep imagine that the game will end in 2050 with Sophia, Dylan, Ellie and Patricia in a open relationship!! then what suppouse to keep me going till 2050 :(
 

ancienregimele

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The guy has been burned out over this game a few years now and refuses to let anyone help. I really cant explain. I supported this game the 1st two years, but dropped it after that. He will continue to drop small updates to keep the money flowing. This could have really been a monster project$$ for him.
It could have been the great erotic 3d VN of the first third of the 21st century. Instead it's just an ultra-slow porn game.
 

tannerjd2007

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i'm seriously confused... i dont even get what people are rating... good or bad lol... for me not a dam thing has changed since the last time i tried the game witch was like version 1.60 or something... game just ends in the same spot nothing new lol.
 

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The weird thing with Emma, for me, is that she was telegraphed as part of Sophia's lesbian route. Taking her clothes shopping, stripping down to underwear with her and Ellie, Sophia continuing to encourage her to embrace her looks during the car ride, the kiss and flirty commentary between the two during Aiden's first task. Then Emma just transfers class without reason given, stops by to say hi to Sophia randomly and Sophia gets the idea to pawn Emma off on Dylan, and Emma says "Yes, I've always liked Dylan, thank you for hooking me up with him. Felt like complete whiplash to me.

Perhaps there is still something there, as Emma still seems kind of flirty when talking about Evie after Aiden's second task. But it felt like that route was closed when Emma admitted to wanting Dylan. Seems more like it's now a three way option for Dylan's storyline, rather than exclusive Emma x Sophia thing.

While I'm on the subject of telegraphing though. Smoking and tattoos have both been telegraphed as something Sophia is opposed to early on in the game. Then a reminder for her stance on smoking comes from Christine and Ellie, although her anger with Sophia seems to stem more from lying than the actual smoking. Her stance on tattoos also seems to soften as she admires Alyssa's after tanning with Zac, again when she finds out Ellie got a few, and again with Nathalie. In both cases of smoking and tattoos it feels to me like that's going to be a decision down the line. If this ends up being the case, ideally, I would like to see Patricia and Ellie be the influencer here. Though I suppose there is also a world in which Aiden could possibly force it as a task. Anyone else feeling this a possibility?

This might be cliche, but perhaps Sophia, Ellie, and Patricia go out to the club again. Patricia gets excited by Ellie's tattoos and wants one of her own; Sophia is hesitant at first, but after a few drinks would consider going with Patricia to watch her get a tattoo. Maybe a few more, or if her filthy points are high enough, she would be willing to get one with Patricia. We also know that Patricia smokes, and Ellie has at least taken a drag; Patricia lights one up outside the club, or after getting the tattoo, without thinking. Ellie asks if she can try, and again Sophia puts up a resistence, but can cave here as well, also trying a cig.
 

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I suspect that the main problem of L&P is the burnout effect. It is the fact that he is remastering the first part that tells me about it. Of course, I may be wrong, but such a slow development of the game, such a long wait for updates, to some extent confirm my fears.
His 3D skills are at a high level, he is also engaged in programming, but writing is not just a set of knowledge. In order to write interesting, and for this game it is necessary to write exciting, the author needs inspiration. To maintain the level of involvement in the plot and inspiration at such a high level that it is still interesting to a large number of people, this is an extremely difficult task.
Those people who understand the problems faced by L&P and express some support and understanding to him here on the forum, are also subjected to very rude and inappropriate insults. They are called paid L&P lawyers, bastards, idiots and other nonsense.
To be honest, it's strange to watch this for so many years. This tells me that the nature of man does not change, we are the same as we were several centuries ago. Only the external manifestations change, but the essence remains the same.

i'm seriously confused... i dont even get what people are rating... good or bad lol... for me not a dam thing has changed since the last time i tried the game witch was like version 1.60 or something... game just ends in the same spot nothing new lol.
After you finished, the second part of the game appeared. Download it and you will understand what has changed.
 

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One character very important to me is Emma. Hooking Dylan & her up stopped him lusting after Sophia, (so far). You see, I don't dislike Dylan, I just prefer him when he isn't obsessed with wanting to penetrate the woman who gave birth to him.
Oh my goodness what games are here :ROFLMAO:
 
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