- May 23, 2017
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I look forward to the next two updates. I think after both we will be able to estimate how serious L&P is about the game, or if he is delay Dylan progress again.
I'm not so sure about the animations. Honestly, I think that AWAM could do well without them. It would be much more important to finally increase the speed of development, so that this game has a realistic chance to be finished at some point. What AWAM would need here is a minimum quadrupling of the current speed. At the moment, everything is just going much too slowly.
Animations are good.. but not so good to move forward the update release.
There are games with much better animations.
And in the animations the characters are not even that similar to the rendered images
So I think L&P should push the game forward .. then if anything he can integrate the animations, but not slowing down the development of the game .. which is already extenuatingly slow.
Personally I don't intend to support a game that I really like in terms of plot and images .. but whose development time seems to me just unsustainable.
There are games with much better animations.
And in the animations the characters are not even that similar to the rendered images
So I think L&P should push the game forward .. then if anything he can integrate the animations, but not slowing down the development of the game .. which is already extenuatingly slow.
Personally I don't intend to support a game that I really like in terms of plot and images .. but whose development time seems to me just unsustainable.
- Jan 25, 2021
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This is the problem.
At some point in Part 1, the game felt stopped.
And on the last day of Part 1, when the developer solved several characters, I saw it and felt that the developer had changed the plan.
Of course, it may be my illusion, but slow working speed, small volume and long term always test consumer patience.
And in terms of the story, there's nothing different from Part 1.
For now, part 2 is meaningless than dividing the capacity of part 1 and this is the first time I've played such a game.
Usually, developers divide parts for new stories or divide parts to inform the story's rapid progress.
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LP will cut the event at the point where anyone can speculate about the continuation but no one will predict the actual event… Hold your horses till first Sunday of August (2nd part release…)
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Hola "Mr Boss" Sophia (Dirty Route) te envía saludos.
Hello "Mr Boss" Sophia (Dirty Route) says hello.
Sophia no se unirá a Liam y su jefe para ver el partido de fútbol, se bañará, con o sin Dylan
Sophia will not join Liam and his boss to watch the football game, she will take a bath, with or without Dylan
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that way it would have been hotter
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As an act of curiosity, I asked a question to the one of the co-developers of a really well-done animated series, why can't they produce content faster as the hardware improves over the course of time. He's honest reply right below in the link or, for the lazy one's, I put it after the link.
That's an answer from someone, who knows more about game or video development, in their case, than 99% of F95 users. There's even a render farm mentioning for its adepts.
https://f95zone.to/threads/big-johnson-collection-2023-03-04-yourbigjohnson.73596/post-10231503
It’s a bit much to explain, but rendering either uses resources from your CPU (not a great idea) or your GPU. So depending on how old it is, just a basic camera shot, depending on the amount of details you set it for, can go from minutes to hours.
Can’t speak for SFM, but Blender has a variety of settings that can make just poses take quite a while to pop out. And animation is like that, but tenfold, as it’s now moving pictures so to speak.
You could outsource it to a render farm, but as I’ve seen from other artists like Slayyed.coom, they are not always reliable and can sometimes screw up the work. And as mentioned, the rendering process takes a ton of resources, so unless ya got another computer, you won’t be doing much else on the rendering one.
If you want something fast, it’ll be short and low quality. You want something good, it’ll take time. A good comparison would be Opiumud. They put out lengthy content on a regular basis, but they suffer from really bad audio sync and the overall quality isn’t great either.
I used to be like those people that asked for the little things to add or why can’t it be faster. And then when I got my new computer, I started learning Blender myself and my eyes were opened. This shit ain’t easy.
I wish it were as simple as point A to point B. Maybe we’ll get some fancy VR tech in the future that lets us pose them like mannequins xD. But until you’re moving every piece of the bodies, making sure everything lines, avoiding clipping as much as possible, and hoping to god you don’t see something during the render you missed, or that something doesn’t line up right, or in the worst case, the program crashed and you hadn’t saved in a while because things like SFM are so old, auto save isn’t a thing.
So…yeah. Be appreciative of what you’re getting for free anyway, and don’t stress the artist
That's an answer from someone, who knows more about game or video development, in their case, than 99% of F95 users. There's even a render farm mentioning for its adepts.
https://f95zone.to/threads/big-johnson-collection-2023-03-04-yourbigjohnson.73596/post-10231503
It’s a bit much to explain, but rendering either uses resources from your CPU (not a great idea) or your GPU. So depending on how old it is, just a basic camera shot, depending on the amount of details you set it for, can go from minutes to hours.
Can’t speak for SFM, but Blender has a variety of settings that can make just poses take quite a while to pop out. And animation is like that, but tenfold, as it’s now moving pictures so to speak.
You could outsource it to a render farm, but as I’ve seen from other artists like Slayyed.coom, they are not always reliable and can sometimes screw up the work. And as mentioned, the rendering process takes a ton of resources, so unless ya got another computer, you won’t be doing much else on the rendering one.
If you want something fast, it’ll be short and low quality. You want something good, it’ll take time. A good comparison would be Opiumud. They put out lengthy content on a regular basis, but they suffer from really bad audio sync and the overall quality isn’t great either.
I used to be like those people that asked for the little things to add or why can’t it be faster. And then when I got my new computer, I started learning Blender myself and my eyes were opened. This shit ain’t easy.
I wish it were as simple as point A to point B. Maybe we’ll get some fancy VR tech in the future that lets us pose them like mannequins xD. But until you’re moving every piece of the bodies, making sure everything lines, avoiding clipping as much as possible, and hoping to god you don’t see something during the render you missed, or that something doesn’t line up right, or in the worst case, the program crashed and you hadn’t saved in a while because things like SFM are so old, auto save isn’t a thing.
So…yeah. Be appreciative of what you’re getting for free anyway, and don’t stress the artist
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I generally agree with you, I don't have much interest in incest myself but it is not hard to pretend there step related, so that is what I do. However, it has been well established in this thread that there is just too much going on, too many characters and the wait time for "follow-ups" with this character and that character is far too long, it hurts AWAM.
It certainly seems like L&P has lost his way with AWAM and is scrambling to keep people happy, I think L&P has made the mistake a number of devs have done, including myself. That is we have all these ideas and we cram them all into one story, instead of saving some for another story.
You're right, this story is called A Wife and A Mother, it should be about Dylan, Ellie, and Liam + Sophia, but I think Alley Cat and others are pointing out that there is some unnecessary stuff going on as well, this drags AWAM down and extends the wait time. The stuff with Dylan watching them shower at the gym and scenes with Dylan and Ellie wasn't needed. All that stuff really should've been skipped and the shower scene at the gym was hot, but it really shouldn't have been added and neither should any of the scenes between Dylan and Ellie, which don't include Sophia.
It would be fine if it served a purpose but following Dylan's interaction with others and the whole girlfriend route for Dylan just bogs down a game called A Wife and Mother, it's not called My Mom or a Girlfriend.
I don't think L&P should cut corners with the story between Dylan and Ellie. Just as I think it was important to give Dylan the part in the shower room scene. All this is part of the main story and important, because it give the player some knowledge of secrets that are still unknown to Sophia. Especially for you as a game developer, the strength of such elements for storytelling should be clear. It can make the story deep. That's also the reason why I think the events between Dylan and Amber are so important. Imagine the event without the pseudo sex between Dylan and Amber. That would be worth much less.
Honestly, it is clear to me that AWAM should be cut down not indispensable, otherwise this game has no chance of ever being finished. The only question is which elements are really unnecessary. From my point of view, these are mainly the side jobs and at least a large part of the gangster stories. Maybe L&P could even think about to cut one of the lesbian stories (beside the on connected to Ellie). What I think would also save a lot of time is if L&P finally stopped introducing new characters and complex new locations and kill the idea of animations.
- Nov 1, 2017
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as I said in my last post, the VN is called A Wife and A Mother, not a My mom or a girlfriend, this is Sophia's story, not Dylan's.
It's what most of us have been saying. I think where I differ from Alley_Cat, and perhaps he can chime in if I'm in the wrong, is that I don't really care that we're getting all this Dylan side content, I just want it to be spread more evenly across the rest of the family. In my opinion Dylan, basically from PD6 onward has been the largest influence on Sophia's life and the direction the story has gone. Either his story needs trimmed down; or Ellie, Liam, and Patricia need to have their roles expanded. Because they are family too, not side characters to Dylan and Sophia.
Well, I guess we'll have to disagree on that one. I can't imagine what a story between Dylan and Ellie would look like, told solely from Sophia's perspective. Even more, I think that L&P should definitely not do without this story, because it, at the latest as soon as Sophia gets to know about it, allows for incredibly interesting story twists.