GingerSweetGirl

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Aug 23, 2020
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Many of us have. I think for me the beginning of the end was PD11 and Emma relegated to the Dylan route. All of a sudden she went from having an interest in Sophia to thinking Dylan is a "cutie". Where the beginning of the end will be for others will obviously be different.

But then "overnight" is quite apt in that everything this PD appears to be fan service. I'm just hoping it gets back on track for the Ellie route on PD14.
I'd have to sit back and think about when the beginning of the end happened. But I'd say that while the writing decline in PD12, it has fallen off a cliff in PD13. In PD12 the poor dialog was worth discussing because it was still good enough to be worthy of discussion. But now it's an absolute trainwreck and not even worth discussing.
 

Alley_Cat

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Jul 20, 2019
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I'd have to sit back and think about when the beginning of the end happened. But I'd say that while the writing decline in PD12, it has fallen off a cliff in PD13. In PD12 the poor dialog was worth discussing because it was still good enough to be worthy of discussion. But now it's an absolute trainwreck and not even worth discussing.
I didn't find the writing in PD12 bad, but then I do skip about 75% of the available content.
 

ancienregimele

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yes once upon a time...... :LOL:

There are probably a thousand people who know everything better here. It's like in a football stadium, there are 50,000 referees and experts and they know everything better.

In the end it is L&P who had a very good idea for a project a few years ago and decided to start it. We all went with him and see for ourselves what that means. Let's face it, each of us would be in our head and our situation, would we do everything right and could we make it right for everyone and make everyone happy? It's damn difficult. I think he has a stubborn head and wanted too much, including money.

I want to be the last one to make him king or think everything's fine and I haven't given him any money yet. The game is just the way it is now, without fine lines, but with very good moments.

I would finish the game in two or three years, look back at what went wrong and start a new project with the whole new experience.

The man has a lot of potential.
He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.
 

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kimber700

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L&P, we need to see AWAM ends before we all gone. Pls hurry.
 

shataqa

Newbie
May 2, 2023
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Because Dylan is her son, incest is wrong, so she's uncomfortable.
After that incident she was worried about her relationship with Dylan.
part 2 Sophia may accept incest relationship with Dylan.
i dont understand many people : incest is wrong?! to fuck with 3 strangers just for fun cheating on the ones you love is good?!
especially if the game is about perversions ...
:unsure:
 

1879

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Dec 29, 2021
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He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.
He has potential, agreed. AWAM's true potential has been squandered, however, because of the Dev's choices. Regrettably, this isn't once upon a time (I sometimes wish it was) but real time. I never claim to know everything better than the author but with some things concerning erotica, perhaps he could stand to take note of suggestions, now & again, before he runs the project into the ground. Maybe he should read some classic porn/erotica & adapt the scenarios for his game. When it comes to football, I've been to enough matches, to have witnessed several occasions when the crowd got it right. Nobody sane expects perfection & L&P is given a lot of leeway by most fans but what's happening now resembles a hollow echo of what this project was & could still have been, with different decisions.

AWAM is a case of over-reach & as we know there'll only be one kind of change to the development, i.e. more slowing down, I would suggest that the game needs wrapping up ASAP. After 6 years, why not just let Dylan shag his mother, give the kids something to wank to & embark on the next game, 'What Dylan Did Next,' 'A Son & Brother,' or whatever? That way he could retain his virgin schoolboy audience & maintain a decent income stream. He might even become motivated again, as the possibilities are endless.

Of course, folks like me wouldn't be playing but it's been obvious for a while that there's no story left for many long-term fans, if they're not into m/s incest. I only stay with it out of curiousity & for the renders, which are still great. He could at least be in a position to produce above average teen porn, as opposed to the current slowest average teen porn still not abandoned.

I see it that he was either afraid that other helpers would ruin his game or that he was just too selfish.

I have no problem with incest in a game if it's just designed for that.
But with the character of Sophia I would never allow it, that ruins everything for me.

But with this update, he's sadly made his choice to be Dylan fans. I'm sure they're the ones who pay the most.

So for me: New game, new luck.
 

JohnX

New Member
Mar 6, 2019
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Last update with Dylan & Sofia in the bathtub was very hot - teasing in its perfection.

After that scene i would like to give an idea to the developers for a possible next event between mother and son:

Sofia & Dylan go for a swim in a bit deserted beach and Dylan convinces her to go topless wearing only a thong(since already saw her topless :D).

There will be some touching,sun cream,games on water etc and maybe Sofia will let Dylan jerkoff for the second time while she observes him doing that(first time was in the beach cabin).

Anyway,congrats with the game for Lust and passion and we are looking forward for more.
 

Cid Kagenō

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Dec 29, 2019
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i dont understand many people : incest is wrong?! to fuck with 3 strangers just for fun cheating on the ones you love is good?!
especially if the game is about perversions ...
:unsure:
And you think that most women cheat on their husbands to have sex with other men or their son?
You try to ask for sex with your family. Do you think it's easy?
Wait and see part 2 whether it's hot or not.
 
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Kai Andersen

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May 1, 2018
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But with this update, he's sadly made his choice to be Dylan fans.
1879, it looks like you forgot the very beginning of this game, or missed it. The game began with a Sophia-Dylan plot, many thought that this would be the core of the story. But over time, the author decided to turn Sophia into a dissolute woman, from here and the result. To write a good work with an incest theme, you have to go through it yourself, or borrow this knowledge from someone else, or have a very good imagination. Unfortunately Lust & Passion does not match any of these points.
 

XaGnard

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Aug 11, 2018
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And you think that most women cheat on their husbands to have sex with other men or their son?
You try to ask for sex with your family. Do you think it's easy?
Wait and see part 2 whether it's hot or not.
Please, let's not talk about realism in a porn game. ;) A good story is coherent in the rules set by the game itself, but does not have to make sense in the real world.

I at least think it's good that between Dylan and Sophia finally the action stated. After all, not much has even happened yet. Dylan has just completed 1st base.

All the side stories that Sophia has (like the side jobs, Aiden, or the other mobster stories), I find annoying, because they delay the development of the game. I am especially interested in Dylan, Ellie, Sam and their close family circles (e.g. Amber, Patrica, ..).
 
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