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In my response I was trying not to be so cruel :D:D. You have to consider tech improvements.
As for technical improvements: already today(!) people are buying , because they cannot distinguish them from the real ones. And you exclude such an option: for example, in 2 years some grandson of ChatGPT will finish everything and finish it in one day? Without L&P. If only there was no war...
 
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The arguments exchanged here for and against the Sophia/Dylan event are more or less all correct. Dylan is sometimes written as a manipulative (even lying) asshole and sometimes surprisingly sincere and direct.
Dylan desires his mother, this oedipal interest determines his actions.
At the conclusion of the Sophia/Dylan event Part 1, L&P has Dylan take a bold step. The open confession to his mother what he feels for her and what he wants from her. For an (insecure :unsure:) teenager of 17, that's a strong move.
Like his action when he took off his pants in the bathtub, he risks everything, but this time he wins. Sophia does not reject him, does not withdraw completely.
This last step reconciles me with his behavior of a Ferengi during the plot of part 1.
This story is in the making, we are thereby thrust into the role of editors, whether we want to admit it or not. I mention this to set the proper context for the next sentences.
Because even though L&P has Dylan make a bold move that suddenly makes him "grow," assuring his mother that nothing will happen that she doesn't want to happen, the "worry" remains that in the very next part, L&P will write Dylan's behavior again in such a way that you have to believe Dylan is again the one who betrayed his mother to Aiden.
I think that is the core of the whole discussion here.
How can you seduce someone already engaged without being manipulative? We are talking about a son seducing his mother which in real world is something non existing. A taboo story maybe is exciting in adult gaming but the incest cases between a mother and her children are practically criminal offenses of child abuse. About 2% of child abusing perpetrators are natural mothers.
 
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As for technical improvements: already today(!) people are buying erotic photos created by AI, because they cannot distinguish them from the real ones. And you exclude such an option: for example, in 2 years some grandson of ChatGPT will finish everything and finish it in one day? Without L&P. If only there was no war...
Heraclitus: War is the father of all things. Unfortunately...
 
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McZoy

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Excellent list but you have to add Oceanlabs work, JOHN, Timestamps and Ms Denvers. IMO game success mainly is based on an exciting story and not the renders quality. There are many talented people able to do great renders but very few to create a good story. Games like DIK or CoBD have very good quality but are really boring because they belong to the genre "A guy to fuck them all " without any significant twists.
 
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How do you not have any of Oceanlabs games in this list like “Summers gone” and “Where it all began” and didn’t see “John” listed either, there’s more that’s all I can think of right now
Oh, but I didn't make the list, I was responding to the list that someone else did. I actually was surprised that those games were not included.
 
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As for technical improvements: already today(!) people are buying , because they cannot distinguish them from the real ones. And you exclude such an option: for example, in 2 years some grandson of ChatGPT will finish everything and finish it in one day? Without L&P. If only there was no war...
But he wouldn’t make any money by finishing it in one day, he has to learn how to milk from his grandfather IMG_0430.gif
 
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Just narrow the focus of the game to Sam & Dylan seducing each other's mother and it would be a much better and tighter story.
 

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How can you seduce someone already engaged without being manipulative? We are talking about a son seducing his mother which in real world is something non existing. A taboo story maybe is exciting in adult gaming but the incest cases between a mother and her children are practically criminal offenses of child abuse. About 2% of child abusing perpetrators are natural mothers.
Shoulder shrug - No idea what you're getting at.
 

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Oh, but I didn't make the list, I was responding to the list that someone else did. I actually was surprised that those games were not included.
It doesn't look good.

You seem to be changing your tone. Initially, you praised the rendering of AWAM while criticizing other games that were being praised. You even went so far as to challenge others to list games that were better or comparable to AWAM's rendering level, and then proceeded to belittle those games when the list was presented. However, now you are speaking as if you acknowledge and appreciate other games.
 
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Please stay in my first line: How can you seduce someone already engaged without being manipulative?
You are right, I see it the same way. The word "seduction" already contains the basic idea of leading a person to something that he actually did not want.
Which means one uses to seduce, which limits one sets oneself, is left to the respective actor and one can argue about that.
I want to stop the discussion here, I have written in my posts before what I had to say and would only repeat myself, I do not want to be rude, "only I have shot my powder".
 
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Which teen who saw, and fondled, Sophia’s bare breasts, gave her the best critique of their look and feel? This is an enhancement of a previous post. I’ve included the five quotes from the previous post, plus three more – two from the teen girls, and one new experience from the recent release.

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Which teen who saw, and fondled, Sophia’s bare breasts, gave her the best critique of their look and feel? This is an enhancement of a previous post. I’ve included the five quotes from the previous post, plus three more – two from the teen girls, and one new experience from the recent release.

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You forgot Zac, he saw them and also grabbed her tit depending on what previous choices you took I guess.

Plus whatever Liam saw when he walking in on Sophia and Ellie fondling each other in the shower.
 

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I only want to know 2 things, he is already working on the next release and where is he the preview
He usually takes two weeks off from the release of the update, so I would guess somewhere around the 14th is when we might hear something from him, and the progress report reset, but it could be sooner or later. We will probably see a new preview, poll for something the members to vote on, etc... around that timeframe as well.
 
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You forgot Zac, he saw them and also grabbed her tit depending on what previous choices you took I guess.

Plus whatever Liam saw when he walking in on Sophia and Ellie fondling each other in the shower.
You could be right about Liam. I thought they were just kissing when he walked in, but I admit I didn’t double check. I didn’t forget Zac, who did indeed see Sophia’s naked mature breasts dangling in his face in the classroom, and he got in at least one squeeze over her braless blouse. But there was no conversation about it in class, and after class Sophia lied about it and put him in a bad light and in a defensive posture, so Zac emitted no opinion on her breasts’ look or feel for me to quote. Hopefully next time.
 
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