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Dan5k74

Active Member
Oct 6, 2017
619
3,841
The husband is made to look like a fool. His IQ is estimated to be 60
It's true, but in the good wife path Liam is living a dream life:
he has a great job, he makes a lot of money, he has kids who are growing up without causing him much trouble, and, most importantly, he has a wonderful wife who loves him and has such a high sex drive that she's willing to fulfill all his sexual fantasies (from swapping partners to having threesomes with some of her bisexual playmates).
 

karleston

Member
May 20, 2022
200
762
Facepalm from karleston, what a surprise. Time you came up with some proper comments or suggestions for AWAM of your own, or is it just a case of being easy to second guess &/or criticise the critics? Maybe you think everything is just great the way it is. Why not share your opinion....not about the critics, because we know what that is but about the game & the direction it's taking. Try coming up with an idea or two. Something original perhaps? Surely you've been here long enough now. Tell us why you think it's wonderful & people shouldn't comment, except to praise & express their unbridled joy, failing which, they should be silent. Do you think you'll feel the same in 40 years time? Are you one of L&P's virgin schoolboys?
I don't really care if people are saying good or bad things about this game, and i don't think it is an ideal situation or anything like that. But i think you must be a little simple minded to believe that continuously pointing out the game's flaws will improve the situation . You've been saying the same things for over a year. Did you see any changes? Absolutely NOT , so why are you even talking ? I already know the answer...

Let me tell you what's going to happen because you clearly have no idea.

AWAM will fail because of people like you. Not paying a dime to support but constantly criticizing and thus giving it a bad reputation. A bad reputation that in the long run will affect the dev's patreon numbers and he will end up closing the shop. And making a new game under a new name. And with his render skills and experience he will have zero trouble making even more than AWAM. But for Fans like us, we will be left with an unfinished game. Now if that's what you want, go ahead, be my guest.

Personally i don't even enjoy this game anymore because of the constant negativity that flows around it. And i am certain that it will fail sooner or later. And i will be glad if that happens, at least we can all move on. Sure it is the dev's fault but not only. Guys like you are working for it too.

He doesn't want to hire a team. So what ? When you go to a restaurant, do you ask to see the manager and tells him how to run his business ?

Now you know why i facepalm your posts.
 

tofhdns

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2021
1,714
4,105
I don't really care if people are saying good or bad things about this game

Personally i don't even enjoy this game anymore because of the constant negativity that flows around it.

Now you know why i facepalm your posts.
What you're saying is...

You're not playing this game anymore because of people's negative reviews and you're throwing a facepalm because you don't like someone else's negative reviews.

But you're saying that the reason you do is because you don't care about other people's evaluations.

Is that right?
 
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karleston

Member
May 20, 2022
200
762
What you're saying is...

You're not playing this game anymore because of people's negative reviews and you're throwing a facepalm because you don't like someone else's negative reviews.

But you're saying that the reason you do is because you don't care about other people's evaluations.

Is that right?
You should avoid logic. You are not made for it
 

666786

Newbie
Aug 16, 2020
65
42
Logical or not you guys are still playing and commenting about the game. There are no gray lines either you play it without any complaint or you don't and don't waste your time to comment as well if you don't and do not waste your time to check the comment and updates. It's that simple.
 

rAmSiMaL

Active Member
Sep 1, 2022
905
3,900
I don't really care if people are saying good or bad things about this game, and i don't think it is an ideal situation or anything like that. But i think you must be a little simple minded to believe that continuously pointing out the game's flaws will improve the situation . You've been saying the same things for over a year. Did you see any changes? Absolutely NOT , so why are you even talking ? I already know the answer...

Let me tell you what's going to happen because you clearly have no idea.

AWAM will fail because of people like you. Not paying a dime to support but constantly criticizing and thus giving it a bad reputation. A bad reputation that in the long run will affect the dev's patreon numbers and he will end up closing the shop. And making a new game under a new name. And with his render skills and experience he will have zero trouble making even more than AWAM. But for Fans like us, we will be left with an unfinished game. Now if that's what you want, go ahead, be my guest.

Personally i don't even enjoy this game anymore because of the constant negativity that flows around it. And i am certain that it will fail sooner or later. And i will be glad if that happens, at least we can all move on. Sure it is the dev's fault but not only. Guys like you are working for it too.

He doesn't want to hire a team. So what ? When you go to a restaurant, do you ask to see the manager and tells him how to run his business ?

Now you know why i facepalm your posts.
Currently AWAM has 1,866 patrons. If on average they are supporting LP with 4 euros each it means roughly 7,464. If that’s not enough support then what is it? I have been supporting him too (currently only during release month). When you go to a restaurant and they serve you shitty food you write a hell of a negative review and yes you comment on service, on luck of professionals engaged etc. etc… In the critics there are those bullshitting and there are those making constructive criticism. To me it’s a matter of paying attention. If you listen to people who try to improve your project (constructive criticism) then it will become better and there’s a win-win outcome. If you focus to those bullshitting or you ignore completely every kind of criticism then you are destined to fail…
 

karleston

Member
May 20, 2022
200
762
Currently AWAM has 1,866 patrons. If on average they are supporting LP with 4 euros each it means roughly 7,464. If that’s not enough support then what is it? I have been supporting him too (currently only during release month). When you go to a restaurant and they serve you shitty food you write a hell of a negative review and yes you comment on service, on luck of professionals engaged etc. etc… In the critics there are those bullshitting and there are those making constructive criticism. To me it’s a matter of paying attention. If you listen to people who try to improve your project (constructive criticism) then it will become better and there’s a win-win outcome. If you focus to those bullshitting or you ignore completely every kind of criticism then you are destined to fail…
You are not getting the point. If you go to a restaurant and they serve you bad food. Of course you have every right to write a bad review. But then YOU MOVE ON and look for something else. You don't come back the next day and keep saying the same sh*t do you ?
 

Alley_Cat

Devoted Member
Jul 20, 2019
9,005
17,576
You are not getting the point. If you go to a restaurant and they serve you bad food. Of course you have every right to write a bad review. But then YOU MOVE ON and look for something else. You don't come back the next day and keep saying the same sh*t do you ?
That depends. I've found that this place has some rather good Chef's Specials. The chef can make some really tasty things. Just chooses to make bland things like 10 other restaurants next along the street.

Most of my criticisms are more along the lines of milling about the Specials board to see if there are tasty meals being made. Looks like there wont be (at least for me) for about another year.
 

karleston

Member
May 20, 2022
200
762
That depends. I've found that this place has some rather good Chef's Specials. The chef can make some really tasty things. Just chooses to make bland things like 10 other restaurants next along the street.

Most of my criticisms are more along the lines of milling about the Specials board to see if there are tasty meals being made. Looks like there wont be (at least for me) for about another year.
Me too i want awam to be exactly the way i want it to be. Faster updates, shota free, no incest, more sex scenes. The problem is L&P don't think like i do. Or like you do. And since it is his game. the decision belongs to him. It is highly likely that he made these decisions based on his audience preferences.
 

Alley_Cat

Devoted Member
Jul 20, 2019
9,005
17,576
Me too i want awam to be exactly the way i want it to be. Faster updates, shota free, no incest, more sex scenes. The problem is L&P don't think like i do. Or like you do. And since it is his game. the decision belongs to him. It is highly likely that he made these decisions based on his audience preferences.
If he based his decisions on audience preferences, I would actually be getting more of the content that I like. Ellie is almost as popular as Dylan, yet only gets about half the number of events. And those events are about half the size.

Even on a day not focused on Dylan like PD14. Ellie gets one and a bit events, Dylan gets three. Last Ellie route event was about two years ago. Next time I actually download an update probably wont be for another year. I just hope it's worth the wait.

And for the most part, I do actually eat at other restaurants. Just updated my list of ones I like this morning. But advertising what those are is frowned upon as per Forum Rules.
 

PaxHadrian17

Engaged Member
Sep 8, 2020
2,249
10,922
I don't really care if people are saying good or bad things about this game, and i don't think it is an ideal situation or anything like that. But i think you must be a little simple minded to believe that continuously pointing out the game's flaws will improve the situation . You've been saying the same things for over a year. Did you see any changes? Absolutely NOT , so why are you even talking ? I already know the answer...

Let me tell you what's going to happen because you clearly have no idea.

AWAM will fail because of people like you. Not paying a dime to support but constantly criticizing and thus giving it a bad reputation. A bad reputation that in the long run will affect the dev's patreon numbers and he will end up closing the shop. And making a new game under a new name. And with his render skills and experience he will have zero trouble making even more than AWAM. But for Fans like us, we will be left with an unfinished game. Now if that's what you want, go ahead, be my guest.

Personally i don't even enjoy this game anymore because of the constant negativity that flows around it. And i am certain that it will fail sooner or later. And i will be glad if that happens, at least we can all move on. Sure it is the dev's fault but not only. Guys like you are working for it too.

He doesn't want to hire a team. So what ? When you go to a restaurant, do you ask to see the manager and tells him how to run his business ?

Now you know why i facepalm your posts.
Each of us gets to have an opinion and agree/disagree with others who don't feel as we do - that is all good.

Given that you are making sweeping statements about why AWAM will fail while you have been on F95 with this ID for < 1 year means that you have likely missed Many of the conversations we've had (the greater AWAM community here on F95) for years.

A few points for you to consider:

Many of us were AWAM supporters for a year or years - I certainly was.

Many of us provided feedback to L&P regarding our concerns about how long AWAM was taking to create and suggested ways to help speed development while Not cutting corners on quality.

We've been ignored and had posts deleted while watching L&P regularly move the goal posts for what he will do when certain levels of support are reached.

He has little to no credibility with many of us for the above reasons and others...

If AWAM fails - it is because L&P has decided that that he Will Not Adapt, no matter what happens; if enough of us stop supporting AWAM until he implements real change, then he can either adapt or abandon - the choice is Always in his court.

The reality is that AWAM is an AVN that is taking roughly 2 years RL/Playable Day - meaning that it will not be complete until some time > 2050 - That is ludicrous.

So, is you are looking for this community to be lemmings and just support AWAM blindly for another 30 + years, you will be sadly disappointed.

If you are a supporter of AWAM, then ask L&P how he is going to actually improve speed of development so that AWAM is done before - let's say - 2035.

Then ignore the commentary on this thread and focus just on what actions L&P takes.

Does he make the changes needed to have a reasonable chance to meet the new target completed by year?

Or

Does he give you variations of the same tired excuses that we have all heard before.

Let His actions determine if you continue to support him for the long term or not, and at what level.

This is your money, your time, and your choice - no one here has the right to expect you to stop supporting AWAM because of what We say - make your decision based on L&Ps actions.

Is he walking the talk?

Cheers and GL!
 
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