VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?

Definitely an interesting question. If I had the time to learn the necessary skills and develop such a story, I would probably start something of my own. However, that would certainly take a few months in the winter to even get to a beginner's level.

AWAM has some really good approaches, but L&P has unfortunately lost track of things in some respects. It would be important to throw away some of the side stories. No more mobster stories, an end to side jobs. Use the time to give Dylan, Ellie and Liam more room. This would strengthen the core of the story and reduce unnecessary distractions. More attention should also be paid to the Turners and the Neighbors, as they are able to add depth to the main story.

 

[1879]

yes, I'm sure we'll see what her pussy lips look like in this update.

that would be a quantum leap. but if Dylan is there? the labia would look like a bored rose

 

[kewlbigdan]

So he has rendered like... how many? 20 renders in the last 10 days? Absolutely amazing hard work.

We are hoping this is the result of having to set a new scene with all new assets and of course, moon lighting. Or could be alot of underwater camera action and it's making it hard to render.

Or he is on vaca till next month payment.

 

[DemonLad]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?

As a dev myself, I'm pretty sure my PC would crash.

Second, even though I am a fan of the game, I'm not the fan of "incest" storylines, so I would just keep things with Sam and keep Dylan and Ellie into the "basic" things only since it has already happened. Also, there are plenty of potential good paths taken down like the "Jail scenario" and "the teacher where she went on for a date", I would love to explore more paths on that.

Nathalie and Amber could have more involvement with Dylan, but that path is left out entirely sadly.

Ik most won't like the narrative I just mentioned but since I'm the imaginary director here, it would work.

 

[armion82]

If Aiden ever reappears, who can say? He's due back 6 years from now & counting, (originally it was 5 years but his last scenes were in Nov 2022 & things have slowed down some more). Aiden is a possible candidate for being written out because, despite his popularity, he's not related to Sophia, he's not a virgin, seems too old for his years & is no longer really required to tell Dylan's story, who is the real MC now & due for parity of appearances (& POVs?), with Sophia, according to the Dev. Add in the Steam preparation, the redrafting of the early part of the game & the inevitable "festival" issues creating more delays & 6 years seems too optimistic.

If he had any genuine importance he wouldn't be absent for so long. He's what employers call "redundant," as are many other sexually active characters who may not come back, such as Alyssa & Nathalie. It could be a trial run to see if enough people, i.e. Patrons, (who didn't have him ejected via the Don Morello solution), miss him & want him somewhere in AWAM. He would need to resume the smooth development of the tasks, needlessly & unrealistically interrupted at his gang HQ. IMO, he should seek to re-establish some kind of rapport by telling Sophia that the 'meeting' was indeed the 5th task, after all & move on to task 6.

Many games will have been started & finished or abandoned in the next 6 years. That's an AWAM weekend.

Last scene with Aiden was more than an year ago-may 2022.

 

[palmtrees89]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?

Since the game is not copyrighted (except for certain assets with brands&logos L&P is using illegally), nobody has to wait for any rights to create or continue their own AWAM if they wanted to (see Pixil's fan project).

That said, if I had everything you mentioned, I'd likely contact one of the developers around here who I know are capable of creating similar quality of art and ask them if they'd be interested in continuing the project while I'm getting a small percentage of the profits from Patreon. Small percentage because I'd be doing jackshit all. I'd also want to be in charge of said Patreon incase the hired artist turns out to be L&P 2.0 in regards to their character and development processes. If that was the case, I'd likely tell my Patrons that it's game over, thank them for their continuous support, scrap everything and blame the artist for the projects downfall, at which point this L&P 2.0 would likely continue on their own using the assets I provided them with.

That would bring us back to where we are right now, so I say fuck it. Full circle!

 

[LatinoBoy65]

The probability is high that L&P is simply on vacation.

Yeahhh - 2nd vacation within 2 months. happy life.

 

[Alley_Cat]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?

I more or less do have the list of all assets used in the game. Only thing I'm really missing is the layout of the ground floor of the house, and the assets used for some of the students in the classroom like Lucas, Mason and Zac.

So in terms of what would I do? Probably the same thing I've been trying to do since the PD11 release - the Lesbian route rewrite. But an actual lesbian route, so taking out Logan and co, the Prison event etc.

Might keep the Sam route, but find someone to help me rework the last Sam event so he's less of a Gary Stu Casanova.

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Since the game is not copyrighted...

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of current copyright law (in the US, at least) is that L&P doesn't have to formally submit any copyright documentation to have legal protection over his IP, such that any of this is his IP. The average developer is unlikely to take any legal action--in part because it would cost more than it would be worth and it would publicly reveal the dev's identity--but that doesn't mean people could outright steal AWAM and not be violating L&P's copyright. In a legal challenge, L&P would simply have to prove that he created AWAM and then demonstrate that someone else was ripping off his IP.

 

[wtam00]

Thanks for sharing

 

[palmtrees89]

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of current copyright law (in the US, at least) is that L&P doesn't have to formally submit any copyright documentation to have legal protection over his IP, such that any of this is his IP. The average developer is unlikely to take any legal action--in part because it would cost more than it would be worth and it would publicly reveal the dev's identity--but that doesn't mean people could outright steal AWAM and not be violating L&P's copyright. In a legal challenge, L&P would simply have to prove that he created AWAM and then demonstrate that someone else was ripping off his IP.

Interesting. Well, L&P is currently in Switzerland and I'm not in the US either. But truth be told, I've got no clue if that changes anything. Laws over there might be similar. Guess I'm a criminal in that case!

 

[rAmSiMaL]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?

We know (based on LP claims) that the story is already written for the total period of the game (30 playable days). It means that all the various routes are there already (e.g. if Aidan is stopped by Don Morello then…). I understand that “the Twist” played a vital role in his original writing and he tried to change it since his Patreon subscribers didn’t like it at all. If I was LP I would re-write the Dylan/Sophia LI having in mind that Dylan is:
- Either my little boy who gradually becomes a man and my feelings grow stronger with time.
- Or the little pervert who likes to see mommy interact with other men (the infamous cuck route).
By any means I wouldn’t make him a second MC. Total waste of time. After fixing that I would check what’s the main reason for slowing down the progress and try to address it.
- Complexity of assets used. Hire an expert.
- Story over-detailed. Reduce the unnecessary parts (e.g. side jobs, Emma, etc).
To make more sense in terms of gradual corruption I would remove the 30 days counter and extend the timeline. If you want to have some sense of realism you cannot expect a conservative wife and mother to become a super slut within 30 days after 20 years of a relatively stable marriage because her husband is overwhelmed with work responsibilities for one or two months… The maximum I can expect in that case is an ons with a total stranger. Otherwise there’s missing narrative…
- what has been Sophia Liam relationship in the past few years?
- what makes Sophia feel horny in general?
So far LP has demonstrated that Sophia and Liam are deeply in love… It doesn’t make any sense at all that out of the blue she becomes a slut.

If however we say “fuck realism” then make it a proper porn game, shorten the updates and let Sophia fuck someone already…

 

[Deleted member 1814663]

can you guys see the progress bar?

 

[hzjujk]

We know (based on LP claims) that the story is already written for the total period of the game (30 playable days). It means that all the various routes are there already (e.g. if Aidan is stopped by Don Morello then…). I understand that “the Twist” played a vital role in his original writing and he tried to change it since his Patreon subscribers didn’t like it at all. If I was LP I would re-write the Dylan/Sophia LI having in mind that Dylan is:
- Either my little boy who gradually becomes a man and my feelings grow stronger with time.
- Or the little pervert who likes to see mommy interact with other men (the infamous cuck route).
By any means I wouldn’t make him a second MC. Total waste of time. After fixing that I would check what’s the main reason for slowing down the progress and try to address it.
- Complexity of assets used. Hire an expert.
- Story over-detailed. Reduce the unnecessary parts (e.g. side jobs, Emma, etc).
To make more sense in terms of gradual corruption I would remove the 30 days counter and extend the timeline. If you want to have some sense of realism you cannot expect a conservative wife and mother to become a super slut within 30 days after 20 years of a relatively stable marriage because her husband is overwhelmed with work responsibilities for one or two months… The maximum I can expect in that case is an ons with a total stranger. Otherwise there’s missing narrative…
- what has been Sophia Liam relationship in the past few years?
- what makes Sophia feel horny in general?
So far LP has demonstrated that Sophia and Liam are deeply in love… It doesn’t make any sense at all that out of the blue she becomes a slut.

If however we say “fuck realism” then make it a proper porn game, shorten the updates and let Sophia fuck someone already…

How do you know that the "twist" had a decisive role in the game? I ask this because L&P himself wrote that it was not important for the Dylan/Sophia path.
As I understand it, or interpreting this statement, he didn't have a reasonable resolution for this "twist" within the game, L&P just believed that this betrayal of Dylan would "fade away" in the course of the game.
If you have other, better information, please share it.

 

[LucidLover]

can you guys see the progress bar?

yes but it isn't moving

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

yes but it isn't moving

Why would it move though? The cash flow remains steady.

 

[kunjunction]

Since the game is not copyrighted (except for certain assets with brands&logos L&P is using illegally), nobody has to wait for any rights to create or continue their own AWAM if they wanted to (see Pixil's fan project).

That said, if I had everything you mentioned, I'd likely contact one of the developers around here who I know are capable of creating similar quality of art and ask them if they'd be interested in continuing the project while I'm getting a small percentage of the profits from Patreon. Small percentage because I'd be doing jackshit all. I'd also want to be in charge of said Patreon incase the hired artist turns out to be L&P 2.0 in regards to their character and development processes. If that was the case, I'd likely tell my Patrons that it's game over, thank them for their continuous support, scrap everything and blame the artist for the projects downfall, at which point this L&P 2.0 would likely continue on their own using the assets I provided them with.

That would bring us back to where we are right now, so I say fuck it. Full circle!

I have a 4090 and a 13900k with 128 gb of ddr5. so if someone is creating anything and wants some free rendering hit me up ill gladly make you some 4k renders after you make the scenes.

 

[Golden Trump]

I have a 4090 and a 13900k with 128 gb of ddr5. so if someone is creating anything and wants some free rendering hit me up ill gladly make you some 4k renders after you make the scenes.

Dude, just hit up with those fan made games of AWAM. One thing common with all those fan made is the quality of renders especially of Sophia. None of those look like the one from the game but more like a rundown version of her. So if u can create that then just join hands with Pixil or interbladecard and go for it. I will fkin become your high tier patron.

 

[kunjunction]

Dude, just hit up with those fan made games of AWAM. One thing common with all those fan made is the quality of renders especially of Sophia. None of those look like the one from the game but more like a rundown version of her. So if u can create that then just join hands with Pixil or interbladecard and go for it. I will fkin become your high tier patron.

Just sent him a message hopefully he responds.

 

[Golden Trump]

Just sent him a message hopefully he responds.

I have another advice too, If they ignore your message or say no then why not make your own. There are fanmade games for AWAM but there ain't one for JOHN. That game is too going the same direction as this one so if you manage to create a fanmade that is equal to the quality of Stoper's and give the content people want then for sure you are gonna end up being successful since there isn't any competition there in terms of fanmades.