ihl86

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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)

2. Sam and his family

3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).

4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister

2. The postman

3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her

4. Sex Ed kids

5. Old dudes in the retirement home

6. Mob boss

That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
In your list you are keeping almost all of the young cast (except Zac) and removing more of the adults. I have recently learned that some people watch it for the adult content. Most of the adults are secondary paths. If you don't have enough of them you have Sofia jumping from kid to kid with an adult from time to time. She would seem more like a predator than anything else.
Some of the adults you didn't mention (I'm sure there are more): Nathalie, Alyssa (Zac's mom) the movers, Logan (yuck).

I totally agree though that he should cut out the randoms and one time meetings. They bring very little to the story. Maybe he wants her to make the first step with someone she doesn't know in a place she's not known in. A one-night stand can sometimes be easier as a first step than other alternatives. If that is the case I can understand it, and he could keep that one random but that's it.


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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)
...that rout would take at least 2 updates and wouldn't be all that good. So more like 4 would be needed
2. Sam and his family
...Yes, and is the easiest for Dylan and Sam's mom is an easy catch. Also a good plot devise in that if he can get Amber, he would develop the courage and self-confidence to make the real move on Sophia
3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).
...Thats whole Aidan rout is the weakest of all. He has the teacher pretty much under his control and ought to be working at getting Sophia for himself
4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister
...Agreed! But not for the reasons you're thinking of. Yes, Patrica is good plot build tool to "corrupt" Sophia, but mostly Patrica is the best developed character, and a lot of interesting scenes can come out of it. It's not just the possibility of a lesbian scene, but the two sisters getting into a mutually shared experience.
2. The postman
...Oh Hell No! Keep him around as just side plot fixes but no, the mailman need not knock on Sophia's door.
3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her
...Have to say no to that. Those characters are so far back into the past and would take serious updates to reestablish their relevance to the story. It would be better if someone beats up or runs off those two or by doing so, it strengthens other storylines
4. Sex Ed kids
...I really don't know how the developer is going to pull off this rout. I'd keep it just because I want to see how the developer solves this problem. IF I was the story writer, I have some ideas on it--ideas that are plausible, but I am not on the team which is better because I am curious how someone else will pull it off.
5. Old dudes in the retirement home
...Nope! There are too many better story routs to focus on. First Amber's Daughter working her way through her newfound sexual identity as well as Sophia's. The maid, it's interesting but not that well developed so just makes for an interesting scene. The rest of the other possible routs can just be of interest and filler material to further the story line.
6. Mob boss
...Why? The only way you could get the boss more involved is for him to do more favors for Sophia. Worst Sophia hasn't built that much attraction for him to be that interested
That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
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Thing is there are still things left undone that were introduced earlier. The movers, the janitor, the two college boys, the maybe wife-swap Liam has brought up, the pregnancy angle if there is one...etc.

The movers, not so much unless Sophia bumps into them again on the streets...just like the ones who assaulted Sophia in the subway. Rather weak and maybe just to build more back drop to Sophia's
corruption. The Janitor, naw, not really. The janitor was so long ago and how would you make that happen; more important, why would Sophia go down that rabbit hole. The two college boys, sure that one is a one-night stand sort of adventure Patrica and Sophia can both take part in.

Then you have side events like Dylan, Ellie, etc. And you can reintroduce characters like Tyler (he actually has gone the furthest with Sophia save for Liam...had they been left alone or had the ability to go somewhere more private it is likely he would have been the first to tag Sophia

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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)
...that rout would take at least 2 updates and wouldn't be all that good. So more like 4 would be needed

I think he meant keep them as mainline characters and interests for Sofia, not the storyline with them getting together. (Although that's actually the only storyline for Dylan that I like, I don't really care about him and Sofia)

2. Sam and his family
...Yes, and is the easiest for Dylan and Sam's mom is an easy catch. Also a good plot devise in that if he can get Amber, he would develop the courage and self-confidence to make the real move on Sophia
3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).
...Thats whole Aidan rout is the weakest of all. He has the teacher pretty much under his control and ought to be working at getting Sophia for himself

What do you mean by weakest? In what sense?
Also, I don't think he really has Sofia under his control. His control over Sofia is strenuous at best. Her motivation to keep him happy and off Dylan's back is not that strong. You can easily see that with Dylan going off to boarding school if you refuse Aiden at any point during the storyline. She doesn't really loose sleep over it. This storyline is good because we see that Sofia actually enjoys the exhibitionism and almost everything that goes with it. The only part she doesn't enjoy (or doesn't admit it to herself yet) is that Aiden is the one making her do all this stuff.



4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister
...Agreed! But not for the reasons you're thinking of. Yes, Patrica is good plot build tool to "corrupt" Sophia, but mostly Patrica is the best developed character, and a lot of interesting scenes can come out of it. It's not just the possibility of a lesbian scene, but the two sisters getting into a mutually shared experience.
2. The postman
...Oh Hell No! Keep him around as just side plot fixes but no, the mailman need not knock on Sophia's door.
3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her
...Have to say no to that. Those characters are so far back into the past and would take serious updates to reestablish their relevance to the story. It would be better if someone beats up or runs off those two or by doing so, it strengthens other storylines
4. Sex Ed kids
...I really don't know how the developer is going to pull off this rout. I'd keep it just because I want to see how the developer solves this problem. IF I was the story writer, I have some ideas on it--ideas that are plausible, but I am not on the team which is better because I am curious how someone else will pull it off.
5. Old dudes in the retirement home
...Nope! There are too many better story routs to focus on. First Amber's Daughter working her way through her newfound sexual identity as well as Sophia's. The maid, it's interesting but not that well developed so just makes for an interesting scene. The rest of the other possible routs can just be of interest and filler material to further the story line.
6. Mob boss
...Why? The only way you could get the boss more involved is for him to do more favors for Sophia. Worst Sophia hasn't built that much attraction for him to be that interested

The mob boss is back in the path where you get him to help you and beat up on Aiden to get him off your back. He even tells her he might call for a favor in the future for this. I very much like that idea. And from what I've read from L&P's answers, there is no plan for the mob boss himself to get with Sofia, so there's no need for an attraction there. That favor would involve getting Sofia to work in his casino or some other shady stuff and there, fun things can happen.



That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
-________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thing is there are still things left undone that were introduced earlier. The movers, the janitor, the two college boys, the maybe wife-swap Liam has brought up, the pregnancy angle if there is one...etc.

The movers, not so much unless Sophia bumps into them again on the streets...just like the ones who assaulted Sophia in the subway. Rather weak and maybe just to build more back drop to Sophia's
corruption. The Janitor, naw, not really. The janitor was so long ago and how would you make that happen; more important, why would Sophia go down that rabbit hole. The two college boys, sure that one is a one-night stand sort of adventure Patrica and Sophia can both take part in.

Then you have side events like Dylan, Ellie, etc. And you can reintroduce characters like Tyler (he actually has gone the furthest with Sophia save for Liam...had they been left alone or had the ability to go somewhere more private it is likely he would have been the first to tag Sophia



What I said above to AlfredBundy4 applies even more to you, as you were saying no to even more of the adults characters. A game with Sofia and mostly kids would not work for a lot of people.



All that being said, I appreciate how much thought both of you put into how the story should unfold. I hope I just gave you another perspective about that.
 

oshikuru

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Like someone said some 10+ pages ago. This game lost all of the plot realism factor some time ago. Now we have our protagonist going from place to place in the space of several hours doing lewd stuff, which in reality she wouldn't. And this is all the creators fault as he takes so long with his updates that he is basically forced to put in these scenes to appease the masses.

For example in the current day (I could mix up some scenes, it's been over a year ok).
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This is not a normal progression, but the progression of a developer who didn't think the plot out too well, then his updates got slow and now he is forced to basically make every update as lewd as he can.

I have no problems with the renders nor with the scenes themselves, but the story and the "realism" is far gone.
 

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I thought we had a breakthrough with her mindset about incest, as we read at the end of the previous update.
But no. We are back at zero. A simple line would suffice at the very end of this one.

"This was definitely a taboo break, and she absolutely has to talk to him tomorrow and say that it can't go on like this."
"And yet her hand moved downwards to touch herself"

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Alley_Cat

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Like someone said some 10+ pages ago. This game lost all of the plot realism factor some time ago. Now we have our protagonist going from place to place in the space of several hours doing lewd stuff, which in reality she wouldn't. And this is all the creators fault as he takes so long with his updates that he is basically forced to put in these scenes to appease the masses.

For example in the current day (I could mix up some scenes, it's been over a year ok).
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This is not a normal progression, but the progression of a developer who didn't think the plot out too well, then his updates got slow and now he is forced to basically make every update as lewd as he can.

I have no problems with the renders nor with the scenes themselves, but the story and the "realism" is far gone.
There wasn't really anything for those that play the first side job this PD. The scene for those on that path was Sophia going to a cafe, not actually working at the nursing home.
 

Jacky D

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Every update is 2-3 months. Every Update is one scene for one side story. This can literally be a 20 year development and just like the simps on OnlyFans. The Simps on lust's Patreon will fund his retirement.
 

ItsNotUs

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I was lucky! I went to the site, the update was already available, calmly, leisurely played without going to the forum.After, went to the forum and what can i say: There are "very-very-very bad" people! Unfortunately i cannot say otherwise since moderators can "punish" for this, but let these people know that I have the "very bad" opinion about them! They don't have self-respect and respect for the people around so unceremoniously spoiling the entire update - is just a disaster!
One person said it right: people waited 4 months for the update to be spoiled by a bunch of "bad people"!

As for the update itself, it turned out to be good, it is difficult to rate it higher, because it took too much time to create it and these games of "cat and mouse" are pretty tired! Take off your shorts, put on your shorts, take off your undys, put on your undy - what the hell?!! :ROFLMAO:
At first I thought that this update was a separate path of Dylan's story, but this is a continuation of the last update, why these
"games thit innocence"!!? Dylan has already seen his mother's breasts, touched her and kissed her passionately, but Sophia, again sits with her breasts covered most of the scenes in the jacuzzi ...(n) This "innocence" is already rather tired, these excuses that she is drunk!? Drunk with three beers?:ROFLMAO:
In fact, she is very horny due to the lack of attention from her husband and the people around her all want to "play" with her.
She's at the peak of her "explosion" at the end of the previous update she was already thinking about incest and that Dylan was attracted to her as a "man", but we get in this update, thanks to a "certain game" of the "first date of strangers", a rollback of these events!
Someone says that in this update the quality of the images has become even better, as for me in some scenes, especially in the dance scenes in the club, they look very dull and bad as if someone else rendered them or LP decided to "cheat" on them!
Why did people vote for choosing a new hairstyle? After all, it’s easier to make animations with this hair! But at every opportunity, LP turns her hair into a Bun!:ROFLMAO: xD

P.S: And in the last update, if I chose to remain silent in the scene where Sophia's breasts were visible in Maria's salon, that cuckold points to Dylan and after that Sophia did not invite him to take the bathroom with her, then in this update this choice does not affect last two events! Is this a bug?
 
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Alley_Cat

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Every update is 2-3 months. Every Update is one scene for one side story. This can literally be a 20 year development and just like the simps on OnlyFans. The Simps on lust's Patreon will fund his retirement.
It's even worse if you consider that this PD is taking about 2 years to produce. If this rate continues, with 17 PDs left remaining, that's about 34 years.
 

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In your list you are keeping almost all of the young cast (except Zac) and removing more of the adults. I have recently learned that some people watch it for the adult content. Most of the adults are secondary paths. If you don't have enough of them you have Sofia jumping from kid to kid with an adult from time to time. She would seem more like a predator than anything else.
Some of the adults you didn't mention (I'm sure there are more): Nathalie, Alyssa (Zac's mom) the movers, Logan (yuck).

I totally agree though that he should cut out the randoms and one time meetings. They bring very little to the story. Maybe he wants her to make the first step with someone she doesn't know in a place she's not known in. A one-night stand can sometimes be easier as a first step than other alternatives. If that is the case I can understand it, and he could keep that one random but that's it.





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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)
...that rout would take at least 2 updates and wouldn't be all that good. So more like 4 would be needed

I think he meant keep them as mainline characters and interests for Sofia, not the storyline with them getting together. (Although that's actually the only storyline for Dylan that I like, I don't really care about him and Sofia)

2. Sam and his family
...Yes, and is the easiest for Dylan and Sam's mom is an easy catch. Also a good plot devise in that if he can get Amber, he would develop the courage and self-confidence to make the real move on Sophia
3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).
...Thats whole Aidan rout is the weakest of all. He has the teacher pretty much under his control and ought to be working at getting Sophia for himself

What do you mean by weakest? In what sense?
Also, I don't think he really has Sofia under his control. His control over Sofia is strenuous at best. Her motivation to keep him happy and off Dylan's back is not that strong. You can easily see that with Dylan going off to boarding school if you refuse Aiden at any point during the storyline. She doesn't really loose sleep over it. This storyline is good because we see that Sofia actually enjoys the exhibitionism and almost everything that goes with it. The only part she doesn't enjoy (or doesn't admit it to herself yet) is that Aiden is the one making her do all this stuff.



4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister
...Agreed! But not for the reasons you're thinking of. Yes, Patrica is good plot build tool to "corrupt" Sophia, but mostly Patrica is the best developed character, and a lot of interesting scenes can come out of it. It's not just the possibility of a lesbian scene, but the two sisters getting into a mutually shared experience.
2. The postman
...Oh Hell No! Keep him around as just side plot fixes but no, the mailman need not knock on Sophia's door.
3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her
...Have to say no to that. Those characters are so far back into the past and would take serious updates to reestablish their relevance to the story. It would be better if someone beats up or runs off those two or by doing so, it strengthens other storylines
4. Sex Ed kids
...I really don't know how the developer is going to pull off this rout. I'd keep it just because I want to see how the developer solves this problem. IF I was the story writer, I have some ideas on it--ideas that are plausible, but I am not on the team which is better because I am curious how someone else will pull it off.
5. Old dudes in the retirement home
...Nope! There are too many better story routs to focus on. First Amber's Daughter working her way through her newfound sexual identity as well as Sophia's. The maid, it's interesting but not that well developed so just makes for an interesting scene. The rest of the other possible routs can just be of interest and filler material to further the story line.
6. Mob boss
...Why? The only way you could get the boss more involved is for him to do more favors for Sophia. Worst Sophia hasn't built that much attraction for him to be that interested

The mob boss is back in the path where you get him to help you and beat up on Aiden to get him off your back. He even tells her he might call for a favor in the future for this. I very much like that idea. And from what I've read from L&P's answers, there is no plan for the mob boss himself to get with Sofia, so there's no need for an attraction there. That favor would involve getting Sofia to work in his casino or some other shady stuff and there, fun things can happen.



That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
-________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thing is there are still things left undone that were introduced earlier. The movers, the janitor, the two college boys, the maybe wife-swap Liam has brought up, the pregnancy angle if there is one...etc.

The movers, not so much unless Sophia bumps into them again on the streets...just like the ones who assaulted Sophia in the subway. Rather weak and maybe just to build more back drop to Sophia's
corruption. The Janitor, naw, not really. The janitor was so long ago and how would you make that happen; more important, why would Sophia go down that rabbit hole. The two college boys, sure that one is a one-night stand sort of adventure Patrica and Sophia can both take part in.

Then you have side events like Dylan, Ellie, etc. And you can reintroduce characters like Tyler (he actually has gone the furthest with Sophia save for Liam...had they been left alone or had the ability to go somewhere more private it is likely he would have been the first to tag Sophia



What I said above to AlfredBundy4 applies even more to you, as you were saying no to even more of the adults characters. A game with Sofia and mostly kids would not work for a lot of people.



All that being said, I appreciate how much thought both of you put into how the story should unfold. I hope I just gave you another perspective about that.
didn't the movers plant a spy camera in the bathroom the one where shes been making out with her daughter they could come back and blackmail her.
 

Jacky D

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It's even worse if you consider that this PD is taking about 2 years to produce. If this rate continues, with 17 PDs left remaining, that's about 34 years.
Wow, so he can retire and have his kids work on the same project too? A real family business!
 

tofhdns

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You are saying I'm playing with words as an excuse to not admit when you're wrong. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

You are also again, claiming I said things I never said "They sponsored the game expecting, like you, "next time there will be a sex scene."" . I never said next time there will be a sex scene, why you keep returning to that is beyond me.

Regarding the people that sponsor him you would have to ask them. I do have one question for you. If they are so disappointed in what L&P is doing why do they keep supporting him? What person in their right mind would think "this developer is scamming me, taking my money and not delivering on his promises so I must give him more money" ?
There's a game with 4000 Patron zombies, even though the game has been out of development (officially) for close to two years (or more).

Therefore, it is not possible to conclude for one reason why Patrons is maintained.

On the other hand, it can be inferred that they are dissatisfied because the activity of some top tier Patrons has decreased or they have lowered their tier level.

In addition, it is easy to guess that the number of patrons in this game has also stagnated, so it is not generating interest from people anymore.

I just have to say that I mistook you for the same kind of fanboys I've been seeing.

To the criticism that "the game has become sloppy," they say, "Don't add reality to porn games, just enjoy it,"
and at the same time, to the criticism that "the story progresses too slowly," they say, "Because the story is realistic."

They promote the game by saying "this time there will be sex and hj, fj, bj" all six years.
And then, after the update, when people criticize "there's no such thing", they say, "If you want to see that, watch a porn video or a magazine."

So, reading your post, I thought you were in the same category as them.

I guess I was a bit overdone.
I think Playing day 15 or 16 is supposed to have 3 sex events or something.
I said there will be sex in this game. At some point in time. Unless this gets abandoned, it is a fact.
And this too, I thought you were tricking people like they were, by bringing up something that had nothing to do with Sophia and pretending there was a sex event for Sophia.

sorry
 
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ZARA-LOVE

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we are already going to success, she gave herself so much to touching her son and even jerked off his cock and let him cum on her chest and stomach, so by the end of season 2 she will take his cock in her mouth and let her hands touch her pussy,
 

joelurmel

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i keep getting this error message.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

After loading the script.
PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Owner\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 275, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\main.py", line 536, in main
renpy.savetoken.upgrade_all_savefiles()
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\savetoken.py", line 251, in upgrade_all_savefiles
with open(upgraded_txt, "a") as f:
PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Owner\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.190 0.190
Sun Aug 27 18:06:27 2023

please fix
Fix yourself... the problem is on YOUR file C:\\Users\\Owner\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt
delete it, it will solve the problem
 

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I once thought about what makes AWAM so fascinating. In my opinion, L&P has succeeded in equipping Sophia Parker with significantly more soul and feelings, as is usually the case with Pornogames. And then he does something else that I don't like, but I have to acknowledge: He hints at so many different fetishes and developments that there is something for almost everyone. Whether blackmail, incest, romance, young and old, NTR, the list could go on for a long time. And now L&P is slowly getting into a dilemma. This update thrilled the 20% of fans who like mother and son – disappointed the 80% who didn't like it.

From my point of view, L&M is a fantastic marketing man. Respect! The game will never be able to convince due to the too many directions.
 

ihl86

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didn't the movers plant a spy camera in the bathroom the one where shes been making out with her daughter they could come back and blackmail her.
Interesting. The event with the movers was so far back I can't remember anything with them except a breakfast in lingerie or something similar. That would be a good moving point for some lewd stuff with them. In this case though, I expect it will be towards the end of the game, after Sofia has already had sex. And if we consider the speed of development, the movers storyline seems to be 5 years or more in the future (maybe even 10).
 
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