DarthSpitz717

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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)

2. Sam and his family

3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).

4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister

2. The postman

3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her

4. Sex Ed kids

5. Old dudes in the retirement home

6. Mob boss

That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)
...that rout would take at least 2 updates and wouldn't be all that good. So more like 4 would be needed
2. Sam and his family
...Yes, and is the easiest for Dylan and Sam's mom is an easy catch. Also a good plot devise in that if he can get Amber, he would develop the courage and self-confidence to make the real move on Sophia
3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).
...Thats whole Aidan rout is the weakest of all. He has the teacher pretty much under his control and ought to be working at getting Sophia for himself
4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister
...Agreed! But not for the reasons you're thinking of. Yes, Patrica is good plot build tool to "corrupt" Sophia, but mostly Patrica is the best developed character, and a lot of interesting scenes can come out of it. It's not just the possibility of a lesbian scene, but the two sisters getting into a mutually shared experience.
2. The postman
...Oh Hell No! Keep him around as just side plot fixes but no, the mailman need not knock on Sophia's door.
3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her
...Have to say no to that. Those characters are so far back into the past and would take serious updates to reestablish their relevance to the story. It would be better if someone beats up or runs off those two or by doing so, it strengthens other storylines
4. Sex Ed kids
...I really don't know how the developer is going to pull off this rout. I'd keep it just because I want to see how the developer solves this problem. IF I was the story writer, I have some ideas on it--ideas that are plausible, but I am not on the team which is better because I am curious how someone else will pull it off.
5. Old dudes in the retirement home
...Nope! There are too many better story routs to focus on. First Amber's Daughter working her way through her newfound sexual identity as well as Sophia's. The maid, it's interesting but not that well developed so just makes for an interesting scene. The rest of the other possible routs can just be of interest and filler material to further the story line.
6. Mob boss
...Why? The only way you could get the boss more involved is for him to do more favors for Sophia. Worst Sophia hasn't built that much attraction for him to be that interested
That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
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Thing is there are still things left undone that were introduced earlier. The movers, the janitor, the two college boys, the maybe wife-swap Liam has brought up, the pregnancy angle if there is one...etc.

The movers, not so much unless Sophia bumps into them again on the streets...just like the ones who assaulted Sophia in the subway. Rather weak and maybe just to build more back drop to Sophia's
corruption. The Janitor, naw, not really. The janitor was so long ago and how would you make that happen; more important, why would Sophia go down that rabbit hole. The two college boys, sure that one is a one-night stand sort of adventure Patrica and Sophia can both take part in.

Then you have side events like Dylan, Ellie, etc. And you can reintroduce characters like Tyler (he actually has gone the furthest with Sophia save for Liam...had they been left alone or had the ability to go somewhere more private it is likely he would have been the first to tag Sophia
 

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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)
...that rout would take at least 2 updates and wouldn't be all that good. So more like 4 would be needed
2. Sam and his family
...Yes, and is the easiest for Dylan and Sam's mom is an easy catch. Also a good plot devise in that if he can get Amber, he would develop the courage and self-confidence to make the real move on Sophia
3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).
...Thats whole Aidan rout is the weakest of all. He has the teacher pretty much under his control and ought to be working at getting Sophia for himself
4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister
...Agreed! But not for the reasons you're thinking of. Yes, Patrica is good plot build tool to "corrupt" Sophia, but mostly Patrica is the best developed character, and a lot of interesting scenes can come out of it. It's not just the possibility of a lesbian scene, but the two sisters getting into a mutually shared experience.
2. The postman
...Oh Hell No! Keep him around as just side plot fixes but no, the mailman need not knock on Sophia's door.
3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her
...Have to say no to that. Those characters are so far back into the past and would take serious updates to reestablish their relevance to the story. It would be better if someone beats up or runs off those two or by doing so, it strengthens other storylines
4. Sex Ed kids
...I really don't know how the developer is going to pull off this rout. I'd keep it just because I want to see how the developer solves this problem. IF I was the story writer, I have some ideas on it--ideas that are plausible, but I am not on the team which is better because I am curious how someone else will pull it off.
5. Old dudes in the retirement home
...Nope! There are too many better story routs to focus on. First Amber's Daughter working her way through her newfound sexual identity as well as Sophia's. The maid, it's interesting but not that well developed so just makes for an interesting scene. The rest of the other possible routs can just be of interest and filler material to further the story line.
6. Mob boss
...Why? The only way you could get the boss more involved is for him to do more favors for Sophia. Worst Sophia hasn't built that much attraction for him to be that interested
That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
-________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thing is there are still things left undone that were introduced earlier. The movers, the janitor, the two college boys, the maybe wife-swap Liam has brought up, the pregnancy angle if there is one...etc.

The movers, not so much unless Sophia bumps into them again on the streets...just like the ones who assaulted Sophia in the subway. Rather weak and maybe just to build more back drop to Sophia's
corruption. The Janitor, naw, not really. The janitor was so long ago and how would you make that happen; more important, why would Sophia go down that rabbit hole. The two college boys, sure that one is a one-night stand sort of adventure Patrica and Sophia can both take part in.

Then you have side events like Dylan, Ellie, etc. And you can reintroduce characters like Tyler (he actually has gone the furthest with Sophia save for Liam...had they been left alone or had the ability to go somewhere more private it is likely he would have been the first to tag Sophia
See, but it wasn't so long ago! IRL it was but in game time it was like 2 weeks ago, lol.

Which is why it's crazy to have a days system. It should be months.

Still, while very valid points I don't even know who a few are. I don't recall a Tyler. Was that the guy at the club?
Either way, I think that's a decision that just has to be made. If they are that much of a side character that we've seen them once in 6 years...gotta cut em. Gotta or this will never have a hope of finishing before 2035-2040.
 
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Probably never. If ICSTOR and Onxydime keep fucking around, we probably would be better off playing a different game rather than wait for this horse shit. ICSTOR and Onyxdime are most likely buttmates working together, just leeching off their patrons misleadingly, and delivering no promises in return.
ICSTOR is a legend. Made 100s of thousands a year and quit making content years ago. I'm still amazed so many just let their money get debited every month for years and don't pay attention.
 

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ICSTOR is a legend. Made 100s of thousands a year and quit making content years ago. I'm still amazed so many just let their money get debited every month for years and don't pay attention.
Ugh, I meant to post that post in the "milfy city" thread, not here. No worries.
 
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restlez

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Same its the same issue i had with the last update, the MC of the Story its supposed to be Sophia, not Dylan, and yet in this update and the last, we kept listening to Dylan's thoughts and feelings, which i wouldnt mind knowing some bits of Dylans, feeling, but i want to know everything thats going into Sophia's mind not just few bit and pieces every now and then, also i would have likes it more if there was no alcohol involve,
Come to think of it you're right about Sophia being the MC. But from a storytelling perspective it could be balanced perspective of parties involved in the scene. I suppose it was reflective that Dylan was the initiator of most actions in the scenes here and Sophia just the respondent.

Also agree with the alcohol. It also seems like a lazy plot device.
 

wzelisen

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Anyone can suck Sofia tits, but her vagina only belongs to one,

This is another bad update, bad animation, bad emojis, and even the plot is so bad (and there is a plot foreshadowing, I don't think this game will end one day, you continue 20 years, there will be no results).
 

Ohhyeahbabe

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Anyone can suck Sofia tits, but her vagina only belongs to one,

This is another bad update, bad animation, bad emojis, and even the plot is so bad (and there is a plot foreshadowing, I don't think this game will end one day, you continue 20 years, there will be no results).
Even his patron has started scolding him for slow update and poor content. Lets see where will it go? IMG_0610.jpeg
 

SophiaMelinda

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It was a good update and finally, we saw Sophia pleasuring someone other than Liam(whatever the context be). I also think it is wrong to compare this directly with Sam's event as there she was not drunk and most things she did sober and like she wanted whereas here, her being under the alcohol was brought up a few times and it was night and she was reluctant at first but later she did what she did. Also here she was the one giving someone pleasure but with Sam, she was the one getting pleasured. Both are good updates but there are differences between them and a comparison isn't fair.
Has Dylan seen Sophia completely naked from the front with Sophia knowing he's looking like she did with Sam with him painting her nude?
 
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