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you should do the same thing with text pagesHello guys, need your opinion!
We all know that the main problem of the game is a huge amount of renders per each event, because of that one update with one event takes about 4 months to produce.
So I decided to make an experiment. I've downloaded CGs from the last 0.190 update, reduced the amount of images from 414 to 160 and uploaded on Mega: Mega
So I need your opinion. Which is better: 414 images that took 4 months to produce, or 160 images which could be possibly rendered only in 1,5 months?
Putif you'd choose 160 images version with only 1,5 months of development!
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I first want to say that I am definitely not judging. It was just expressing my opinion on the matter. Something definitely needs to change, but I think the answer is a bigger team. With enough pressure from his patrons I think that could happen or he abandons the game completely. I don't think anyone will convince him to do less renders than he feels like for events, no matter what we think.
I looked at the renders you chose in the meantime. They all look fine (although to be honest more than I expected were with them at the club table).
To fully realize what is missing I would have to replay the event and compare any missing render to the one that is supposed to replace it (I imagine you would keep all the writing, just use the same renders for more lines of dialogue or narration)
I actually stopped Dylan again and again the first and only time I played this event. Chose the blocking path, curious what Sophia would do, scrolled back and continue with the event. If I were to replay the event I would indeed not chose those options again but they are important if we don't want just a kinetic novel. Maybe this time there were a few too many, indeed.
I do admit that sometimes the moving around images could be skipped, IF there is no narration going on in them. But it does change the feel of the game a little. For me it would not be a problem but I think L&P is the type of person to do things only his way.
I think L&P either is really bad at optimizing his time, or I don't really want to say lies to his patrons about what it takes and how long but maybe that happens as well.
I am going to give you an example of a few renders that you skipped that should definitely take less time, with the explanation why that is so.
I put them all in a word, so it doesn't take the whole thread page.
While going through the renders step by step to show you the examples in the attached document I want to mention for example you skipped them eating the desert in the hot-tub. That is one render on the refusal path. But it is also included in the normal path. It's something they do before they get to the naughty stuff and from a story point of view can't really be skipped, as that was their plan, to enjoy the desert in the jacuzzi.
After looking through the game again, most of the problem comes down to render time. There are a lot of images in the ones you skipped that are the same scene (explained in the document).
I think L&P should just rent out some rendering power from a render farm. It's not that expensive compared to the income he has, and that should resolve the issue almost completely. Especially since he could start rendering scenes as soon as he completed them, while he prepares the next one.
Question for the people that are active here and now what has been discussed with L&P: Has no one asked him why he doesn't use a render farm for rendering. The time should be cut down by almost all of his render time progression bubble, with that.
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She has only one problem - to cut down as much money as possible.
I think so as well. But from the pricing I looked, one month of 10 hours per day would be like 1000 dollars. That's not that much. Considering how powerful those computers are I think he could render a whole update in a month, month and a half at most. If we consider he could render at night on his computer as well, in parallel with the render farms...
Would really love to know if anyone asked him about render farms.
Guess I did the right thing by dropping this game...
God, I even forgot the year i played this...
Lmao ,and this is the progress of the game since then....
God, I even forgot the year i played this...
Lmao ,and this is the progress of the game since then....
I took your point. Thanks for your detailed feedback and specific proposals. Wish the dev could take those recommendations as well.
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She won't tell the truth. Or come up with a fantasy story about render farms)))
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Don't like Aiden and Sam so good update for me. Hoping for more action with Dylan and Sofia's Revenge on Aiden.
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L&P wrote that most of the time is spent not on rendering the scene, but on creating the scene.
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The last Ellie event was 140 renders. Don't know how long it took, but it's still one of my favourite events of the game.Hello guys, need your opinion!
We all know that the main problem of the game is a huge amount of renders per each event, because of that one update with one event takes about 4 months to produce.
So I decided to make an experiment. I've downloaded CGs from the last 0.190 update, reduced the amount of images from 414 to 160 and uploaded on Mega: Mega
So I need your opinion. Which is better: 414 images that took 4 months to produce, or 160 images which could be possibly rendered only in 1,5 months?
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Just look at Free Pass. The dev of that game (at least up until recently) was regularly putting out updates at the rate of 20 renders per day. Updates were coming out regularly every 3 weeks or so.100 renders in a week ? Please show us how
This is what I would have expected as well. But if that is the case, from the 400+ renders, at least 100 are the same scene different angles, maybe even more. And a lot are almost same scene but very few changes and a different angle as well.
So if L&P spends 2 months creating 200 different scenes, I think there's a problem there. That means 3 scenes created per day...
Someone talented should just fork this game, could even reuse some of the official renders and just make an alternative timeline that spice things up a little. Easier way to make money than starting your own game from scratch if you ask me. For example, Pixil's fan game was really good in terms of render quality but he completely abandoned the story and just went straight to the fucking. Just branch off the story a little, don't go completely in the opposite direction by making the characters do uncharacteristic things.
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Dylan's Dad, April 2018, in-game day 11 (PD4.2), v0.03
Liam's Son, August 2023, in-game day 20 (PD13), v0.190
This is all that has happened in the past five years.
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You should know that this developer was still learning Daz while making this game.He needs to learn how to tie his shoe laces properly
Most people think that this is easy, like you said with all the tutorials out there of course you can do it, but it will suck, no matter how hard you try. Because you need experience and TIME to make a game look and feel good
Including what he asks and learns from people on this site and this forum.
Some one can make something, like this developer if they do it like this developer.
He is not Zeus.
While others ran casinos or became teachers, Liam learned architectural design. That's all.
Not everyone needs to be a baker to taste and appreciate bread.
I am not dismissing game designers or game developers.
I mean to say that just as being a game developer is a valuable profession, someone shouldn't criticize others for cannot doing game development, because they're engaged in other worthwhile work.
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