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Question! What's next?
For all you doom and gloom types, your likely right about Sophia when it comes to Sam and Dylan. Sure you can script the two or three in a scene where they just can't act freely, but generally speaking, it's going to be a long time before either Sam or Dylan get their chance with Sophia. What is left is a chicken verse the egg kind of questions, or what happens first. Does Sam get Sophia first or does Dylan? Is there something else that occurs before them two???
Now here is way this long-drawn-out story has its advantage. Yes, the developer can just rush everything headlong and forget there is any premise of a game--likely not going to happen. Or might the developer opt for a surprise. Patricia is still out there and maybe the developer circles back to her and Sophia going on a museum date with the two college boys and that is where the ice is broken. And if so, should that be the point where things ought to take a turn? Are there another Darkhorse candidates we are forgetting about? And should that be the time and place?
Yes, it's taking forever! But then, if possible routes are killed off because of being impatient for new content, then you are not going to get to see all your favorites get involved.
From a writer's point of view there is just one certainty as to Dylan's route. Dylan hooks up and has his first with Amber. Then he can go after whoever, but in the end he ultimately "consummates" with Sophia. The only script/plot failing with Dylan is Dylan's fantasies. If you are in love, taking your love interest from behind and not missionary to look into their eyes takes away from plausibility.
Personally, from a writing perspective, there is plenty of room to introduce new characters that are a dead-end in themselves but play a factor in other events.
Let's say there is going to be an Ellie/Dylan route. You can bring back some old characters to put Ellie and Dylan in a situation where they become closure... (fixing the computer was a good icebreaker for that possible route
) Or you can introduce some new characters that cause Ellie and Dylan to become closer. Same can be said of Sophia. Bring back and older character to give Sophia a moral dilemma, or introduce or expand a background character and use that as a foil like, Tobe.
For all you doom and gloom types, your likely right about Sophia when it comes to Sam and Dylan. Sure you can script the two or three in a scene where they just can't act freely, but generally speaking, it's going to be a long time before either Sam or Dylan get their chance with Sophia. What is left is a chicken verse the egg kind of questions, or what happens first. Does Sam get Sophia first or does Dylan? Is there something else that occurs before them two???
Now here is way this long-drawn-out story has its advantage. Yes, the developer can just rush everything headlong and forget there is any premise of a game--likely not going to happen. Or might the developer opt for a surprise. Patricia is still out there and maybe the developer circles back to her and Sophia going on a museum date with the two college boys and that is where the ice is broken. And if so, should that be the point where things ought to take a turn? Are there another Darkhorse candidates we are forgetting about? And should that be the time and place?
Yes, it's taking forever! But then, if possible routes are killed off because of being impatient for new content, then you are not going to get to see all your favorites get involved.
From a writer's point of view there is just one certainty as to Dylan's route. Dylan hooks up and has his first with Amber. Then he can go after whoever, but in the end he ultimately "consummates" with Sophia. The only script/plot failing with Dylan is Dylan's fantasies. If you are in love, taking your love interest from behind and not missionary to look into their eyes takes away from plausibility.
Personally, from a writing perspective, there is plenty of room to introduce new characters that are a dead-end in themselves but play a factor in other events.
Let's say there is going to be an Ellie/Dylan route. You can bring back some old characters to put Ellie and Dylan in a situation where they become closure... (fixing the computer was a good icebreaker for that possible route
) Or you can introduce some new characters that cause Ellie and Dylan to become closer. Same can be said of Sophia. Bring back and older character to give Sophia a moral dilemma, or introduce or expand a background character and use that as a foil like, Tobe.
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No, not saying that. Saying the developer isn't using his characters efficiently, you bet. Each of the developer's introductions have some potential. The maid for example, weak character development, no known motivations or backstory so getting too involved with making of the maid route isn't needed... The hair stylist and a bunch of others, yes fluff and no serious need to have them getting too much of a build.
The focus of the game is Sophia. So roads need to lead to Sophia with perhaps some side fun from other favorite characters.
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The egg came first, since reptiles can lay eggs before chickens evolved.Question! What's next?
For all you doom and gloom types, your likely right about Sophia when it comes to Sam and Dylan. Sure you can script the two or three in a scene where they just can't act freely, but generally speaking, it's going to be a long time before either Sam or Dylan get their chance with Sophia. What is left is a chicken verse the egg kind of questions, or what happens first. Does Sam get Sophia first or does Dylan? Is there something else that occurs before them two???
Now here is way this long-drawn-out story has its advantage. Yes, the developer can just rush everything headlong and forget there is any premise of a game--likely not going to happen. Or might the developer opt for a surprise. Patricia is still out there and maybe the developer circles back to her and Sophia going on a museum date with the two college boys and that is where the ice is broken. And if so, should that be the point where things ought to take a turn? Are there another Darkhorse candidates we are forgetting about? And should that be the time and place?
Yes, it's taking forever! But then, if possible routes are killed off because of being impatient for new content, then you are not going to get to see all your favorites get involved.
From a writer's point of view there is just one certainty as to Dylan's route. Dylan hooks up and has his first with Amber. Then he can go after whoever, but in the end he ultimately "consummates" with Sophia. The only script/plot failing with Dylan is Dylan's fantasies. If you are in love, taking your love interest from behind and not missionary to look into their eyes takes away from plausibility.
Personally, from a writing perspective, there is plenty of room to introduce new characters that are a dead-end in themselves but play a factor in other events.
Let's say there is going to be an Ellie/Dylan route. You can bring back some old characters to put Ellie and Dylan in a situation where they become closure... (fixing the computer was a good icebreaker for that possible route
Dylan wont have his first with Amber, and then Sophia. The routes are mutually exclusive.
The bonus story between Dylan and Ellie is also mutually exclusive with both of their main routes. As someone that plays the Ellie route, as far as her main route is concerned, she still hates him. I expect the first event of PD14 to just be her having a conversation with Sophia about when Dylan wont be around.
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I see your point. My take is it's because there's too many of them for such short period of time.
To me, both Natalie and Claire take over part of Patricia's role as Sophia's main catalyst and enabler. This would make perfect sense if this was an actual novel with months of a time span for story development.
But I also understand that he needed more sources of depravation in order for Sofia to get corrupted in such a short time. Why? Because he started from incredibly unrealistic level of Sophia's purity and is aiming at equally unrealistic level of her degradation in the end...
EDIT: in other words, at some point he felt uber-confident that he can inflate the project indefinitely and inject it with side -story updates. Reality check has come soon enough.
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If you mean Sophia, then yes, she won't be there. The bonus storyline is just fan service for Dylan fans.
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who knows if at the end of the new event (Dylan/Ellie/Christine), we would have a new alternate scene similar to this one in the post-party hot tub with Dylan and Ellie??
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In real life terms? May/June 2024 (if in the 1st update of PD14). If in the 2nd, then more like September/October 2024.
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Their relation in L&Pverse is nowhere near that stage - they haven't gone through the necessary checkpoints, so I'd say it's rather highly unlikely. Also, depends what's gonna happen at the party itself.who knows if at the end of the new event (Dylan/Ellie/Christine), we would have a new alternate scene similar to this one in the post-party hot tub with Dylan and Ellie??
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well, in the last day they bonded a lot more....
also there may be alcohol at the party.... and if they are accompanied by Christine on their return, she could give that extra boost to the evening
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______________________________________++++++++++___________________________________________________who knows if at the end of the new event (Dylan/Ellie/Christine), we would have a new alternate scene similar to this one in the post-party hot tub with Dylan and Ellie??
Ummmm no!
We need a shocked and stunned Sophia after the hot tube scene. I would prefer an emotional Sophia go to bed, unable to get to sleep and then decide to have a "talk" with Dylan in the middle of the night. The scene would go something like...:
A confused and emotional Sophia wakes Dyal and starts to apologize....
Dylan confesses is inner feelings and romantically strokes Sophia's cheeks....
They both lay in Dylan's bed talking facing each other. Sophia admits her feelings but professes how wrong it is....
As Sophia talks her usual 'philosophy' and standard 'good wife' speeches we are use too, Dylan starts to touch her....
Dylan takes charge and aggressively kisses Sophia... then we have hot tube Dylan/Sophia 2.0
**this time Dylan fingers Sophia... and then it almost happens, Dylan begins to mount Sophia, but pleads "not now, not like this..."
Scene over but we are left with Sophia realizing having sex with Dylan is a real possibility
That ought to put into play all other events the developer is wanting to put in, the realization Sophia is capable and willing do do x, y and z but now it comes down to will she
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Not going to happen. The events with Sophia are over for the Playable Day.
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I'm not saying absolutely nothing's gonna happen between the two, but not the kind of hot scene as with Sophia. I'd be more than surprised.well, in the last day they bonded a lot more....
also there may be alcohol at the party.... and if they are accompanied by Christine on their return, she could give that extra boost to the evening
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