VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[AlfredBundy4]

That's not the concept of this game, and some could even argue it was actually somewhat rushed. Keep in mind where Sophia started on the scale of depravity and where she is right now vs. it's only playable day 13! It is meant to "realistically" slow burn into her corruption and, in my opinion, it mainly works.
What doesn't work and keeps sliding is the delivery of updates in real life time.

In other words: if we were at the same pace of development as 6 years ago, you would not be disappointed with the increase of Sophia's kink per unit of time.

That's an important point in this overall discussion of plot and pacing. If you replay it all it becomes clear how the success of the VN made the dev slam on the brakes. It really has a pretty decent climb at the beginning and then it just stops to where we are now isn't that far ahead than it was 5 years ago.

That's the issue. A slow burn isn't bad but no story and no VN dev is so good that it requires the time this dev demands they get. Nobody needs 20 years to tell a dumb porn story and at the pace it began at it would be wrapping up around now.

 

[Alley_Cat]

No blackmail is needed there, IMO.
I'd have had Sam see them for no reason beyond creating a competition between them, even if mostly or totally unspoken...because it already has happened in other moments. It wouldn't be out of character at all for Sam to be snooping in their back yard, especially if he noticed them leave or come home.

Which is a big thing that's lacking in the story, IMO. It rarely gives you moments or scenes that aren't totally insulated to the main people involved. A thing happens until it doesn't anymore and all involved move on as if it never happened at all once done. Again, partly why the day system is ridiculous. It makes each event seem like a lifeless, assembly line action most of the time.

Sam seeing them and both becoming jealous and more determined to push his agenda seems like a normal thing to happen here.
In fact, Sam is pretty much the only character that Sophia could see catching them and not freak out. Sam - probably more than anyone - knows what and who she is. Yes, there is a big jump from fucking the neighbor boy and your own son but Sam and Dylan have already shared enough erotic moments with her to not make that a shock to any of the three.
I'd have the next Sam event show that Sam was in his treehouse and Sophia sees him. When her tits are being sucked, she looks to the left and sees Sam...and Sam sees that she sees him. They then talk about it in their next event or just in quick eye contact the next day.

The only problem with that is it then requires players on the Sam route to be playing the Dylan route as well, which is not always the case. The amount of Sam players that call Dylan a "looser" in this thread should attest to that.

Same as why I don't believe the bonus storyline will have any effect on the Ellie route. So far, whether or not you're playing the Dylan route has only had a superficial effect on her route - a few lines of dialogue about how much she's enjoying the quiet is about the biggest difference I've seen.

Linking routes can be done - the Bikini Fashion show and the Yoga event are examples off the top of my head, but only if the link is entirely optional. But that also requires more renders and will slow down progress. Possibly more hassle than it's worth, especially if L&P has something different in mind later on.

 

[tofhdns]

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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Everything was predictable, but it all makes me sad.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

The only problem with that is it then requires players on the Sam route to be playing the Dylan route as well, which is not always the case. The amount of Sam players that call Dylan a "looser" in this thread should attest to that.

Same as why I don't believe the bonus storyline will have any effect on the Ellie route. So far, whether or not you're playing the Dylan route has only had a superficial effect on her route - a few lines of dialogue about how much she's enjoying the quiet is about the biggest difference I've seen.

Linking routes can be done - the Bikini Fashion show and the Yoga event are examples off the top of my head, but only if the link is entirely optional. But that also requires more renders and will slow down progress. Possibly more hassle than it's worth, especially if L&P has something different in mind later on.

Solid points and I also don't think it'll happen as much as I'm saying I'd probably add that if I were writing the story. It just kinda makes sense to me given their behavior so far.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Solid points and I also don't think it'll happen as much as I'm saying I'd probably add that if I were writing the story. It just kinda makes sense to me given their behavior so far.

Probably more of an opportunity for fan art. I'm slowly but surely identifying all the assets used in-game. Just got my hands on the outfit Ellie wore on Day 2 about an hour ago.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Probably more of an opportunity for fan art. I'm slowly but surely identifying all the assets used in-game. Just got my hands on the outfit Ellie wore on Day 2 about an hour ago.

Awesome! I've noticed you mentioning the asset collection in the FA thread. I really need to find some time to really dig in to DAZ beyond the little I have.
If/when you get it all I'd definitely be down to make some stories within this universe, be it my own or helping others.

 

[tofhdns]

So why does Dylan put his boxers back on? My theory is that the dev needed his dick to angle upward to get the very important effect of spraying his “love juice” up onto Sophia’s torso. He needed Sophia and Dylan standing up so we can see the vivid erotic poses of them kissing and fondling and suckling out of the water. If Dylan had been fully naked then his dick would have pointed straight horizontally, and then his jism would have splashed down harmlessly (unless you were the pool cleaner) into the water, or maybe hit Sophia’s belly/crotch only. But with the tight shorts holding his dick in place pointing skyward, the boy fired nearly straight up like a Roman candle.

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Masturbating while wearing panties is quite difficult.
Even in the image you provided, Dylan's panties are half off.

And since Sophia is holding Dylan's cock, even if there were no panties, Dylan's cock would be pointing upwards.

And I don't think there's much of a difference between Dylan's semen getting on Sophia's breasts and just her stomach.
In terms of meaning.

 

[Lukasz1]

When the counter is reset, it's time to start with a new update

 

[Alley_Cat]

Awesome! I've noticed you mentioning the asset collection in the FA thread. I really need to find some time to really dig in to DAZ beyond the little I have.
If/when you get it all I'd definitely be down to make some stories within this universe, be it my own or helping others.

All is probably impossible. Particularly when it comes to the boys. From about Day 4 onwards L&P appears to use custom textures for much of their clothing, which makes asset identification quite difficult.

But enough to do our own versions of things is definitely doable. Now that we have (I think) a pretty good idea on Aiden, Dre, Zac and Emma, the other students could probably be replaced. It would mean redoing all of the school scenes, but depending on the story it could be worth it.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

When the counter is reset, it's time to start with a new update

Whoa! Not so fast! That way we might get it before year's end!

 

[Looser12n12]

How to play Dylan Sofia event in vo.195 please some one tell the route or gameplay

 

[Alley_Cat]

How to play Dylan Sofia event in vo.195 please some one tell the route or gameplay

v.195 isn't out yet. And isn't a Dylan/Sophia event, it's bonus storyline

 

[Looser12n12]

v.195 isn't out yet. And isn't a Dylan/Sophia event, it's bonus storyline

Sorry in vo.190 Sofia Dylan tub scene and date I can't play that route any idea how to play that

 

[LordLucifer007]

Go to the galary, unlock the content and enjoy it

 

[Bishop Robert]

So, the next update should be... interesting...

Kinda would like to get to the side jobs at this point.

The two following updates after this next one are both apparently short so maybe L&P should just clump them together for one release.

 

[Looser12n12]

Go to the galary, unlock the content and enjoy it

In story how can I play that

 

[Looser12n12]

How can I play this scene can you tell the gameplay or walkthrough please

 

[kimber700]

What if I were L&P, some scenes in the Dylan part 2 would be...

1. In the night club, Dylan brings Sophia the edge of dance floor and pulls down her panties while dancing.
Option to choose that Sophia "stop him" or "do nothing."




Dylan keeps her panties in his pocket for future use (masturbation.)

2. (Option) If Sophia holds Dylan's hand or her panties to stop him, she will take her panties off herself and gives it to Dylan in the rooftop. (maybe more alcohol, Dylan's begging, Sophia's dare and romantic/erotic atmosphere make her panties off herself)


Now, Sophia is in no panties in either options.
(Option to choose) Dylan sniffs and leaks her wet panties in front of her and teases her.

3. They return home with a bottle of wine and seat on the outdoor couch, not in the jacuzzi. This backyard location is relatively safer not be seen in her house. They sit and talk... wine... lay down... erotic... cuddling... kissing... making out...
Sophia's dress is rolled up and her bare ass exposed. Dylan squeezes her ass and Sophia is being excited.

To try stopping him, Sophia caresses his cock and the circumstance elevates to have Sophia gives a hand job to Dylan.

 

[Benson20]

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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Excelent with point 3. I hate Spphia been blackmailed.
Point 4: good. I really don't like Sophia/Sam relationship. Maybe Ellie/Sam

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Next update at christmas then?