Alley_Cat

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Will the next update not have any events with Sofia? Maybe this question has already been asked several times, but keep in mind that it is a very large thread and difficult to find.
It's not at all difficult to find. Just bookmark this post, it will tell you all we know.

And yes, this next update will have little to no Sophia in it. The most we can expect is her saying goodbye to Dylan and Ellie for the evening.
 

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I wonder... Will this only take place if the player choose for Ellie to break up with Logan? :unsure:

I swear I've made every decision that's leading to a dead end in part 02 so far...I'm literally playing every single update that came after Aiden's task via Gallery so not to get the instant "Continued" screen on my actual saves. lol

(Thanks Bibifoc) :LOL:
If you choose to forgive Logan, the scene stops before Christine comforts Ellie, and they go to the restaurant to discuss the party with Dylan. Dylan does say that Ellie is out with Christine during their (Sophia's) time in the jacuzzi, so it's possible.
 
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Actually, you got me wondering who has the ear of the developers. Myself, I would only be tempted to assist the project, but truth be told am too selfish to do so... if I had any part in the project, I would know things ahead of time and spoil my surprise in the game. LOL!

Seriously, one of the problems with the fan following here at F95 is that good ideas get lost in all the noise. If the Developer read every thread, no new content would get done.

Still what I proposed several months ago was a business plan that keeps the rights and control of the game in the hands of the Developer but farms out the work with shares of revenue proportionate to work presented. What I had suggested was that the Developer first focus on all the primary routes and subcontract the lesser ones where before anything was released the Developer would review the content. Basically, the developer would send the script to the subcontractors and as the subs develop content, the subs would forward "rough" product for approval or corrections.

Based on the story lines, routes and possible expansion I thought a total of three teams would be needed. Adding just one other team would help, but I think you would be up to your eyeballs for no pay. Still, it would be a good business move using economy of scale and production time.
 

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Can Dylan fuck Ellie in this update and we'll just move on with Sophia updates only? )
I think Ellie will start showing lust toward Dylan when she starts pounding the alcohol, as I can see things happening when they are getting drunk. Maybe a Spin the bottle game or something like that. I think the best chance for Dylan to have sex this early is probably with Christine. But I would prepare yourself for more teasing.
 
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I think Ellie will start showing lust toward Dylan when she starts pounding the alcohol, as I can see things happening when they are getting drunk. Maybe a Truth or Dare game or something like that. I think the best chance for Dylan to have sex this early is probably with Christine. But I would prepare yourself for more teasing.
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Nope... too vanilla

Actually, what you suggest doesn't support the facts. Its only recently Dylan and Ellie are getting along. If you look back and are keeping score, things are about even between acceptance and hostility between the two. From the start with the car ride to the new house, things were rocky between them. An unlocked door led to a Blue Pill poisoning. Balancing that you have helping fix a computer hack, standing up to old ex-boyfriends' group of friends and a nice chat at the swing and maybe the cigarette incident.

Then there is Ellie herself and her attitudes toward boys. Maybe Ellie isn't really into the bad boys, but certainly has a thing for the popular boys and yes, she like them big and attractive. So Ellie just isn't going to fall for Dylan.

You are going to have to have something seriously dramatic happen between the two to get a true change of heart. Perhaps at a party Ellie suffers a disaster of the first order and Dylan comes to the rescue. Maybe the ex-boyfriend shows up at the party or Ellie and the ex-boyfriend meet some where... Or perhaps Ellie does get drunk, and some "guy" tries to take advantage of her and Ellie resists, but Dylan comes to the rescue.

It's one of the plot problems this game has. The characters are just not in a position to move to the next level of a relationship that seems plausible. If the Developer is going for an Ellie/Dylan route, it's pretty deep in the story to start it now... at least without a major event to shake up the current status quo.
 

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Nope... too vanilla

Actually, what you suggest doesn't support the facts. Its only recently Dylan and Ellie are getting along. If you look back and are keeping score, things are about even between acceptance and hostility between the two. From the start with the car ride to the new house, things were rocky between them. An unlocked door led to a Blue Pill poisoning. Balancing that you have helping fix a computer hack, standing up to old ex-boyfriends' group of friends and a nice chat at the swing and maybe the cigarette incident.

Then there is Ellie herself and her attitudes toward boys. Maybe Ellie isn't really into the bad boys, but certainly has a thing for the popular boys and yes, she like them big and attractive. So Ellie just isn't going to fall for Dylan.

You are going to have to have something seriously dramatic happen between the two to get a true change of heart. Perhaps at a party Ellie suffers a disaster of the first order and Dylan comes to the rescue. Maybe the ex-boyfriend shows up at the party or Ellie and the ex-boyfriend meet some where... Or perhaps Ellie does get drunk, and some "guy" tries to take advantage of her and Ellie resists, but Dylan comes to the rescue.

It's one of the plot problems this game has. The characters are just not in a position to move to the next level of a relationship that seems plausible. If the Developer is going for an Ellie/Dylan route, it's pretty deep in the story to start it now... at least without a major event to shake up the current status quo.
Well that's the thing, things are beginning to happen because they have to start happening. We're kinda in the same place that Game of Thrones was in during season 6, there were a lot of characters that had to get into position for the final season or two, and that required some BIG jumps. Sam, Dylan, and Sophia have already made big jumps in the last 2 PDs, and now it's Ellie's turn. It's especially true because Ellie doesn't get as many scenes as Sam and Dylan, so her character is going to take bigger leaps in each scene so that she keeps pace with Dylan and Sophia.
 

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Well that's the thing, things are beginning to happen because they have to start happening. We're kinda in the same place that Game of Thrones was in during season 6, there were a lot of characters that had to get into position for the final season or two, and that required some BIG jumps. Sam, Dylan, and Sophia have already made big jumps in the last 2 PDs, and now it's Ellie's turn. It's especially true because Ellie doesn't get as many scenes as Sam and Dylan, so her character is going to take bigger leaps in each scene so that she keeps pace with Dylan and Sophia.
By my count Ellie has twice as many scenes as Sam (21 to 10). Her scenes aren't as big, but when Ellie can get Sophia naked in 40 renders, they don't need to be.
 
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Nope... too vanilla

Actually, what you suggest doesn't support the facts. Its only recently Dylan and Ellie are getting along. If you look back and are keeping score, things are about even between acceptance and hostility between the two. From the start with the car ride to the new house, things were rocky between them. An unlocked door led to a Blue Pill poisoning. Balancing that you have helping fix a computer hack, standing up to old ex-boyfriends' group of friends and a nice chat at the swing and maybe the cigarette incident.

Then there is Ellie herself and her attitudes toward boys. Maybe Ellie isn't really into the bad boys, but certainly has a thing for the popular boys and yes, she like them big and attractive. So Ellie just isn't going to fall for Dylan.

You are going to have to have something seriously dramatic happen between the two to get a true change of heart. Perhaps at a party Ellie suffers a disaster of the first order and Dylan comes to the rescue. Maybe the ex-boyfriend shows up at the party or Ellie and the ex-boyfriend meet some where... Or perhaps Ellie does get drunk, and some "guy" tries to take advantage of her and Ellie resists, but Dylan comes to the rescue.

It's one of the plot problems this game has. The characters are just not in a position to move to the next level of a relationship that seems plausible. If the Developer is going for an Ellie/Dylan route, it's pretty deep in the story to start it now... at least without a major event to shake up the current status quo.
What I said does support the facts. If you read the other arcs, the one thing that has happened to lower the guard is alcohol. This has been a recurring theme, and at no point did Sophia find Dylan sexually attracted to other PDs or act on it until event 2, when she was buzzing from the alcohol she consumed during the club, which Ellie seems to be lined up for the same scenario. Also, if you read the text, this isn't supposed to be a "house party" at Christine. It's more of a slumber party because it is supposed to be a girls' night, and Dylan can only come because he said he could bring the alcohol, which is why I can see Ellie's and Christine's friends there. It will probably be 4 or 5 girls and Dylan.

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As you can see, it's a guy around from Christine's comment. If he was going to drop a hint that it was going to be more than one, he should have used quotes around "a guy" in that sentence.

So I'm quite confused about where you're coming up with a house party or party with other people that will cause a "Sophia Jogging Park scene" with Ellie. The only thing that Dylan said to Ellie at the end of the restaurant was that he has a plan to get back at Logan and for Ellie to text Logan's email, and he might tell Ellie about the plan later that evening.
 
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Maybe the better measurement is recent scenes, because it feels like the game has shifted in favor of Sam. Ellie hasn't had a significant scene in literally years.
That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.
 

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That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.
Right, and now she needs to catch back up. Based on recent events, it just feels like Sam is going to have more scenes than Ellie, so when she gets a scene she's going to need to make it count. But that's just a guess on my part.
 

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Right, and now she needs to catch back up. Based on recent events, it just feels like Sam is going to have more scenes than Ellie, so when she gets a scene she's going to need to make it count. But that's just a guess on my part.
With Ellie possibly getting her shot at a sex scene with Sophia on PD16, but Sam having to wait until at least PD20?
 

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I just can't see Ellie being the first on PD16.
Well, the 2nd lesbian sex scene (within the next 4 PDs) seems likely for PD16, and Ellie has "several" events that day, so it seems to at least be a reasonable assumption.

I've always just gone with Patricia on PD15 at the ranch, Ellie on PD16, and Alyssa on PD17, since that's when Zac and Dylan with be busy at football.
 
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