VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[farrah]

Well that's the thing, things are beginning to happen because they have to start happening. We're kinda in the same place that Game of Thrones was in during season 6, there were a lot of characters that had to get into position for the final season or two, and that required some BIG jumps. Sam, Dylan, and Sophia have already made big jumps in the last 2 PDs, and now it's Ellie's turn. It's especially true because Ellie doesn't get as many scenes as Sam and Dylan, so her character is going to take bigger leaps in each scene so that she keeps pace with Dylan and Sophia.

I wouldn't like to see something like season 8 in the future. Despite the similar strong changes in some characters

 

[farrah]

The only thing that Dylan said to Ellie at the end of the restaurant was that he has a plan to get back at Logan and for Ellie to text Logan's email, and he might tell Ellie about the plan later that evening.

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

because it feels like the game has shifted in favor of Sam

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

It looks like after Saturday PD 14, we will probably be coming up with mostly lesbian events from PD 15-19 since it was mentioned that was the PD range for the events. So that's probably a good 10 years of lesbian content right there.

 

[Alley_Cat]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

If you have a look at the requirements to play the bonus storyline, it's entirely possible even if you choose for Sophia to watch Dylan's match. So Sophia doesn't take Ellie to the sauna, and Ellie doesn't meet Logan. So yeah, it's a plot blunder.

 

[hu lover]

If you have a look at the requirements to play the bonus storyline, it's entirely possible even if you choose for Sophia to watch Dylan's match. So Sophia doesn't take Ellie to the sauna, and Ellie doesn't meet Logan. So yeah, it's a plot blunder.

Very good descriptive explanation.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

I don't think Logan will become Ellie's boyfriend in any case. I think it's like the Aiden plot that you have to play it out to move Sophia/Dylan's arc and then reject Aiden. I think it will play out the same way with Dylan/Ellie, where Logan has to be part of it, then you can reject him.


if Ellie_is_with_Logan:
if day19_Dylan_takes_the_blame_for_Ellie:
jump day20_Dylan_with_Ellie_in_backyard

I think it closes out Logan if you choose not to forgive him, and it closes out Dylan if you choose to forgive him.

menu day20_Ellie_decides_forgiving_Logan_or_not:
Ellie/Logan
"Forgive Logan":
e "*Sigh.* I have to think about it."
e "Maybe I'll give him another chance."
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 21
dy "Well... that's your decision. But if I were you, I'd ditch that loser ASAP!"

Dylan/Ellie
"Don't forgive him":
$ day20_Ellie_doesnt_forgive_Logan = True

e "*Sigh.* Yeah, I think I should dump that motherfucker!"
e "He thinks that just because he's good looking and has a big cock, he can do whatever he wants! Fuck him!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Yeah, fuck that dick pirate!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 20
e "Dick pirate *smirk*?"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Well if you don't like dick pirate, what about dickass?"
dy "Or Douchebagguette! Douchenoggin! Cock-juggling thundercunt!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 24
"Ellie had to chuckle."
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Or Cockgobbler! Dickfrog! Douchefuckmcgee! Or just Bieber!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 25
e "*Ha-ha*"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't think Logan will become Ellie's boyfriend in any case. I think it's like the Aiden plot that you have to play it out to move Sophia/Dylan's arc and then reject Aiden. I think it will play out the same way with Dylan/Ellie, where Logan has to be part of it, then you can reject him.


if Ellie_is_with_Logan:
if day19_Dylan_takes_the_blame_for_Ellie:
jump day20_Dylan_with_Ellie_in_backyard

I think it closes out Logan if you choose not to forgive him, and it closes out Dylan if you choose to forgive him.

Any content between Ellie and Dylan will close out anyway when the bonus storyline finishes, at the very latest, PD16.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Any content between Ellie and Dylan will close out anyway when the bonus storyline finishes, at the very latest, PD16.

Do you think it's going to end on PD16??? It's no longer a bonus story. As much as you don't like Dylan, this wave will ride past PD16. You might want to accept that it's now as an alternative story like Dylan/Amber.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Do you think it's going to end on PD16??? It's no longer a bonus story. As much as you don't like Dylan, this wave will ride past PD16. You might want to accept that it's now as an alternative story like Dylan/Amber.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8326698

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8326698

Yes, I know that post well. And I will tell you that it most likely has changed.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes, I know that post well. And I will tell you that it most likely has changed.

But you've got bupkiss to back it up.

Whereas Sam has a better shot at Ellie. Sophia's even been pushing for it on the Ellie route. Don't like Sam as much as I don't like Dylan, but I'll still accept evidence when it's presented.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

But you've got bupkiss to back it up.

Whereas Sam has a better shot at Ellie. Sophia's even been pushing for it on the Ellie route. Don't like Sam as much as I don't like Dylan, but I'll still accept evidence when it's presented.

How do you know what I have and don't have? Or what I am willing to share and not willing to share? Honestly, you have no clue.

 

[Deleted member 5148089]

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Actually, you got me wondering who has the ear of the developers. Myself, I would only be tempted to assist the project, but truth be told am too selfish to do so... if I had any part in the project, I would know things ahead of time and spoil my surprise in the game. LOL!

Seriously, one of the problems with the fan following here at F95 is that good ideas get lost in all the noise. If the Developer read every thread, no new content would get done.

Still what I proposed several months ago was a business plan that keeps the rights and control of the game in the hands of the Developer but farms out the work with shares of revenue proportionate to work presented. What I had suggested was that the Developer first focus on all the primary routes and subcontract the lesser ones where before anything was released the Developer would review the content. Basically, the developer would send the script to the subcontractors and as the subs develop content, the subs would forward "rough" product for approval or corrections.

Based on the story lines, routes and possible expansion I thought a total of three teams would be needed. Adding just one other team would help, but I think you would be up to your eyeballs for no pay. Still, it would be a good business move using economy of scale and production time.

To me the story is fine and development team whatever they have developed so far images and script wise is good...
What this game miss is scenes and time period that takes too long ...We all know it might take a month to develop a proper update..bigger the team, slower the update will come.. if one is on holiday, work will stop.. they're making it more and more irritating tease story with time if I consider it as adult novel. No sex scene of sophia even after 5 years and 8gb of development beside first part with her husband...and backlash where she lost her virginity is also pic instead of animation. So now i even stop considering it as 18+ kinetic visual gameplay novel ..its just like normal drama story going on for 5 years. Even Kate Winslet had more sex scene in any of her movies than sophia in this game

 

[Galaktur]

To me the story is fine and development team whatever they have developed so far images and script wise is good...
What this game miss is scenes and time period that takes too long ...We all know it might take a month to develop a proper update..bigger the team, slower the update will come.. if one is on holiday, work will stop.. they're making it more and more irritating tease story with time if I consider it as adult novel. No sex scene of sophia even after 5 years and 8gb of development beside first part with her husband...and backlash where she lost her virginity is also pic instead of animation. So now i even stop considering it as 18+ kinetic visual gameplay novel ..its just like normal drama story going on for 5 years. Even Kate Winslet had more sex scene in any of her movies than sophia in this game

There is no team. She was offered help in developing the game. she refused everyone. they are all unworthy of her.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

When did Logan get minions? Fellow arsehole friends sure, but minions? Is Logan a member of a gang like Aiden, that isn't explained in the Ellie route?

"This is one of several options to support Ellie when she is being bothered by some of Logan's minions and Dylan acts like her boyfriend to keep the trash away from Ellie."

Logan is a Singular asshole who thinks with his dick.

He is an Alpha male for his group of buddies, and I see them as little more than his minions.

They are hardly a gang or organized as such, but in RL, I've run into these types of guys before - for example, a group of 4/5 guys with an obvious leader and I always saw them as minions and sycophants, waiting for the leader to decide what was or was not important.

His 'minions' would never hit on Ellie while she was with Logan.

Now that she is not (I've done everything I can to break up Ellie from Logan in my playthrough - not that I'll see meaningful story changes for years in RL), the minions feel free to take their shots.

Cheers!

 

[XaGnard]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8326698

It would really be a lost opportunity if L&P didn't continue the story between Dylan and Ellie and ultimately bring it together with Sophia. In my opinion, this is where the greatest potential for the game lies.

 

[HappyNuts]

Next Update highlights: new Hairstyles for 2 chicks...... Cmon, really? I rather want to push my fingers into my eyes, instead of seeing this nonsense.

Instead of making real progress in the story, resources are wasted. And the development time is unnecessarily extended.

 

[hzjujk]

It would really be a lost opportunity if L&P didn't continue the story between Dylan and Ellie and ultimately bring it together with Sophia. In my opinion, this is where the greatest potential for the game lies.

At the moment we know less about the further progress in history than we did a year ago. At the moment, things are in such a state of flux that all speculations about history based on earlier statements by L&P are outdated. In addition, as far as the logical structure of the story is concerned, L&P considers quite different things important than many members in this thread.
L&P has just separated the Dylan/Sophia and Dylan/Elli route with the 0.190 update. Perhaps there is a joint event on the cDylan route of Sophia/Elli and Dylan as passive observers. But I don't believe in more than that.
But as written at the beginning, I think we can only speculate after the release of the Steam version, so no earlier than the middle of next year, how it goes on, if there is then AWAM still.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Let me be the first to say that I didn't seriously play this scene because Dylan/Ellie wasn't a priority for me.

However, this image of a brother kissing his sister cannot be "a brother running cover for his sister."
Even if Dylan said so.

And how would I describe that scene without the word “date”?
interview?
stalker?
meeting?

“Dating” is a popular and universal word.

Cheers!!

Here is part of the scene leading up to the diner visit - Christine has just shown up to try to cheer up Ellie once she found out about Logan cheating on her:





Christine invites Dylan to join she and Ellie at the diner.



You can call it a date, but Ellie disagrees with you:







Now - as for running cover for Ellie...









That is just about a perfect visual for a guy running cover for a woman, in this case Dylan pretending to be Ellie's new boyfriend.

Cheers!!

 

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