hmc15

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The point is to tell the story of this game, which is clearly not just about Sophia, but about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother". Therefore, it can be important to show decisive developments outside of sophia's direct involvement, if these could ultimately have a effect back on her. For example, if something happens between Dylan and Ellie, then that is something that can affect Sophia, because she is the mother of this two, I hope you understand that connection.

Anyway, I recently re-watched the movie "The Godfather" again. Probably one of the best movies of all time. And shall I tell you what I have noticed? No one would be so simple-minded as to conclude from the title alone that all scenes contain in this movie must have a direct participation of Michael Corleone. That would only have unnecessarily restricted the film.

BTW, L&P has already described in its game description that there can be events written from a different perspective other than Sophia in this game. Considering how popular the story about Dylan and Ellie is, I see no reason to cut back here. Rather, L&P should consider expanding these types of events.
The title of the game is A wife and Mother. The title is not A Brother and Sister or A Boy and a Girl.

Every update should revolve around Sophia.
 

palmtrees89

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whats the next update about? next day morning? If I remember correctly ongoing day ended on last update
Next update is the last or second to last update for the current ongoing day, which has been in development for almost 2 years now. It's a Dylan PoV update, and Sophia doesn't play a role in it. It's the alternative to the past two Sophia+Dylan updates, ending the current day. Dylan is going to a party, and it apparently also involves Ellie and some other characters.

I'm not quite sure if L&P has decided to cut the Dylan+Emma route, but if not, there's another update after that to finally conclude PD13.
 

jamdan

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There is no problem with this event. Dylan and Ellie are probably the most important characters besides Sophia in this game. The story between the two of them and Sophia unfolds from the introduction to the present. Both in direct interaction with Sophia and in interaction between the two.

Also, I don't see it as tragic that Dylan has to choose between the second Sophia event and Ellie. The first Sophia event has already taken place and Dylan has already made progress with Sophia in the first update, which could ultimately have an effect on possible Sophia/Dylan/Ellie events. I at least would like it if L&P would include more events like that. That is what AWAM is about from my point of view.

Under no circumstances should this event be cut out. The events with Dylan and Ellie are just too good for that. There are good reasons why the two are so popular, and good reasons why this story-line has so much potential.

1st part: Yes, Dylan and Ellie are important characters. However, Ellie goes to this party regardless of Sophia/Dylan's date. So, why do we not use Ellie POV at the party instead, since she is there with or without Dylan? If the party is so important that is. The fact we do not have this event regardless tells me that it isn't very important, or else it wouldn't be optional behind a route hardly anyone is playing.

Dylan & Ellie have more than enough chances to interact with each other outside of parties. They live together. Especially since this party has at least a few other characters (more branching) that doesn't have to do with their relationship or Sophia.


2nd part: This game relies on points & certain choices to get paths. It is very unlikely if not impossible that the Dylan/Sophia path can continue if they didn't go on a date. One path where they did go on the date (the handjob, cum on body, kissing etc.) and one where that didn't happen? Think about the complexity of that.

For an example, see how many "correct" choices had to be made to get Sophia in the bathtub topless. Now figure out a way for Sophia to get topless without all those "correct" choices being previously made.


3rd part: The Dylan & Ellie events are popular because they generally involve Sophia.


At best, this will lead to more complicated branching. And at worst, not be important at all. Or maybe that's reversed since the last thing this game needs is more complicated branching.


So my overall point still stands. LP has to make some sacrifices if he wants to complete this game. Is a party with Dylan/Ellie potentially interesting? Sure. But not interesting enough to create another half-dozen variables and side-routes to account for it.
 
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My game is a choice-based visual novel, where you take the role of Sophia Parker, a happily married middle-aged woman and mother of a son and daughter. Due to her husband’s new job offer she just moved with her family from their sleepy, cold, small town to San Alejo, a hot megacity by the sea. And not only the city is bigger but also their new house and backyard.
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Everyday in this thread:

- What’s next?
Can we pin to extras of the first post (quoted here) THIS so that this question is not repeated again?

- Complains for the game
Unfortunately to change this game you should pay 1.5 € or 2.0 $ on L&P Patreon page and be vocal on his public announcements. With 1,700 patrons paying on average per month 6 euros I don’t think he will ever give a damn on your opinion and change anything…

- How can I play this update?
The game itself on the bottom left hand side corner has a link to the official walkthrough. This is normally updated 1 week after the release of the game.

- No sex complain!
Please bear in mind that you will not see a proper sex scene for at least 6-10 years from now… The more you complain the bluer your balls become :p

- Proper sex scene…
People expect to see Sophia and an adult male other than her husband. It is highly unlikely that to happen… If you are not into incest, teenage boys fucking Sophia & lesbian you’d better watch some porn :cool:

- Technical issues
Well, imho this should be one of the basic topics that is discussed here and if a question is repeated in different forms the answer should be pinned somewhere…

PS: there are some rare occasions when Dr.Fapalot shares some insider information that I’m missing because of the above issues… or some good analysis from xxxorro that is worth reading cause he always references the most important posts from this thread…
 
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Uncas Leaf

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Reading about the Dylan Handjob but it just doesn't happen for me, we get the option to tease by removing panties, after that he talks about Mick the photographer, and then it all ends, nothing happens. What am I missing?
 

Ranxerox

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Everyday in this thread:

- What’s next?
Can we pin to extras of the first post (quoted here) THIS so that this question is not repeated again?

- Complains for the game
Unfortunately to change this game you should pay 1.5 € or 2.0 $ on L&P Patreon page and be vocal on his public announcements. With 1,700 patrons paying on average per month 6 euros I don’t think he will ever give a damn on your opinion and change anything…

- How can I play this update?
The game itself on the bottom left hand side corner has a link to the official walkthrough. This is normally updated 1 week after the release of the game.

- No sex complain!
Please bear in mind that you will not see a proper sex scene for at least 6-10 years from now… The more you complain the bluer your balls become :p

- Proper sex scene…
People expect to see Sophia and an adult male other than her husband. It is highly unlikely that to happen… If you are not into incest, teenage boys fucking Sophia & lesbian you’d better watch some porn :cool:

- Technical issues
Well, imho this should be one of the basic topics that is discussed here and if a question is repeated in different forms the answer should be pinned somewhere…

PS: there are some rare occasions when Dr.Fapalot shares some insider information that I’m missing because of the above issues… or some good analysis from xxxorro that is worth reading cause he always references the most important posts from this thread…
BRAVO.!!
This should be pinned to the OP and repeated every 10 or 20 pages from then on (because most people don't bother to read back on the thread).
 

Bibifoc

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Reading about the Dylan Handjob but it just doesn't happen for me, we get the option to tease by removing panties, after that he talks about Mick the photographer, and then it all ends, nothing happens. What am I missing?
Did you make Dylan to answer aggressively to the guys who talk to Sophia in the club? (Dylan needs to have learned self-defense first)
 
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cjcjcc

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Reading about the Dylan Handjob but it just doesn't happen for me, we get the option to tease by removing panties, after that he talks about Mick the photographer, and then it all ends, nothing happens. What am I missing?
use this save file you will see all scene in last update!
 
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Ranxerox

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Reading about the Dylan Handjob but it just doesn't happen for me, we get the option to tease by removing panties, after that he talks about Mick the photographer, and then it all ends, nothing happens. What am I missing?
It depends on a few decisions taken before.. one should be confronting the guys at the club.
 
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