VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Radoslaw Wolf]

holy shit 10% annimations!!!

You think it's an entire second, or still milliseconds?

 

[palmtrees89]

Animation is obviously introduced in part 2 of this update and obviously it will be a kiss, a hj/bj or actual intercourse. IMHO in this update we should see the first of the 2 announced hetero sex scenes. Most likely it will be between Dylan and Christine… If that’s so we should expect Ellie getting deflowered in PD16

Well, wouldn't that be something. I mean, Dylan has already gotten more action the past few months than Sophia in 6 years of development. A Wife and Mother, by the way.

But yeah, as some others already mentioned, this shouldn't be happening. Atleast not according to plan. But ay, what do I know. L&P's plans are like farts in the wind.

 

[jackdiddley]

An animator hired by L&P started working

It will probably be an animation of "spin the bottle". And by that I mean just a bottle spinning. Unfortunately, it will add 3 months to the release date...

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

Always used to wonder, how dumb people can be to support wicked politicians despite knowing they are up to no good for them or their country, then I came across this game. Turns out people can be really dumb if they like something. Like they throw rationality out of the window even if the thing they support harms them. How this game is still going on is something I will never understand.

 

[RK - Milf]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

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[Couto25]

There will be no "intercourse" up until PD15 and that's gonna be during Sophia/Patricia event, here's the info from almost a 2 years old post. I ain't closely follow this thread lately, maybe L&P mentioned somewhere about changing his plans and accelerating process altogether. But I highly doubt that this story arc surpasses previous jacuzzi event all of a sudden. Unless he brushes off "unimportant" side stories, pushing pedal to the metal with Sophia/Dylan/Ellie storylines.

I should have found this game after pd 15

 

[lockerxx]

You think it's an entire second, or still milliseconds?

2 hours .

 

[McZoy]

You think it's an entire second, or still milliseconds?

Gravity curves spacetime.

 

[el diablo rojo]

There will be no "intercourse" up until PD15 and that's gonna be during Sophia/Patricia event, here's the info from almost a 2 years old post. I ain't closely follow this thread lately, maybe L&P mentioned somewhere about changing his plans and accelerating process altogether. But I highly doubt that this story arc surpasses previous jacuzzi event all of a sudden. Unless he brushes off "unimportant" side stories, pushing pedal to the metal with Sophia/Dylan/Ellie storylines.

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Gravity curves spacetime.

 

[admigold]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

And this?

 

[Couto25]

And this?
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sometimes I don;t understand if ana is so much corrupted for handjobs, why she is not giving handjob to any man her age at work, at home at gym but she's ready to give handjob to all kids she know for few days after tutoring lol like it's her job.

 

[Couto25]

Because thats her fetish? The same thing as some of us have, for example for milfs, incest and so on.

Plus if you imagine this in real life. If she jerked off to men her age right at work, it would definitely have a negative impact on her work itself. Rumors, gossip, bullying. In addition to this, there would definitely be a man for whom this would not be enough, and then she herself would be sexually harassed and most likely fucked.

there were several times when she was with her hubby friend drunk and didnt allowed him to take advantage not upto handjob. she went on the date with a teacher for bullying case than also she didnt gave her handjob, just giving him her panties..bar guys where she went with patricia but didnt gave him handjob even after being drunk ....but tutoring kids lol 3rd day handjob. Lol. to me it's like more of a fetish of LP with sophia.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

I should have found this game after pd 15

After PD19… but this is 10 years from now and I will be a grandpa… so no time for AWAM, focus will be elsewhere.

 

[ancienregimele]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

I have to disagree. There's Mr. Murray for the Summer/Winter age fetish, (he can always bring a friend for the 2 old men's potential spit roast event) & there's around 20 teenagers to provide "shota lite" activity. Those kids in the 2nd side job are just that ...kids. Both jobs could go without any major impact on the game. We know that the 2nd side job is included because it's the Dev's favourite fetish.

I completely agree, however, that giving Dylan his first HJ was totally unrealistic, before Sophia had done this with anyone else outside of marriage. L&P no longer cares about believability. That whole night club event was an exercise in schoolboy & M/S fan wish fulfilment, as the pair paraded their incestuous relationship in public. They went out of their way to draw attention to themselves. This is not what happens in cases of RL incest, unless the participants have some weird agenda. "Realism & class," (the Dev's words), were removed years ago. 'Dylan fans must be prioritised' is the only yardstick to which L&P adheres these days, because Dylan is the real MC & can do anything.

Now, throughout AWAM we have 'porn logic,' signifying no logic at all. This even extended to Dylan threatening 2 fit clubbers on his first visit to a nightclub, while he remained seated. He has had a martial arts lesson, of course. So, in RL he could well have been tipped off the floor he was on, because in RL you don't threaten anyone while sitting down, especially if there's more than one. That is, unless you're the Godfather, or maybe Hans Stavro Blofeldt + his cat.

Sophia's noticeable regression to the mindset of a 15 year old has taken away the standard barriers to further random events. She won't think very hard about consequences, especially if a teen recites a string of oily complements like a ticker tape machine. Even 15 year old girls wouldn't be particularly impressed by such transparency but the reason it works for Sam & Dylan is again, porn logic. She's supposed to be so corrupted, she's become a different person, which she has, both mentally & physically, along with Dylan of course.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

I really want to be bitchy, but I'm going to try and be an adult.

The vast majority of people who are left in this thread are not here looking for a quick fuck. Everyone understands the slow burn natures of this game. But that slow burn has gotten out of control. I don't think you'll get much argument here that the side jobs aren't important. I think the second side job is gross as hell and broke the game, but that's a different conversation. The argument, instead, is that something has to give. We're on pace for a 30 year development cycle. That means that the game is never going to advance in a meaningful way unless cuts are made. Painful cuts. The low hanging fruit like Bennett's storyline have already been cut. Now we need to start getting into more painful cuts because they impact development time to a higher degree. Would it have made more sense to build up to Dylan slowly? Yeah, for sure. But that would require focusing on side characters that no one cares about because he hasn't done a good job of developing them. No one wants to play 2 or 3 updates a year that focus on characters that we haven't seen in 2 years.

But really, nothing is going to matter until L&P starts producing a new update every 4 to 6 weeks. Until he can start pumping out updates at a reasonable rate, there's no chance that this game is completed in the way he originally envisioned.

 

[Couto25]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

Well well well, if there's a whole development team than can manage to provide timely update even after side story, it can be acceptable. Tease is important to set the scenario on sexual attraction or corruption path, everyone understands it. But if corruption path is slow like a snail where LP show handjob after 6 years than it's bullshit. And that too to handjob to kids. Sophia got corrupted with many other characters but the main story got diverted so much that characters those who corrupted Sophia , they're not taking advantage of her corruption but kids who don't even corrupt Sophia, they're getting handjob.
And again just saying if lots of people think that way than they are probably correct, yea 10% of people might think that continue with side story and tease for 10 more years. But if 90% of people are thinking than there's seriously something wrong with the game. Don't you think that? If 90% of people doesn't agree with your opinion, you might be wrong? Only Sam story is believable, rest Dylan and tutoring kids handjob story before getting corrupted by other characters are unbelievable.

 

[abram1]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

Dude, duuude, a lot of us are hoping this VN to be finished and not abandoned one day, that's a tid bit different from what you've implied after having read my post.

And, please, don't mention anything about some kind of a "bigger picture", MC's corruption etc. We're in a 7th year development of AWAM already, that's preposterous compared to anything you'll find on F95. I'll tell you more. If the Dev himself finally realised that something has to be done, that his VN walking on a slippery slope and stagnating, having an unimagable potential, he gotta start chopping off his own creation in order to complete it someday.

Final thought. Realism. You gotta be fucking kidding me. None of those VN's out here has nothing to do with reality. All of them fulfilling sundry fetishes/sultry desires of their devs/audience. Believability of AWAM had been thrown out of the window long time ago. For some with everchanging Sophia's titties, for others - with introducing religious family. All of us has it's own gripe with this VN. Getting rid of the most irrelevant storylines is the first sign of L&P taking drastic measures to course correct his own Titanic.

 

[DarkShadow29]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

I was here for porn game with story. Not for extended emotional sexless drama crap I can say that's all. This game has only crap, even if I go out in a nude beach, I get to see more boobs than Sophia has showed in last 5 years lol.
I don't think that this game should be categorised as adult VN until it introduce some sex scene..I am enjoying so many different games rather than this and I have - (negative) 200 expectations from LP on the upcoming update. And I am 500 % sure that the upcoming update will disappoint Sophia's fans. Even if Dylan have sex with all 4 girls of the party , the upcoming update will be a disappointment. Because personally, I don't even count Dylan as an MC.

 

[moovigym]

Lots of you think that the side stories are unimportant but you are wrong, they are important. I understand that a lot of you just want to see Sophia start fucking and I get it, but you need to think of the big picture and of Sophia's gradual corruption. If Sophia was a real person, in real life, would she find it easier to have sex or engage in sexual activity with someone that she will continue to see as part of her life or would it be easier to engage in sexual activity with someone that she will never see again and won't have to worry about ruining her life? Side characters are like a gateway drug to harder things. Personally, I think that the Dylan hand job was a big mistake by the developer. It's just too unbelievable. A mom giving her own son a hand job? The Dev should have focused that first step on a side job or side character first before pushing the i*cest boundary. For example, it's much more believable that Sophia would have stroked off the old gents in the nursing home before Dylan. It adds to her corruption. In life there are consequences and the reason people cheat or experiment when they have husbands or families is that they won't get caught. Sophia should be doing these things on the side first before cheating with characters who are central to her life. It would make the story more believable IMHO.

Yeah.. when we value and make assessments, our own criteria can be different.
But it should not be forgotten that this problem stems from L&P's plan and speed of development.
If L&P develops every single side story as planned on its own, how long will we wait until the end of this game?
Eventually, it became a physical problem of time and space, not an individual's likes or dislikes