Christ and make everyone wait, including patreons, 6 months or more for updates? That's sadistic.
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In the LP's words...
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If it is true that game development is its only financial mainstay, L&P has settled into its position very well. In my estimation, the amount he collects every month before taxes will be around 15,000 euros. That's not enough to hire a good graphic designer, but to be able to make a good living from it.
Accusing someone who runs a one-man business of paying attention to their bottom line is just nonsense. Likewise, it is nonsense to accuse someone of profit optimization. Profit optimization through, for example, more effective work processes or by trying to open up new sources of income with the same product. This is a characteristic of capitalism and the free market economy. You always have to keep this in mind when making your judgments, L&P plays this game first and foremost for themselves. To be able to make a living from it and to do something that they enjoy.
Nevertheless, there is still a bad aftertaste when you look at the current pace of development and it is at least credible that he is already working on revising the entire previous story in order to be able to sell the game on Steam. The fact that some of his supporters then feel betrayed is understandable in this context. You've probably supported L&P for years, precisely for the content it has delivered so far, and now you have to worry about getting a completely new game, with a different, softened (Steam compliant) story and with customized virtual characters. In addition, many of them will now have the feeling that they are not only supporting L&P for the game but are also paying him to optimize profits. For a product that most of them don't want in its new form.
It is also bitter if the rumors are true that after the release on Steam, L&P plans to hire people to help with development and make a faster release cycle possible. Suddenly something should be possible that hasn't been possible for all these years? Although, as I wrote above, a permanent position as a graphic designer is a costly and risky thing.
But I would like to point out one more thing. All of my comments are based solely on guesswork and L&P's vague statements about the future of the game. They may be well-founded and reflect common sense, but they are largely speculation.
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in fact it seems like one of his usual bullshit;
the move to Steam should happen when the game is completed, so that the necessary changes (incest, minors, etc.) are made without consequences on development given that the game is finished.
Doing this while running means:
1- L&P stops to adapt all the work done so far. (so we'll never see the end)
2- hire someone who makes changes to the game only after L&P has created the "main" game
3- L&P doesn't give a shit about what happens, since its monthly earnings are pretty solid.
if I were L&P I would opt for 3
- May 23, 2017
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it,s all just deception and fooling around.Oops, the "helper" slacking again
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How much stupid and pointless update is waiting for us), are the people who donate money to him happy with it ?, is it really so important for the plot to show the whole events of Dylan, spending a huge amount of time on this
2020 I was his patreon, now the right decision for me was to stop supporting him.
It literally amazes me that he spends a huge amount of time on this, it's a porn game after all, not a TV series), I don't think there's a single person who waits for Dylan instead of eventing with Sophia.
When he did a separate event where Sofia gets a haircut, I realized I couldn't take it seriously.
2020 I was his patreon, now the right decision for me was to stop supporting him.
It literally amazes me that he spends a huge amount of time on this, it's a porn game after all, not a TV series), I don't think there's a single person who waits for Dylan instead of eventing with Sophia.
When he did a separate event where Sofia gets a haircut, I realized I couldn't take it seriously.
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I'd say he mutilated them
, they look like teenagers with the skin of a 30-year-old man.and behave the same way, one scene Dylan's a boy the next he's an alpha male mma fighter.
This creates a contradiction in the narrative, and the perception of the story even on a pornographic level
That's because of lack of relief with Sophia. In the next updates we will find out that the two old guys are Dylan and Sam in realityI'd say he mutilated them
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Well, with all the bullshit going on in the script, I'm willing to believe it's canon.That's because of lack of relief with Sophia. In the next updates we will find out that the two old guys are Dylan and Sam in reality
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Haven't we all..? It's been six years after all
- Jun 11, 2018
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Bro that's the lamest excuse I've read, L&P didn't start making that amount of money yesterday. He's been making that amount of money and dare I say more for over 2 years.
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I don't like it either, because what kind of idiot would you have to be to spend a bunch of time on it and then cut it out), so no one got a plus from it.
Those people who didn't get any content from it, for example, initially, if it wasn't there, it could have been given attention, like the lesbian, the daughter, Ellie's friends.
Then if you take these events with the apostles, the idea is cool, the realization is ridiculous, the only thing that could have been realized within this plot is blackmail, and make them the second bad guys of the plot, what if Sophia is not their first victim, and Ava for example has a bdsm fetish, and indulges them, I think it would have been 100 more interesting and logical than the scene where Sophia just starts touching the disciples' dicks.
And that's why it should have been cut from the beginning and not waste time, spend it on other characters.
I can even basically say that all these events could have been realized within a separate story, for example, just Sophia's adventures (call it that), and within it just make mini-stories consisting of 3 events.
For example, Sophia the trainer.
I would by the way look at a separate game about Sophia for example vacation in an exotic country
- Nov 1, 2017
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you might be right about it being an excuse but it's actually not as far-fetched as you think.
all this help people want L&P to hire doesn't come cheap and would cut into profits AWAM makes.
Also, on top of that, if L&P actually does buy every single 3D model he uses and doesn't just download them freely. Well, that is not cheap either, it costs up to $125 just for one model with clothing and hair, something you definitely need for models.
Then take into consideration the amount of models used in AWAM, which is a lot of money just going into the models, and that doesn't even include the assets used to make the locations we see in AWAM.
Now I can't guarantee L&P has bought every single Daz asset he uses, there is no way to really know for certain if L&P did or didn't buy all the assets. If he did, then it severely cuts into any profits and if you want to be legally free to put AWAM on steam, then buying all the Daz assets is something you need to do.
You can buy models separately without hair or clothing assets included, but you still need hair and clothing assets for the model at some point, so you still have to buy them.
People might actually be surprised by how much money L&P has potentially spent on making AWAM.
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Even if he has paid for all models and assets,all that is not even close to what he is making in a single month.
Right now one update is taking almost same time as 3 years ago.
Mind you,the updates back then was covering half day,now just one event.
Not only we are getting fewer number of events per year,but also the number of renders is decreasing.
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That's good info to have, I may not be a dev therefore I don't know how much money one needs to spend each month, but in the case of L&P his income can increase as he hires more people. Having more employees leads to more games, more games attract more supporters, this has been proven by many developers over the years. If he took a financial risk for lets say six months by hiring more people and creating games of AWAM quality in different genres, success would likely follow. But we all know he doesn't want to do that because he prefers to keep most of the profits. I find it funny that developers of adult games are the only ones who go against every business model, once they start making money, don't want to invest that money back into their projects, like what's up with that?