VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

Your comment is as stupid as the idiots who say that just a son looking at his mother's breasts is incest.
(I brought up the legalese for this and hope this debate doesn't happen again)

Dylan's Viagra was causing him physical problems and he couldn't do anything about it.
So Sophia had no choice but to help him.

And Sophia was clearly furious.
Is this corruption?

And why didn't you tell me about the fight in the car? Explain this too!
You said that this also corrupted Sophia.

And sometimes, don't laugh while talking.
I "kindly" let you know that sometimes it can be evidence of a state of mind in which you yourself are not sure of what you are saying.

The point is that because of the experience, she is probably more prepared to do something more than she would have been without this event. It's practically the concept of this game other games with corruption to see how far she's willing to go and to exend on that. Whether it is their own desire, compassion or compulsion (as with Aiden's tasks, for example) is irrelevant.

The argument between Ellie and Dylan in the car is part of the story. Sopia is in the role of a mother here.That has nothing to do with curupption, and I did not claim that. However, this event display the basis from which the three come. Ellie has, even at that point, realized what Dylan is after, but Sophia hasn't yet.A lot has happened since then and if you look at the previews for the next update, Ellie is now even prepared to show something in order to win the game. Here, too, we have seen a development over the course of the game, e.g. via the event with the laptop or in the dinner. It remains to be seen what all this will lead to, as more than half of the game days have not yet been created.The decisive factor is that the story is now generally picking up speed, even if everything is still too slow in my opinion.I also think it is quite likely that Sophia will notice something of the development in a subsequent update.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

We'll have to change the name of the game))) For example, the tenant's wife))))

Or “the land lady & her wine”

 

[tofhdns]

The point is that because of the experience, she is probably more prepared to do something more than she would have been without this event. It's practically the concept of this game other games with corruption to see how far she's willing to go and to exend on that. Whether it is their own desire, compassion or compulsion (as with Aiden's tasks, for example) is irrelevant.

The argument between Ellie and Dylan in the car is part of the story. Sopia is in the role of a mother here.That has nothing to do with curupption, and I did not claim that. However, this event display the basis from which the three come. Ellie has, even at that point, realized what Dylan is after, but Sophia hasn't yet.A lot has happened since then and if you look at the previews for the next update, Ellie is now even prepared to show something in order to win the game. Here, too, we have seen a development over the course of the game, e.g. via the event with the laptop or in the dinner. It remains to be seen what all this will lead to, as more than half of the game days have not yet been created.The decisive factor is that the story is now generally picking up speed, even if everything is still too slow in my opinion.I also think it is quite likely that Sophia will notice something of the development in a subsequent update.

First, I said that the only time Dylan and Ellie corrupt Sofia is when they are with Sofia.

The incident in the car and the Viagra incident you mentioned are not the individual stories you mentioned and are better suited to the "when they are with Sofia" I mentioned.

Second, when you said "Ellie has, even at that point, realized what Dylan is after, but Sophia hasn't yet", how does that become Sophia's corruption if she doesn't know it?

In a hospital, if a nurse removes a patient's pubic hair to prepare for surgery, does it constitute corruption?

Third, you say that everything becomes the basis for later events.
(But you can't say what the case is. No one knows)

So, are the flight attendant's actions on the plane also the starting point of the Parker family's downfall?

So, will the meeting between Sophia and Harris be the beginning of the downfall of the Harris family in the distant future?

Maybe your birth was the decisive factor in the creation of this game. that's right?

A clear point of corruption must be presented.
When people talk that way like you do, they can make up anything.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I really miss Sophia and Ellie's interactions

At least this shitshow of a day is almost over, even if we need to wait a while for PD14 to start.

I wonder if I'll be able to get my fan art game released before then.

 

[XaGnard]

First, I said that the only time Dylan and Ellie corrupt Sofia is when they are with Sofia.

The incident in the car and the Viagra incident you mentioned are not the individual stories you mentioned and are better suited to the "when they are with Sofia" I mentioned.

Second, when you said "Ellie has, even at that point, realized what Dylan is after, but Sophia hasn't yet", how does that become Sophia's corruption if she doesn't know it?

In a hospital, if a nurse removes a patient's pubic hair to prepare for surgery, does it constitute corruption?

Third, you say that everything becomes the basis for later events.
(But you can't say what the case is. No one knows)

So, are the flight attendant's actions on the plane also the starting point of the Parker family's downfall?

So, will the meeting between Sophia and Harris be the beginning of the downfall of the Harris family in the distant future?

Maybe your birth was the decisive factor in the creation of this game. that's right?

A clear point of corruption must be presented.
When people talk that way like you do, they can make up anything.

Between Dylan and Ellie, there are individual events and events with Sophia. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It's highly likely that after the current event without Sophia, there will be an event with Sophia included in which she notices a change for some reason and perhaps investigates ... This would be storytelling at its best, as entanglements are possible.

The rest of your reply is so pathetic that I won't bother replying.If you don't have an argument, then just say so, we don't need to continue this discussion.

 

[tofhdns]

Between Dylan and Ellie, there are individual events and events with Sophia. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It's highly likely that after the current event without Sophia, there will be an event with Sophia included in which she notices a change for some reason and perhaps investigates ... This would be storytelling at its best, as entanglements are possible.

The rest of your reply is so pathetic that I won't bother replying.If you don't have an argument, then just say so, we don't need to continue this discussion.

Is it impossible to have a long conversation?

I said that Dylan/Christine and Dylan/Amy are separate stories and have nothing to do with Sophia's corruption.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Still having a hard time believing that animations will be done in 2 days. Also, if what you said is true and animation progress is connected to CS+RS in a sense that he can only progress animations when the scenes are created to that point, does that mean the update is ending on an animation? I mean, considering your theory and seeing how animations are moving much faster now, that should theoretically be the case, no?

But I highly doubt it, and so my theory is that L&P spends way more time on animation work now that he's done with scene creation is all. Playing catch-up, basically. Previous updates have shown that animation progress hasn't really much to do with CS+RS progress, atleast not in the way your (and others) theory would explain it.

As for the Programming&Translation part, I'd think it'll take longer than 8 days as this update has 700+ renders, and back in 2021 when he'd still release 1/3rd PD's with 700-900 renders, P&T would take him like 2-3 weeks if I remember correctly. Anyway, it's all speculation in the end as nobody really knows what's going on behind closed curtains, but I'd say you're not THAT far off unless he's vanishing for Christmas / New Years holidays, which is very possible.

Honestly I don’t know what he’s actually doing and if this progress update is real! I just extrapolate what I’ve seen so far. It was his statement saying that first he brings CS+RS to a specific point and after add animation. Maybe you are right about Coding & Translation.

Realistically speaking I see him taking the Christmas week off as well as the week following Christmas week…

My optimistic prediction says 14/1
My realistic prediction says 28/1
My f* up prediction says 28/2…

 

[XaGnard]

Is it impossible to have a long conversation?

I said that Dylan/Christine and Dylan/Amy are separate stories and have nothing to do with Sophia's corruption.

Only if you have arguments.I'm trying to explain my view of things to you, and you have to do the same, otherwise there's no point. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. You're not going to dissuade me from thinking that the game works well, for the most part. The problem is not the content, but the far too slow development.

 

[tofhdns]

Only if you have arguments.I'm trying to explain my view of things to you, and you have to do the same, otherwise there's no point. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. You're not going to dissuade me from thinking that the game works well, for the most part. The problem is not the content, but the far too slow development.

What on earth have I explained so far?

You are claiming situations that never occurred in the game and denying my explanation of situations that are occurring in the game.

And you say it will happen in the distant future.
“Let’s wait and see, because we don’t know what will happen in the distant future because of what happens today,” right?

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Still having a hard time believing that animations will be done in 2 days.

Told you: a Swiss miracle
And people keep buying this horse shit...

 

[hzjujk]

Oh, that's right.

If this game goes to Steam, Sophia will have to be a landlady, not a mom.

Someone who insists that the son should be the main character because this game is "A Wife And Mother" might cry.

According to the rules of Steam - no incest - Dylan and Elli will no longer be Sophia and Liam's biological children. Stiff parenting is also ruled out. This completely removes the name of the game "A Wife and Mother".
The two blackmail routes (Aiden/Bennet) will also be obsolete.
The reason why Sophia gives in to the blackmailers on both routes is that Dylan is her son. If this very strong reason to endure the humiliation is removed, if Dylan is just a "lodger", this already fragile structure collapses.
And SexEd's idea of a "lodger" is then even more disastrous. It can only work if Sophia pursues her own sexual interests from the outset.
I think, and I mean this quite ironically, that all of this will definitely move the story forward. Dylan Route gone, Aiden Route gone and the Bennet Route, small as it is, will also be a thing of the past. I don't even want to talk about the side jobs.
I can't wait for the game to be released on Steam!

 

[hzjujk]

So, your argument for the legendary fight is kink shaming? I thought that was not allowed here.

No matter what is allowed or not. This trump card is pulled out every now and then when frustration grows and someone like you simply won't listen to the voice of reason.

 

[Morgan12]

I really miss Sophia and Ellie's interactions

Yes, the showers together was hot, and I miss Dylan dressing with Mom in the morning.....oh ❤‍❤‍ well

 

[Mad.Eyes]

According to the rules of Steam - no incest

Unlike Patreon, Steam have no such rule and has no problem with that content.

 

[DarkShadow29]

Unlike Patreon, Steam have no such rule and has no problem with that content.

Steam might have rules on child pornography and teenagers sex..not incest..he has to edit alot before launching.... honestly there were so many paths for Sophia but yet LP with Epstein creativity made his decision to prolong school kids sex path.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

100% - 95% - 45%
0% - 0% - 80%

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

100% - 95% - 45%
0% - 0% - 80%

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[Ataman87]

Simple question are they removing incest from the game and the home teacher scenes?

 

[Kirill86]

Simple question are they removing incest from the game and the home teacher scenes?

nobody...nothing...don't removing from game. just wait

 

[ihl86]

First, I said that the only time Dylan and Ellie corrupt Sofia is when they are with Sofia.

The incident in the car and the Viagra incident you mentioned are not the individual stories you mentioned and are better suited to the "when they are with Sofia" I mentioned.

Second, when you said "Ellie has, even at that point, realized what Dylan is after, but Sophia hasn't yet", how does that become Sophia's corruption if she doesn't know it?

In a hospital, if a nurse removes a patient's pubic hair to prepare for surgery, does it constitute corruption?

Third, you say that everything becomes the basis for later events.
(But you can't say what the case is. No one knows)

So, are the flight attendant's actions on the plane also the starting point of the Parker family's downfall?

So, will the meeting between Sophia and Harris be the beginning of the downfall of the Harris family in the distant future?

Maybe your birth was the decisive factor in the creation of this game. that's right?

A clear point of corruption must be presented.
When people talk that way like you do, they can make up anything.

I haven't read all the history of you two guys arguing but if I understood correctly you are saying that events without Sophia like the current PD have no place in the VN as they aren't about Sophia and her corruption.
While I kind of wish we didn't have to play through these events instead of Sophia driven ones, I think they can influence the whole story.

Imagine at some point they will have a threesome in the family, Sophia and her kids. With what we currently know about Ellie and Dylan, that would be extremely out of character for Ellie. So if that is to happen, their relationship has to develop. Or maybe Ellie has some fun with Sophia and decides to help Dylan progress in his attempts with her. The same, why would she do that, if her relationship with Dylan doesn't develop? So if these are avenues that L&P is thinking about (not sure if he is), I do prefer to see how they get to this point than playing just Sophia events and then get blindsided(not really as we all know it will happen, but I think you get my point) with Dylan and Ellie hooking up.