VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Rome5555555]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

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The progress in game development is great!

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Maybe I am missing something, but sometimes I have the feeling (after reading some comments) that many people expect Dylan, Ellie and Sophia to get married (or something like that) and live happily ever after.

The way how I see it - they all deserve to have their own fun:

• Sophia has plenty of guys who really 'like' her and want to 'know her better'.
  
• Ellie is supposed to become a 'slut' (from somebody's message - "she is not slut YET"), which means more than one boyfriend (and not 'Dylan forever').
• Dylan is surrounded by three other girls at this party (looking at the preview pictures), why does he have to have a 'thing' with Ellie only (who he sees everyday at home anyway).

I think this game is about a family where everybody is having fun (after all - the life is too short). Enjoy it!

Realistically speaking you need a good team to develop such a project at a reasonable time (say 10 years from now) and of course big money…

Another way to go fast and see all the above scenarios happening you need a project with very few renders and a dialogue like this:
- Hello!
- Hello!
- I like you.
- I like you too.
- Wanna fuck?
- Ok, let’s fuck…
- Ahhh…
- Ohhh…
- I’m cumming!!!
- I’m cumming too…
- Split…
- Splat…
- Aaahh…

 

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07/01 - if no holidays taken (as per his message)

PS: only if LP works nonstop he may release it on New Year’s Eve…

Man, only one day has passed since your initial schedule and you've already had to change it! It's futile... I know it because I've done it many times before.

 

[Mad.Eyes]

If that's the case then I must have written nonsense. I'll do some research

My comment was only about the incest point. Underage characters and the school setting would need changing.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

My comment was only about the incest point. Underage characters and the school setting would need changing.

He has to remove shota contents from the game in order to release the game on steam. He said he would take a break to focus on steam release and he'll remove SJ1 and SJ2 so he could focus on other important routes & finish.... *cough*... the game *cough*..... in time

 

[ihl86]

That the bonus storyline is completely out of character for Ellie is why I think it's just a dream of Dylan's. Everything we learn about Ellie's preferences for a sexual partner, vs what is presented as what Ellie is for those that don't play her route, proves that those that don't actually care about Ellie are more about Dylan getting a harem. Of which he's not going to get, but is the dream of the M/S fans.

I think we knew it from the car that Dylan and Ellie would hook up. It's the pseudo MC getting with his sister, it's going to happen ). L&P has been building their relationship little by little, with the laptop, with the diner. Not that any of it is realistic, or supposed to be, but Ellie and Dylan is a lot more believable than Dylan and Sophia. Also more believable than Ellie and Sophia, two straight women, deciding to have a lesbian relationship and an incestuous one at that within a few days of never even thinking about anything like that. But that's what most of these VN's are, a fantasy for different kinks. I like most of them, to some degree or another as I like Sophia, only problem is, with development so slow, it's kind of meh to get an average one instead of the one you wish for.

 

[ihl86]

Maybe I am missing something, but sometimes I have the feeling (after reading some comments) that many people expect Dylan, Ellie and Sophia to get married (or something like that) and live happily ever after.

The way how I see it - they all deserve to have their own fun:

• Sophia has plenty of guys who really 'like' her and want to 'know her better'.
  
• Ellie is supposed to become a 'slut' (from somebody's message - "she is not slut YET"), which means more than one boyfriend (and not 'Dylan forever').
• Dylan is surrounded by three other girls at this party (looking at the preview pictures), why does he have to have a 'thing' with Ellie only (who he sees everyday at home anyway).

I think this game is about a family where everybody is having fun (after all - the life is too short). Enjoy it!

I think most people aren't into NTR and if they identify themselves with Dylan (and some apparently do, or they wouldn't want his story so much) they don't want his Love Interests to get with other people. Sophia being the exception as this game is about her becoming a slut in the end. But I missed the part where Ellie is supposed to become a slut. Not that I would mind it, except if L&P explores that storyline as well, it's even more delay to Sophia's story.

 

[tofhdns]

I haven't read all the history of you two guys arguing but if I understood correctly you are saying that events without Sophia like the current PD have no place in the VN as they aren't about Sophia and her corruption.
While I kind of wish we didn't have to play through these events instead of Sophia driven ones, I think they can influence the whole story.

Imagine at some point they will have a threesome in the family, Sophia and her kids. With what we currently know about Ellie and Dylan, that would be extremely out of character for Ellie. So if that is to happen, their relationship has to develop. Or maybe Ellie has some fun with Sophia and decides to help Dylan progress in his attempts with her. The same, why would she do that, if her relationship with Dylan doesn't develop? So if these are avenues that L&P is thinking about (not sure if he is), I do prefer to see how they get to this point than playing just Sophia events and then get blindsided(not really as we all know it will happen, but I think you get my point) with Dylan and Ellie hooking up.

XaGnard's logic is that it would be boring to only see Sophia's point of view, and since the entire Parker family is the main character, there is no problem in creating Dylan's single story, and Dylan's single story is necessary to corrupt Sophia.

I agree that different perspectives enrich the story, but I also say that Dylan should not be the MC.
- As I have said repeatedly, my argument is not about the presence of the character, but about the character's screen time. Sofia has no/little screen time in this update.

XaGnard's logic is, first, that seeing only Sophia's point of view is boring, so multiple perspectives are needed.
- I partially agreed with this and said that different perspectives enrich the story. (It also includes the meaning of partially disagreeing)

Second, since this game is “a wife and mother,” the son is also the main character.
- I disagree with this and Sofia is not the only one in this game who is "a wife and mother".
Sophia is not the main character because the title is “a wife and mother”, but the title is “a wife and mother” because Sophia is the main character.

This is like putting what should be put in front at the back and putting what should be behind at the front. It's like saying can sell edible apples at an Apple store or can sell farm equipment. Because of the title

Third, Dylan's role is important for Sophia's corruption process.
- I partially agreed with this opinion and said that Dylan has a role as a "device".

Lastly, XaGnard said that's why Dylan's single story was needed.
- I completely disagree with this opinion and the reasons are as follows:

First, Dylan's single story is another side story or, if not, another main story.
Of course, this causes the game to be extended/delayed.

Second, Sophia already has many routes, including the route with Liam, the route with Sam, the homosexual route, and the route with Dylan.
Here, Dylan's route after returning from the home party is added.
And Dylan already has six women, and with this update, Christine and Amy were added.
“There are already too many.”

Remember that most people said that in order to shorten the development period, the overall volume of the game should be reduced by cutting side stories and reducing the number of characters.

Third, Dylan has already returned from the club and received a handjob from Sophia in the jacuzzi.
This update is not a story after that, but an alternative story.
After Dylan gets a handjob from Sofia in the jacuzzi, he doesn't go to Christine's house.
Dylan canceled the jacuzzi event and went to Christine's house.

Do you think it's right for Dylan to cancel the jacuzzi event and go to Christine's house party for Sophia's corruption?

Dylan has already approached Sophia. Do you think it's right to cancel it and create another route?

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You want a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie threesome?

Would Dylan who got a handjob in the jacuzzi be faster or would Dylan who went to Christine's home party be faster?

And Dylan and Ellie somewhat restored their relationship after the laptop incident and the swing.
Their relationship turned sour at a fast food restaurant, and in this update, their relationship doesn't recover when Dylan chooses Christine or Amy.

This update is just an unnecessary waste of movement line and the addition of a useless new route.

 

[tofhdns]

If that's the case then I must have written nonsense. I'll do some research

Steam has regulations regarding children's content and sexual exploitation.

 

[tofhdns]

I think we knew it from the car that Dylan and Ellie would hook up. It's the pseudo MC getting with his sister, it's going to happen ). L&P has been building their relationship little by little, with the laptop, with the diner. Not that any of it is realistic, or supposed to be, but Ellie and Dylan is a lot more believable than Dylan and Sophia. Also more believable than Ellie and Sophia, two straight women, deciding to have a lesbian relationship and an incestuous one at that within a few days of never even thinking about anything like that. But that's what most of these VN's are, a fantasy for different kinks. I like most of them, to some degree or another as I like Sophia, only problem is, with development so slow, it's kind of meh to get an average one instead of the one you wish for.

You should rewatch their conversation at the laptop incident and their conversation at the fast food restaurant.
Compared to the laptop incident, the conversation at a fast food restaurant is a step backwards.

And Ellie is bisexual and she already has Julia and she already shares Sofia with Julia.

Also, the fact that you assumed that Dylan and Ellie would hook up because of the incident in the car is because you have already experienced a lot of porn, and from the perspective of the story alone, your assumption makes no sense.

At the time, their relationship was almost enemies.

 

[tofhdns]

I think most people aren't into NTR and if they identify themselves with Dylan (and some apparently do, or they wouldn't want his story so much) they don't want his Love Interests to get with other people. Sophia being the exception as this game is about her becoming a slut in the end. But I missed the part where Ellie is supposed to become a slut. Not that I would mind it, except if L&P explores that storyline as well, it's even more delay to Sophia's story.

I like NTR, and I know this developer also had NTR planned at one time. (but it was discarded)

 

[Galaktur]

The stupidity of going on STEAM. Part of the community knows how long the game has been developed and when some people purchase it in STEAM, they will see that some of the content does not exist at all, but only preludes to sex. Then this fool will catch a bunch of negative reviews for the game.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

XaGnard's logic is that it would be boring to only see Sophia's point of view, and since the entire Parker family is the main character, there is no problem in creating Dylan's single story, and Dylan's single story is necessary to corrupt Sophia.

I agree that different perspectives enrich the story, but I also say that Dylan should not be the MC.
- As I have said repeatedly, my argument is not about the presence of the character, but about the character's screen time. Sofia has no/little screen time in this update.

XaGnard's logic is, first, that seeing only Sophia's point of view is boring, so multiple perspectives are needed.
- I partially agreed with this and said that different perspectives enrich the story. (It also includes the meaning of partially disagreeing)

Second, since this game is “a wife and mother,” the son is also the main character.
- I disagree with this and Sofia is not the only one in this game who is "a wife and mother".
Sophia is not the main character because the title is “a wife and mother”, but the title is “a wife and mother” because Sophia is the main character.

This is like putting what should be put in front at the back and putting what should be behind at the front. It's like saying can sell edible apples at an Apple store or can sell farm equipment. Because of the title

Third, Dylan's role is important for Sophia's corruption process.
- I partially agreed with this opinion and said that Dylan has a role as a "device".

Lastly, XaGnard said that's why Dylan's single story was needed.
- I completely disagree with this opinion and the reasons are as follows:

First, Dylan's single story is another side story or, if not, another main story.
Of course, this causes the game to be extended/delayed.

Second, Sophia already has many routes, including the route with Liam, the route with Sam, the homosexual route, and the route with Dylan.
Here, Dylan's route after returning from the home party is added.
And Dylan already has six women, and with this update, Christine and Amy were added.
“There are already too many.”

Remember that most people said that in order to shorten the development period, the overall volume of the game should be reduced by cutting side stories and reducing the number of characters.

Third, Dylan has already returned from the club and received a handjob from Sophia in the jacuzzi.
This update is not a story after that, but an alternative story.
After Dylan gets a handjob from Sofia in the jacuzzi, he doesn't go to Christine's house.
Dylan canceled the jacuzzi event and went to Christine's house.

Do you think it's right for Dylan to cancel the jacuzzi event and go to Christine's house party for Sophia's corruption?

Dylan has already approached Sophia. Do you think it's right to cancel it and create another route?

Spoiler

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You want a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie threesome?

Would Dylan who got a handjob in the jacuzzi be faster or would Dylan who went to Christine's home party be faster?

And Dylan and Ellie somewhat restored their relationship after the laptop incident and the swing.
Their relationship turned sour at a fast food restaurant, and in this update, their relationship doesn't recover when Dylan chooses Christine or Amy.

This update is just an unnecessary waste of movement line and the addition of a useless new route.

Your logical trains of thought are in a direct opposition to the way this dev and his project operate. No matter how much sense you make, it'll be beat by some phony poll results or just because and kiss my ass.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

The stupidity of going on STEAM. Part of the community knows how long the game has been developed and when some people purchase it in STEAM, they will see that some of the content does not exist at all, but only preludes to sex. Then this fool will catch a bunch of negative reviews for the game.

The whole idea is to hook up the unaware other part And that part will be just as forgiving and apologetic as his loyal enablers on Patreon
Stockholm syndrome is nothing new.

 

[Galaktur]

The whole idea is to hook up the unaware other part And that part will be just as forgiving and apologetic as his loyal enablers on Patreon
Stockholm syndrome is nothing new.

Rather, a complex of infantile fairy girls))))

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Rather, a complex of infantile fairy girls)))) View attachment 3178417

They'll try to convince you there's logic behind it, but don't get fooled. Some just don't care and/or are fully ok with his antics; some are scared he might abandon the project.
I can bet my balls he'd change his tune in no time when faced a significant drop on pledges, but it has not happened for six years and it ain't gonna happen now, so... FUBAR.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I cannot understand how such a piece of crap has garnered so much acceptance...the developer is purposely stretching the broth to keep milking the patreons and they continue undaunted to pay...ten years from now the developer will still be tergiversing and you will still be paying like fools for a piece of crap that is not worth the time it takes but so be it, your business...

Careful with such statements, you'll wake up the grim facepalmers commando

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

 

[palmtrees89]

Unlike Patreon, Steam have no such rule and has no problem with that content.

Incest is illegal in many countries on our planet, atleast to a certain degree of relationship. Same goes for depicting incest in games. Now, I can't tell what rules exactly there are on Steam in general, but if it's illegal in your country, you won't find it on Steam in your country either.

I'm curious; Can you name one game that has straight up mother-son incest in it that's also sold on Steam? And by that I mean unaltered relationship status. Because from what I know, games with incest are usually altered to have the Landlord/Landlady and tenant/ward relationships rather than straight up mother/son etc.

I can't think of a single game where that's a thing.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

I cannot understand how such a piece of crap has garnered so much acceptance...the developer is purposely stretching the broth to keep milking the patreons and they continue undaunted to pay...ten years from now the developer will still be tergiversing and you will still be paying like fools for a piece of crap that is not worth the time it takes but so be it, your business...

He’s rather stuck imo… Because he has a lot to produce. 17 PDs with one year per PD makes it 17 years in total. Even if he produces 1.5 PDs / year he has 11 more years of production… it is a lot and there’s no need to get stuck into details…