VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

AND THIS ABOUT THE NEXT 2 PD :
yep it sound awesome but next year will be the rest of the day 3 Dylan/Sophie events and the collage boys.finally the start of the good day with Sophie/Patricia Brokeback Mountain event

Also closer to my big day,give or take a couple of years

 

[tofhdns]

unfortunately LP will not allow that as he has already said (his words not mine in so many words) that he dont want to (cheapen) her look and his vision of what he perceives to her to be (whatever tf that is) but it cheapens the experience because he wants to let it play out like a erotic movie but is in novel Form which is BS because we all know in erotic movies or thrillers their is some sex scenes or implying/eluding to it anyways . but at this point to me i think only ones will probably actually fuck her will be the MAIN LIs and even then it will be who she falls in love with im assuming but hell it will be along ass time before we see that though if at all at this point but on the bright side i think pressure is mounting on his as i and others have said it will get to a point where he will have to start cutting shit that he dont want to cut and mess up his integrity/vision of said game and thus make her more slutty or he will abandon it because the pressure will be too much for him it is only a matter of time before we know which is which but we will notice in the mid to long term though

THIS IS HIS WORDS ON IT :
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He distinguishes between "self-contained little story" and "very big story that's told in episodes".

Of course, the big stories are Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Sam, and Sophia/Ellie.
The rest are all small stories.

Now please, I hope this bullshit gets off this forum, "there needs to be side characters so that Sophia can be corrupted enough to commit incest".

As I say over and over again, they are just separate, independent, time-wasting stories.

 

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unfortunately LP will not allow that as he has already said (his words not mine in so many words) that he dont want to (cheapen) her look and his vision of what he perceives to her to be (whatever tf that is) but it cheapens the experience because he wants to let it play out like a erotic movie but is in novel Form which is BS because we all know in erotic movies or thrillers their is some sex scenes or implying/eluding to it anyways . but at this point to me i think only ones will probably actually fuck her will be the MAIN LIs and even then it will be who she falls in love with im assuming but hell it will be along ass time before we see that though if at all at this point but on the bright side i think pressure is mounting on his as i and others have said it will get to a point where he will have to start cutting shit that he dont want to cut and mess up his integrity/vision of said game and thus make her more slutty or he will abandon it because the pressure will be too much for him it is only a matter of time before we know which is which but we will notice in the mid to long term though

THIS IS HIS WORDS ON IT :
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AND THIS ABOUT THE SIDE JOBS:
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AND THIS ABOUT THE NEXT 2 PD :
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Thank you for sharing L&P's response, much appreciated


First off, I’ve never sponsored L&P because, as a video game developer myself (not in the adult game space), I used to think he was just lazy. But after reading his response, it’s clear he’s actually talented at what he does—though it seems like he hasn't really learned from seven years of experience. His admission is kind of ironic. “A Wife and A Mother” feels more like an erotic book than a game (definitely not a movie), and the fanfare around it, while mixed, shows that his vision is at least somewhat on point. But yeah, he’s being pressured to add more sexual content which does not fit the actual pacing.

The last time I picked up the game, I started fresh (since my save was from two years ago), and I noticed the pacing has sped up in a way that feels pretty unnatural. Some of the routes now just feel cheap. The story, which was the main selling point for me, is getting watered down and no longer stays true to the original concept.

Catching up on the thread today, some members conveyed that A wife and a mother has reached the "blowjobs and creampie" era. It's ridiculous, cheap and obvious move, but it looks like his Patreon supporters are fine with it for now. Brace for more of these in the next updates; that's my prediction although he promises "hot stuff". ( that use of "hot stuff" makes me feel like L&P is a girl, but i'm a idiot so)

I do think at some point, he’s going to lose focus on his original vision entirely. And if he suddenly shifts gears too much, he risks losing support. The only way he can really fix this is by pumping out consistent, meaty updates—like a full in-game day or something substantial. That would keep fans happy, but to make it happen, L&P needs to hire in a team.

After seven years, it should be clear that no solo developer can keep up this pace. If L&P keeps going at it alone, the game will either hit a huge hiatus or get abandoned entirely. L&P needs to step up as the director and start bringing in part-time or aspiring developers to help out. That’s the only way he can realistically keep his vision alive without burning out.

 

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He distinguishes between "self-contained little story" and "very big story that's told in episodes".

Of course, the big stories are Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Sam, and Sophia/Ellie.
The rest are all small stories.

Now please, I hope this bullshit gets off this forum, "there needs to be side characters so that Sophia can be corrupted enough to commit incest".

As I say over and over again, they are just separate, independent, time-wasting stories.

Question :

Has Dylan became the second protagonist of this game??

 

[tofhdns]

Question :

Has Dylan became the second protagonist of this game??

According to him, the entire Sophia family became the main characters.

He initially announced "one female protagonist," but after he increased Dylan's screen time, he backtracked on his original statement.

 

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According to him, the entire Sophia family became the main characters.

He initially announced "one female protagonist," but after he increased Dylan's screen time, he backtracked on his original statement.

L&P is quite a quirky fellah.

If he creates a spin-off out of Dylan, given his track record, he can milk even more money!!!

 

[lockerxx]

Also closer to my big day,give or take a couple of years

hey, we saw her in a Lara croft cosplay is something

 

[tofhdns]

L&P is quite a quirky fellah.

If he creates a spin-off out of Dylan, given his track record, he can milk even more money!!!

I said so, and many others said so.
But he puts everything into this one game.
It seems like this game is the only one game in his life.

And

1. For years, many people have told him to hire staff, and he has promised many times that he will do so.
But he sometimes changes his words according to his needs, "I hired a team" or "I work alone."

2. The reason why the story jump phenomenon occurred at some point is not because of pressure from someone, but because he failed the storytelling for that part.
If you try the storytelling of that empty part, you will feel how long it takes to fill that empty part.

For example, it takes a very long time to get to the Sophia/Ellie sauna scene.

But unlike when he used a "one week time jump" in Liam's business trip scene, this time he just "skips" it.

 

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I said so, and many others said so.
But he puts everything into this one game.
It seems like this game is the only one game in his life.

And

1. For years, many people have told him to hire staff, and he has promised many times that he will do so.
But he sometimes changes his words according to his needs, "I hired a team" or "I work alone."

2. The reason why the story jump phenomenon occurred at some point is not because of pressure from someone, but because he failed the storytelling for that part.
If you try the storytelling of that empty part, you will feel how long it takes to fill that empty part.

For example, it takes a very long time to get to the Sophia/Ellie sauna scene.

But unlike when he used a "one week time jump" in Liam's business trip scene, this time he just "skips" it.

You and the others are absolutely right; it would have made perfect sense. Additionally technically, this decision will mean less coding and programming, basically less work for him. L&P is making his life much harder with this decision.

Addressing point :

1. If he has not - then he is a simply a competent idiot. I used to have two odd friends like these at university; they dreamt to be the next Cormack. 24 years later, they have not worked on any titles. Those type of self-serving narratives ( lame excuses) are signs of a dishonest person. I don't like that.

2. This is a perspective that I have not considered, agreed this can be the case. It's very obvious, that in some cases, L&P is cutting around corners and jumping through the story to advance his agenda.

To be fair, I've recently paid a lot of attention to this game after I played the V.205 and to only find out, the game is far from completed. The thread is more entertaining than the game; the reason I'm having a chat. From all the information, i've learned from you and the other members here that provide substantial updates ; it's a mess. May be - Its a TRAP! lol

I forgot earlier to address " Now please, I hope this bullshit gets off this forum, "there needs to be side characters so that Sophia can be corrupted enough to commit incest". "

I agree for practical reasons - the game is slow enough and has already a huge cast why even bother. The so-called "logic" even if its porn logic of having more characters to corrupt her to make her do anything is ridiculous. Pardon my french here, but its basically saying :

If a girl is not into anal sex; the chances of her giving it up to her boyfriend's dik is contigent on her friends fingering her arse. If they don't - never gonna happen!! XD

 

[Old Dog]

hey, we saw her in a Lara croft cosplay is something

This sacrilege will not go unpunished.

 

[alexandro1969]

mom and son or mom and daughter.....just these protagonists

 

[tofhdns]

You and the others are absolutely right; it would have made perfect sense. Additionally technically, this decision will mean less coding and programming, basically less work for him. L&P is making his life much harder with this decision.

Addressing point :

1. If he has not - then he is a simply a competent idiot. I used to have two odd friends like these at university; they dreamt to be the next Cormack. 24 years later, they have not worked on any titles. Those type of self-serving narratives ( lame excuses) are signs of a dishonest person. I don't like that.

2. This is a perspective that I have not considered, agreed this can be the case. It's very obvious, that in some cases, L&P is cutting around corners and jumping through the story to advance his agenda.

To be fair, I've recently paid a lot of attention to this game after I played the V.205 and to only find out, the game is far from completed. The thread is more entertaining than the game; the reason I'm having a chat. From all the information, i've learned from you and the other members here that provide substantial updates ; it's a mess. May be - Its a TRAP! lol

I forgot earlier to address " Now please, I hope this bullshit gets off this forum, "there needs to be side characters so that Sophia can be corrupted enough to commit incest". "

I agree for practical reasons - the game is slow enough and has already a huge cast why even bother. The so-called "logic" even if its porn logic of having more characters to corrupt her to make her do anything is ridiculous. Pardon my french here, but its basically saying :

If a girl is not into anal sex; the chances of her giving it up to her boyfriend's dik is contigent on her friends fingering her arse. If they don't - never gonna happen!! XD

He's a dexterous (hand skill) idiot.

And he is a coward. (Or he is lazy.)

As I said before, he has been suggested to compress the entire volume of the game and make a spin-off, but he never tries.
He received several warnings from Patreon, but he did not respond well and was eventually kicked out.
He said he would publish this game on Steam, but he never tried. (Or maybe he was lying.)
He admitted that he had too many characters and confessed that it was his mistake, but refused to reduce it. (And he kept adding new characters.)
He hired staff at least once, but did not share information with them properly.
He constantly exposes his lack of real-world experience, but no efforts were made for it. (Except watching porn.)

Some people object strongly when I say he is a coward, but I can't find any reason for all these problems other than that he is a coward. (Or he is lazy.)

He refuses to do anything other than keep rolling what is currently rolling.