VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

the point is who made the walkthrough? A fan or Lp himself. If it is a fan's, there's high chance he did not highlight aiden route bc aiden appeared in the mid game not from the beginning like sam or dylan. And if you look at the amout of time aiden appears, you would realize that he is just behind sam liam or dylan and ahead partricia

I'm talking the official walkthough by L&P, of which Liam is highlighted through the green GW choices, Dylan and Sam through the blue choices, Ellie and Patricia though the purple. Aiden doesn't get highlighted.

EDIT: I'd argue even Marie is more important than Aiden. While she has had minimal screentime, she appears on all routes. Even those that do the Alyssa/Antonio event will have the Dylan/Marie matchup later this PD.

 

[maybes4]

I don’t expect a whole lot out of this short release. But hell, she’s surrounded by gangbangers in an alley, looking stunning and wearing a sexy dress. There has to be SOME type of debasement to get us aroused. She can’t just walk out free after a few leers and mild catcalls, like she did last time she was here.

what makes the difference? Last time she could so this time too

 

[maybes4]

I'm talking the official walkthough by L&P, of which Liam is highlighted through the green GW choices, Dylan and Sam through the blue choices, Ellie and Patricia though the purple. Aiden doesn't get highlighted.

EDIT: I'd argue even Marie is more important than Aiden. While she has had minimal screentime, she appears on all routes. Even those that do the Alyssa/Antonio event will have the Dylan/Marie matchup later this PD.

i think aiden doesnot get highlighted bc he appears in midgame and the walkthrough is made long before. And u have to admit aiden has long screentime, even longer than partricia. He is eligible to not be called sub character

 

[Alley_Cat]

i think aiden doesnot get highlighted bc he appears in midgame and the walkthrough is made long before. And u have to admit aiden has long screentime, even longer than partricia. He is eligible to not be called sub character

Your argument appears to rely on the official walkthrough not being updated regularly, which is obviously false. If Aiden only appearing midgame was in any way relevant, he would started being highlighted as he became important. Which clearly isn't the case.

As for screentime, Aiden has only a few more events than most of the the other students in the class. I'll need to check once I get my desktop running again (since that has my spreadsheet with the scene counts of all the characters), but Zac might have about the same amount of scenes.

 

[maybes4]

Lets talk about what the 5th task might be guys.
This is my guess: Sophia comes to aidens hideout to only find aiden didn't keep his words that there would be only him. Aiden will explain because the very next task involves all of his gang: He wants sophia to pose bikini for them!(remember her show for dylan and sam, this will be much more nastier)
Of course sophia hesistates, but then agrees on a naive premise that aiden wont let anyone touch her, just looks. And in the show, everything will go just fine except some abrasive comments. Sophia might do a dance strip too. But in the end, there must be someone breaks the promise and touch her a little. Andre might be the culprit bc he wants to take a revenge on sophia for slapping him. Or he cant wait till then and will settle that score in this meeting by groping her.
So i think aiden is the next one to see sophia wears thong or g string after liam, dylan and sam. Congrats to team aiden.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Lets talk about what the 5th task might be guys.
This is my guess: Sophia comes to aidens hideout to only find aiden didn't keep his words that there would be only him. Aiden will explain because the very next task involves all of his gang: He wants sophia to pose bikini for them!(remember her show for dylan and sam, this will be much more nastier)
Of course sophia hesistates, but then agrees on a naive premise that aiden wont let anyone touch her, just looks. And in the show, everything will go just fine except some abrasive comments. Sophia might do a dance strip too. But in the end, there must be someone breaks the promise and touch her a little. Andre might be the culprit bc he wants to take a revenge on sophia for slapping him. Or he cant wait till then and will settle that score in this meeting by groping her.
So i think aiden is the next one to see sophia wears thong or g string after liam, dylan and sam. Congrats to team aiden.

For an update that doesn’t even register as a full event? Remember this is only a very short update - .161. So not even comparable the next proper update which is for the boarding school route

 

[Bibifoc]

I can't final save part 1 how do I do it?

You need to update your Part 1 first.

 

[Allamante]

Lets talk about what the 5th task might be guys.
This is my guess: Sophia comes to aidens hideout to only find aiden didn't keep his words that there would be only him. Aiden will explain because the very next task involves all of his gang: He wants sophia to pose bikini for them!(remember her show for dylan and sam, this will be much more nastier)
Of course sophia hesistates, but then agrees on a naive premise that aiden wont let anyone touch her, just looks. And in the show, everything will go just fine except some abrasive comments. Sophia might do a dance strip too. But in the end, there must be someone breaks the promise and touch her a little. Andre might be the culprit bc he wants to take a revenge on sophia for slapping him. Or he cant wait till then and will settle that score in this meeting by groping her.
So i think aiden is the next one to see sophia wears thong or g string after liam, dylan and sam. Congrats to team aiden.

Given the dress she will be wearing with easy access/exposure to the upper part of her body, I guess it will simply be Aiden asking her to reveal her boobs at first in front of all his friends, then her sitting on the sofa while giving Andre a handjob (as revenge for having slapped him earlier) and then Andre ejaculating on her bare breasts (with perhaps an option on her face to degrade her further and make her really upset).

 

[Cleptoman]

So who’s placing bets on last minute animations being added?

I’ll be shocked if we get none.

Maybe he added this update to buy some time so his partner could work on animations for update 0.165

 

[hzjujk]

DISCLAIMER: this is just for the fun of it and to get over the dress issue, which has been solved

I was looking at Sophia's face from the last teaser:

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Two things.

1. Is it me or her left part of the face is a bit strange? Her left eye and part of the cheek seems like it has been "stretched" towards her upper left corner. I don't know if that is part of the expression but I can't understand if she is kind of raising her left eyebrow as in a expression of surprise or squinting her right eye as if she was kind of pondering something.
   It's really a genuine question and curiosity, maybe the talented artists of the thread can jump in and give some clue.
   
   
2. well, it's related to the previous one because I was trying to figure out the expression to have some clue about which point of the discussions the image could be part of (before, after or during the assignment for the 5th task). Hard to tell, at least for me.
   To me it seems that she is listening and trying to figuring out what is being told her rather than e.g. surprise or disgust for "something outrageous" that has been proposed. As reference here is her expression in the 4th task when Aiden tells her the task. The left eyebrow is similarly raised but it's definitely not the same expression of contempt.

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What do you guys think? What you see in her expression?

*Incidentally* I was playing with some face recognition tools for work (sometimes I have to work too) and so I could not resist to test the images in this online face detection and attributes like emotions detection. It's a fun tool if you wanna play with it, you can do it in your browser at

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"gender": "value": "female", "confidence": 66}, "smiling": { "value": "false","confidence": 43}, "age_est": {"value": "24","confidence": 50}, "mood": { "value": "scared","confidence": 73}, "lips": {"value": "parted", "confidence": 7}, "neutral_mood": {"value": "false","confidence": 20}, "anger": {"value": "false","confidence": 3}, "disgust": {"value": "false","confidence": 0}, "fear": { "value": "true","confidence": 73}, "happiness": {"value": "false","confidence": 0}, "sadness": {"value": "false","confidence": 1}, "surprise": {"value": "false", "confidence": 1}, "ethnicity": {"white": { "value": "true","confidence": 86}, So according to this neural network, we have a 25 yo (!) white female, whose lips are parted and with an evident scared mood and fear.

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"gender": {"value": "female","confidence": 37}, "glasses": {"value": "false","confidence": 35 "smiling": {"value": "false","confidence": 21}, "age_est": {"value": "25","confidence": 50}, "mood": {"value": "disgusted","confidence": 86}, "eyes": {"value": "closed", "confidence": 8}, "neutral_mood": {"value": "false",confidence": 1}, "anger": {"value": "false","confidence": 0}, "disgust": {"value": "true","confidence": 86}, "fear": {"value": "false","confidence": 9}, "happiness": {"value": "false","confidence": 3}, "sadness": {"value": "false","confidence": 0}, "surprise": {"value": "false","confidence": 0}, "ethnicity": {"white": {"value": "true","confidence": 93}, It's at least consistent with the age and it suggests disgusted as mood, which can apply knowing the context.

To me, Sophia just seems pissed off. She tries to keep her composure and not show any weakness. Her face expresses contempt. That's what I think I see.
For all you hardcore fans, I would like to add one more thing. If Aiden were to demand something sexual from Sophia during this event, what can he threaten with except violence against Sophia herself if Sophia refuses his demand? Apart from the fact that L&P itself has ruled this out, Aiden would weaken his position if he has to impose his will in this way.
If he wants something he has to renegotiate or Sophia asks him if this should be the 5th task.

 

[palmtrees89]

Given the dress she will be wearing with easy access/exposure to the upper part of her body, I guess it will simply be Aiden asking her to reveal her boobs at first in front of all his friends, then her sitting on the sofa while giving Andre a handjob (as revenge for having slapped him earlier) and then Andre ejaculating on her bare breasts (with perhaps an option on her face to degrade her further and make her really upset).

That's not going to happen. Sophia's not even flashed her titties to these guys as part of the tasks we've seen so far. I don't count the 3rd task at the art gallery here as it was literally art, infront of a bunch of unknown kids, Sophia being anonymous wearing a mask, and hardly a scene that I'd consider progression of corruption with dirty/lewd intentions, even though Sophia got groped by Aiden at the end(not knowing it was him) and was apparently aroused. Giving a handjob to any of them, atleast in my opinion, is several ingame days away. Especially without it being one of Aiden's tasks. Actually I don't think something like that will ever happen on the Aiden route without it being a task itself.

And if Aiden makes this meeting a task, it's certainly not going to be a handjob followed by ejaculation on bare breasts infront of a bunch of strangers. Not that I'd complain, but that would throw any realism left over board and skip several tasks (aswell as Sophia's current state of corruption) considering the previous ones were really tame compared to what you came up with. AT MOST I could see this being a quick boob flash for the boys, maybe pulling up her skirt aswell, but that's about it.

I don't think this update will include one of Aiden's tasks at all to be honest. Pretty sure every task in the game so far had been announced in one of L&P's development blogs, and we've also never had 2 tasks in one day if I remember correctly. We're only at PD 13 out of 30, and there's 8 tasks left. L&P will likely stretch this out as long and close to the end of the game as possible. Not that we'll ever reach the end of the game with the current development speed anyways, but yeah.

 

[dolfe67]

Your argument appears to rely on the official walkthrough not being updated regularly, which is obviously false. If Aiden only appearing midgame was in any way relevant, he would started being highlighted as he became important. Which clearly isn't the case.

As for screentime, Aiden has only a few more events than most of the the other students in the class. I'll need to check once I get my desktop running again (since that has my spreadsheet with the scene counts of all the characters), but Zac might have about the same amount of scenes.

Aiden is one of the most important characters outside Sophia's family. He can be ignored quickly, but so all the other ones.

 

[dolfe67]

That's not going to happen. Sophia's not even flashed her titties to these guys as part of the tasks we've seen so far. I don't count the 3rd task at the art gallery here as it was literally art, infront of a bunch of unknown kids, Sophia being anonymous wearing a mask, and hardly a scene that I'd consider progression of corruption with dirty/lewd intentions, even though Sophia got groped by Aiden at the end(not knowing it was him) and was apparently aroused. Giving a handjob to any of them, atleast in my opinion, is several ingame days away. Especially without it being one of Aiden's tasks. Actually I don't think something like that will ever happen on the Aiden route without it being a task itself.

And if Aiden makes this meeting a task, it's certainly not going to be a handjob followed by ejaculation on bare breasts infront of a bunch of strangers. Not that I'd complain, but that would throw any realism left over board and skip several tasks (aswell as Sophia's current state of corruption) considering the previous ones were really tame compared to what you came up with. AT MOST I could see this being a quick boob flash for the boys, maybe pulling up her skirt aswell, but that's about it.

I don't think this update will include one of Aiden's tasks at all to be honest. Pretty sure every task in the game so far had been announced in one of L&P's development blogs, and we've also never had 2 tasks in one day if I remember correctly. We're only at PD 13 out of 30, and there's 8 tasks left. L&P will likely stretch this out as long and close to the end of the game as possible. Not that we'll ever reach the end of the game with the current development speed anyways, but yeah.

Yeah don't get your hopes up, there won't be much lewd in the next update.

 

[bayrischman]

Progress Report Ver. 0.161.

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if things go well, update at the end of may. 165 probably early august. half of the day in about 14 months. ridiculous.

 

[maybes4]

For an update that doesn’t even register as a full event? Remember this is only a very short update - .161. So not even comparable the next proper update which is for the boarding school route

im talking about the next task, not the next update. I know the next update will be short, but at least we will know what the 5th task might be

 

[mentosa]

why u want to see it? No one need a spoiler dude

Because I'm immune to spoilers and want to know is it realistic to see any extramarital penetration by the year 2030. I dont have long to live.

 

[mentosa]

to begin with, after the first 5years of waiting, u re still here. So i wont be suprised if in the next 5 years u still fall in love with sophia. U have to admit the game has a compelling attraction.
about those sub characters problem, its easy to solve. Lp just need add 1 sex scene for each sub one while sophias been corrupted. All done. He no need to pull the plug on anything
Ps aiden is as important a character as dylan or sam

What a load of nonsense. How do you know that he was with the game for 5 years, I assume you checked, right. Also if the game is so realistic, does it mean there does not need to be any story before fucking? "She is sufficiently corrupt, she can be penetrated by anyone after 5 minutes" - if the "realism" requirement is not softened, thats not gonna happen. Agree on Aiden being important character, I hope that story line will bring sex the fastest, although someone from Sophias close circle, like the neighbor migh be more realistic.

 

[141191]

Lets talk about what the 5th task might be guys.

She gets pinned in the corner of the alley and gets gang-raped. Congrats to Team Aiden. She's through with him.
NOW SHE'S FINALLY ABLE TO GET BACK ON TRACK with her story by either visiting the school kids to f@ck them as well, to get some filthy points, or back to her husband to collect good wife points or to Patricia to finalise her lesbian route. THE END.
Oh, by the way. I too have some milk left in my fridge. Anyone else interested in buying it? I have opened a Patreon page called Passion & Lust. Good day everyone.

 

[follardo]

As for Aiden, he may not be a main character but to date he is the most important to Sophia's corruption career. She is having arousement feelings about the people closest to her but she is a responsible mother and knows where the limits are. Aiden could be the key for Sophia to break those limits. Sophia is having the most wicked feelings after every Aiden task. Aiden told her that he would show her how she really is. When Sophia finds out, she is already ready to go beyond those limits.

 

[maybes4]

Because I'm immune to spoilers and want to know is it realistic to see any extramarital penetration by the year 2030. I dont have long to live.

Be patient, we are halfway of the game now.

What a load of nonsense. How do you know that he was with the game for 5 years, I assume you checked, right. Also if the game is so realistic, does it mean there does not need to be any story before fucking? "She is sufficiently corrupt, she can be penetrated by anyone after 5 minutes" - if the "realism" requirement is not softened, thats not gonna happen. Agree on Aiden being important character, I hope that story line will bring sex the fastest, although someone from Sophias close circle, like the neighbor migh be more realistic.

Bc if sb wanna quit the game, he would do it just after 2 or 3 years ago. And he is still here, meaning he still love the game despite its slow pace. And the story building is already built

She gets pinned in the corner of the alley and gets gang-raped. Congrats to Team Aiden. She's through with him.
NOW SHE'S FINALLY ABLE TO GET BACK ON TRACK with her story by either visiting the school kids to f@ck them as well, to get some filthy points, or back to her husband to collect good wife points or to Patricia to finalise her lesbian route. THE END.
Oh, by the way. I too have some milk left in my fridge. Anyone else interested in buying it? I have opened a Patreon page called Passion & Lust. Good day everyone.

So rushing. It would destroy all the building from the beginning like Game of throne.