VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Lord_Xanatos]

By the way, if look at the question about favorite character from a different angle. Many talk about Dylan, but is he so interesting without Sophia and now also Ellie? His story is a typical story of a teenager. Even with Ellie also this thing, no matter how much I love her.
Therefore, I think Patricia is the most curious and interesting character, she has a very interesting character and a clear interest to her older sister - Sophia, there is clearly a personal secret here or something.

Hmmm from a different angle you say?

Actually, I think they're all typical people, Dylan the typical straight teenager who likes older women and hormones raging, Ellie the typical teenage girl, tattoos, older boyfriend, a (maybe) experimentation phase, the rest of the younger people are also typical. As for Patricia, well, I guess she is also typical...a young woman married to a rich man in a more open-minded town where she can do anything, dress as she pleases, tease other men, flirt at the gym, planning a "date" with college students and drive expensive cars...the expected behavior of a rich, married young woman in, I guess, a stereotypical manner. She has a wild/free nature so whatever she does is to be expected.

My personal point of view that makes the story much more interesting and unpredictable, is the incest factor, of Sophia with her children, How is it going to progress? by which cases? behind what reasons does Sophia continue delving into such situations and find enjoyment with them (and I'm not referring ONLY to Dylan's but to Ellie's as well) and when it finally gets sexual...why? when? how? not with a single mother, not with her own open-minded and already wild sister, not her maid, her gym buddy, her student, or with the son of her old friend but with her own two children.

I can expect and think of so many reasons for her to dabble with the others that are not related to her thus not leaving me too much for a surprise or a "wow! so that's why!" factor in the story, but when it comes to her son or daughter...I can't even begin to imagine the future of the storytelling for which Sophia ends up getting more intimate and sexual with them and thus why I like it more.

They may all be typical including her children but what she does with them, that's addressed in an expected and still in a realistic matter to make it interesting to play and watch.

That's just my perspective.

 

[Ape Drape]

I dont remember this part,when was it?
Use unren and click option 3 for console
https://f95zone.to/threads/unren-ba...compiler-console-developer-menu-enabler.3083/
all the information you will need.
So put Dylan = 25 and you are good to go

The event isn't in there. I made it up, but it is par for the course.

TY for the tip

 

[nexer]

Hmmm from a different angle you say?

Actually, I think they're all typical people, Dylan the typical straight teenager who likes older women and hormones raging, Ellie the typical teenage girl, tattoos, older boyfriend, a (maybe) experimentation phase, the rest of the younger people are also typical. As for Patricia, well, I guess she is also typical...a young woman married to a rich man in a more open-minded town where she can do anything, dress as she pleases, tease other men, flirt at the gym, planning a "date" with college students and drive expensive cars...the expected behavior of a rich, married young woman in, I guess, a stereotypical manner. She has a wild/free nature so whatever she does is to be expected.

My personal point of view that makes the story much more interesting and unpredictable, is the incest factor, of Sophia with her children, How is it going to progress? by which cases? behind what reasons does Sophia continue delving into such situations and find enjoyment with them (and I'm not referring ONLY to Dylan's but to Ellie's as well) and when it finally gets sexual...why? when? how? not with a single mother, not with her own open-minded and already wild sister, not her maid, her gym buddy, her student, or with the son of her old friend but with her own two children.

I can expect and think of so many reasons for her to dabble with the others that are not related to her thus not leaving me too much for a surprise or a "wow! so that's why!" factor in the story, but when it comes to her son or daughter...I can't even begin to imagine the future of the storytelling for which Sophia ends up getting more intimate and sexual with them and thus why I like it more.

They may all be typical including her children but what she does with them, that's addressed in an expected and still in a realistic matter to make it interesting to play and watch.

That's just my perspective.

Good point.
L&P uses a lot her body's response. Looks like she's being taken by surprise by her own body.
Why do I like this so much?
Why am I horny?
Why am I arousal?
I don't know if L&P's gonna give us a reason for everything.

 

[Plnjr987]

I will like or love to see
Dylan have sex with
Sophia Ellie Patricia
I wonder if Sophia is horny all the time

 

[Maduck187]

Hmmm from a different angle you say?

Actually, I think they're all typical people, Dylan the typical straight teenager who likes older women and hormones raging, Ellie the typical teenage girl, tattoos, older boyfriend, a (maybe) experimentation phase, the rest of the younger people are also typical. As for Patricia, well, I guess she is also typical...a young woman married to a rich man in a more open-minded town where she can do anything, dress as she pleases, tease other men, flirt at the gym, planning a "date" with college students and drive expensive cars...the expected behavior of a rich, married young woman in, I guess, a stereotypical manner. She has a wild/free nature so whatever she does is to be expected.

My personal point of view that makes the story much more interesting and unpredictable, is the incest factor, of Sophia with her children, How is it going to progress? by which cases? behind what reasons does Sophia continue delving into such situations and find enjoyment with them (and I'm not referring ONLY to Dylan's but to Ellie's as well) and when it finally gets sexual...why? when? how? not with a single mother, not with her own open-minded and already wild sister, not her maid, her gym buddy, her student, or with the son of her old friend but with her own two children.

I can expect and think of so many reasons for her to dabble with the others that are not related to her thus not leaving me too much for a surprise or a "wow! so that's why!" factor in the story, but when it comes to her son or daughter...I can't even begin to imagine the future of the storytelling for which Sophia ends up getting more intimate and sexual with them and thus why I like it more.

They may all be typical including her children but what she does with them, that's addressed in an expected and still in a realistic matter to make it interesting to play and watch.

That's just my perspective.

Indeed. Cannot wait for the internal dialogue of Sophia going "why am I so aroused by this?", "why am I letting him do this to me? He's my son!" and "I have to stop him, this isn't normal!" before Dylan plants another kiss and makes her melt. The inevitable payoff will make me instantly

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Good point.
L&P uses a lot her body's response. Looks like she's being taken by surprise by her own body.
Why do I like this so much?
Why am I horny?
Why am I arousal?
I don't know if L&P's gonna give us a reason for everything.

I agree. I don't know if L&P will give us a reason for everything, maaaybe in the form of the narrative not her inner thoughts but it's up to him, but it could be really good to read them in the game.

And I also agree with your questions....now if you add to them the fact that it happens from her own son or her own daughter and it just makes it even more...

Indeed. Cannot wait for the internal dialogue of Sophia going "why am I so aroused by this?", "why am I letting him do this to me? He's my son!" and "I have to stop him, this isn't normal!" before Dylan plants another kiss and makes her melt.

I cannot wait for that either! but I also thought as you put it: "I have to stop him (or her), this isn't normal....but I can't...I don't...want to...I want this as much as he(or she) does" and yes make her melt and orgasm. The nut will be multiplied to the N exponential hahaha.

(I had to count Ellie's side too hehe but yeah, I want that happening more between Sophia & Dylan since that's my exclusive path)

 

[nexer]

Sophia's a bomb waiting to go off, the first one who won't be interrupted is going to eat her. We have enough evidences Tyler, Ellie, and Patricia.

 

[Zorlun]

Well on my part I like the tandem of Dylan and Sam with Sophia, but in the end I kind of hope to see her corrupted by everyone... ^^

 

[sept0342]

What do you think the next event with Dylan/Sam will consist of? Dylan's are easier to guess as they appear to be linear and escalating

 

[Notretsam]

The precise wording of this "fair review" is:
"Story might be cool, but since theres 900 pictures to go through for one breast you see, it's really boring. Even the point ranking system is weird, taking all the filthy action, you'll be block on your route "Sophia doesnt have enought filthy point". So quite unorganized game with hugely poor sex content"
Dude says story is cool, which is actually something positive. Then he complains that you need many renders to see a tit. Then over 50% of his "fair review" deals with a broking point system. He complains that even though he took every filthy point he was blocked from filthy events! Which is absolutely not possible!!! I don't know in which world you're living where lying to damage someone's reputation counts as fair!
So, ignoring the rotten lie and summarize the rest of the "review", his opinion is that it's a cool story but it takes too many renders to see some boobs and there's poor sex content. And this justifies a fucking 1 star rating???!!! Plus if you take a look at this dude's account you'll see that this review was his only activity here since he signed in 2 weeks ago. It really doesn't take much brains to understand that this is nothing but a fake review from a fake account with just one goal, to downgrade the rating of the game! And it's not the first time! But it seems that F95 staff don't get it as they chatter on to me with "freedom of speech" the whole time, those old porn-site-democrats! So, defamation is part of freedom of speech for them! If this would be a clearer business I could accuse them.
By the way, that was my last comment on this topic here. I already wanted to tell my opinion about this fucked-up rating system here a long time ago. But it's senseless anyway.

Because someone of the staff here just answered me "That review is within our rules". Wow!
So, do whatever you like here, guys. Create as many fake accounts you like and write fake shit reviews! Everything is allowed as long as F95 staff says so!

Heil F95 staff!!!

Over and out.

completely agree with you that any 1-star review from a new member who has very little activity or hasn't posted anywhere should be removed. I have seen these reviews in many other VN's/games as well as in here before, and I am surprised, I always assumed they were removed by MODS but appears they aren't, which I think is wrong.

I agree with freedom of speech but there is also the strong possibility that the new account is an "alt account" for someone who doesn't wish to be seen posting the review with their main account. Which is something I always wondered about when I saw these 1-star reviews from new members before, after all, doesn't take much to sign up for an account, which is a great thing.

Hard to know for sure and it's not easy to police either, like how many posts should someone post before gaining permission to post reviews? also, some 1-star reviews might be legit as well but I think no lower than 25 posts and no higher than 75 posts, so 50 posts and they can post reviews?

alas, this is a bit off-topic and a MOD has replied, I just wanted to post and show L & P that I agreed and understood their frustration, but alas, no matter what rules are put in place. if someone is determined enough, they find a way to post there negativity.

 

[Notretsam]

Now to post something more on-topic, am super looking forward to the Aiden challenges.

Appears as the challenges will be moving out of the classroom now as he will be calling/visiting Sophia at home, still possible he could tell her to do something the following day in class though.

does anyone else think there be any more challenges in the classroom?

I did think one of the challenges could be similar to flashing her panties but this time without panties, a total Basic Instinct Sharon Stone scene, but instead of just crossing her legs, she holds her legs apart for a while first before recrossing her legs. This one would be great but may need to be one of the higher challenge numbers though, as not sure she is corrupted enough to do that at the lower task numbers.

 

[DrDougDoesDOS]

Hard to know for sure and it's not easy to police either

Yes, and let's not forget about these AI Bots that some are using now, might sound like something out of Terminator or Ghost In The Shell but they are real.

Someone tried to wreck the latest Venom Movie doing that I heard

 

[ancienregimele]

Sometimes I wonder why a sophisticated woman would want sex with children, even her own children FFS!?! However horny teenagers can be, teen sex is basic & is crude by the standards of what we learn in later life. This leads me to suppose that Sophia would perhaps have to take the lead, maybe even explaining what she wants. (OK so Ellie knows what a woman wants but she surely can't be all that experienced). It seems that incest is coming sooner, rather than later, though from the scheduling of this game it could still be years away. I want Sophia to have sex outside of her immediate family....anybody but Dylan, Ellie & Patricia.
I just hope that there will be the option to avoid incest for those of us not into it. I have to say that I got into AWAM while looking for another game. There appeared on screen two gorgeous wealthy women, wandering through the streets of a clean looking city, (Sophia's 1st visit to school), & I had to know who they were. I havn't always deliberately avoided incest since then, but nor do I seek it out. We need to keep other options open. This talk of a poll has me worried.

 

[Old Dog]

Now to post something more on-topic, am super looking forward to the Aiden challenges.

Appears as the challenges will be moving out of the classroom now as he will be calling/visiting Sophia at home, still possible he could tell her to do something the following day in class though.

does anyone else think there be any more challenges in the classroom?

I did think one of the challenges could be similar to flashing her panties but this time without panties, a total Basic Instinct Sharon Stone scene, but instead of just crossing her legs, she holds her legs apart for a while first before recrossing her legs. This one would be great but may need to be one of the higher challenge numbers though, as not sure she at corrupted enough to do that at the lower task numbers.

The tasks have 10 left to go so flashing to the class,without panties,is a bit too extreme for me personally.Wearing no panties in class ok I could go for that and if the tasks do move outside the class room I can see her flashing breasts/pussy to maybe Aiden.As for Aiden visiting Sophia at home that would cause too many problems,Dylan for one,it would also take some explaining why he was there to Dylan.
With the number of tasks left,I hate to say it,but I can see some form of foreplay between Aiden/Sophia unless L&P has some different ideas on how to fill the remaining tasks.I still say though that Aiden and Sophia WILL NOT HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE

 

[bluehound36]

The precise wording of this "fair review" is:
"Story might be cool, but since theres 900 pictures to go through for one breast you see, it's really boring. Even the point ranking system is weird, taking all the filthy action, you'll be block on your route "Sophia doesnt have enought filthy point". So quite unorganized game with hugely poor sex content"
Dude says story is cool, which is actually something positive. Then he complains that you need many renders to see a tit. Then over 50% of his "fair review" deals with a broking point system. He complains that even though he took every filthy point he was blocked from filthy events! Which is absolutely not possible!!! I don't know in which world you're living where lying to damage someone's reputation counts as fair!
So, ignoring the rotten lie and summarize the rest of the "review", his opinion is that it's a cool story but it takes too many renders to see some boobs and there's poor sex content. And this justifies a fucking 1 star rating???!!! Plus if you take a look at this dude's account you'll see that this review was his only activity here since he signed in 2 weeks ago. It really doesn't take much brains to understand that this is nothing but a fake review from a fake account with just one goal, to downgrade the rating of the game! And it's not the first time! But it seems that F95 staff don't get it as they chatter on to me with "freedom of speech" the whole time, those old porn-site-democrats! So, defamation is part of freedom of speech for them! If this would be a clearer business I could accuse them.
By the way, that was my last comment on this topic here. I already wanted to tell my opinion about this fucked-up rating system here a long time ago. But it's senseless anyway.

Because someone of the staff here just answered me "That review is within our rules". Wow!
So, do whatever you like here, guys. Create as many fake accounts you like and write fake shit reviews! Everything is allowed as long as F95 staff says so!

Heil F95 staff!!!

Over and out.

Personally, I'd be taking the constant complaining about how this is such a slow build up and a tease for as long as it has been with a bit of amusement. Most people on here will do that right up to the point where all the games and VNs get to the sexual action they want to see and then they pile on the praise almost as endlessly as they piled on the complaints and will vociferously defend it with what amounts to religious fervor. Just check out some threads like DMD for example, people bashed it in the beginning cause it dragged on so long before it got to anything remotely erotic or sexual, now the dev has other games under their belt and people constantly praise it. Pretty sure I even mentioned something in that regard when you first started posting on here in this thread when you first released this game on patreon. I tried to tell you to get ready for the proverbial lunacy that was going to happen. I'll say it again, stick to your guns on the direction you take it in but also recognize that at some point you are going to have to get down to the dirty things your supporters and fans want to see happen in this. Waiting too much longer might be counter productive (not necessarily saying you have to immediately dive into it but set a point if you already haven't about which update you're going to add the sexual stuff and don't drag it out further than that). You've got maybe half a year at best before you see the fallout of that complaining start impacting your subs on patreon I would imagine. People are only willing to complain for so long before it turns to action. If they're still complaining and your subs aren't taking a drastic hit, you're still good to go.

 

[Old Dog]

Sometimes I wonder why a sophisticated woman would want sex with children, even her own children FFS!?! However horny teenagers can be, teen sex is basic & is crude by the standards of what we learn in later life. This leads me to suppose that Sophia would perhaps have to take the lead, maybe even explaining what she wants. (OK so Ellie knows what a woman wants but she surely can't be all that experienced). It seems that incest is coming sooner, rather than later, though from the scheduling of this game it could still be years away. I want Sophia to have sex outside of her immediate family....anybody but Dylan, Ellie & Patricia.
I just hope that there will be the option to avoid incest for those of us not into it. I have to say that I got into AWAM while looking for another game. There appeared on screen two gorgeous wealthy women, wandering through the streets of a clean looking city, (Sophia's 1st visit to school), & I had to know who they were. I havn't always deliberately avoided incest since then, but nor do I seek it out. We need to keep other options open. This talk of a poll has me worried.

I don't want to sound rude but have you played the game?
There is a way to avoid the incest,if you want to,and also avoid the Aiden tasks and pick people that you only want to interact with

 

[ancienregimele]

I don't want to sound rude but have you played the game?
There is a way to avoid the incest,if you want to,and also avoid the Aiden tasks and pick people that you only want to interact with

Yeah, I generally do avoid it but it's beginning to seem that this could be the major direction for the future, i. e. more than it already is.

 

[Notretsam]

The tasks have 10 left to go so flashing to the class,without panties,is a bit too extreme for me personally.Wearing no panties in class ok I could go for that and if the tasks do move outside the class room I can see her flashing breasts/pussy to maybe Aiden.As for Aiden visiting Sophia at home that would cause too many problems,Dylan for one,it would also take some explaining why he was there to Dlan.
With the number of tasks left,I hate to say it,but I can see some form of foreplay between Aiden/Sophia unless L&P has some different ideas on how to fill the remaining tasks.I still say though that Aiden and Sophia WILL NOT HAVE INTERCOURSE

I think at some point, she might actually be willing to do it, after all, she already committed to pretty much doing the 10 tasks, no matter what they are. More the relationship with Dylan increases and strengthens, more she will want to protect him and more she will be willing to do for him.

Also, the tasks were always going to escalate and lead to sex with Aiden and Sophia, I could see it leading to having to do things to his friends as well.

What I am wondering is, will it lead to the 2 guys that tried to rape Sophia? after all, clearly Aiden is part of a gang and maybe it linked to the gang they are in, as they appeared to be possible in a gang as well.

Do agree with visiting Sophia at home, also, would cause issues with Sam and not just Dylan, but depending on what choices you have made and specifically the choice that affects how Dylan reacts to other people with Sophia, he might not be fully against seeing Aiden at home and Sophia could come with an excuse, as she is his teacher.

 

[Old Dog]

Yeah, I generally do avoid it but it's beginning to seem that this could be the major direction for the future, i. e. more than it already is.

I admit there are some circumstances that you will need to interact with either Dylan/Ellie but if you try to set up Dylan with Emma that will ends the Dylan/Sophia route.Also telling the truth at the sauna will end the Ellie/Logan and also stop the night club scene,so no Ellie kissing in the shower.
If Sophia is not caught pleasuring herself,watching porn,by Ellie that stops Sophia from showering with Ellie.So you have lots of ways to stop the incest route and just have fun on the either the GW route,Sam route or lesbian route

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Sometimes I wonder why a sophisticated woman would want sex with children, even her own children FFS!?! However horny teenagers can be, teen sex is basic & is crude by the standards of what we learn in later life. This leads me to suppose that Sophia would perhaps have to take the lead, maybe even explaining what she wants. (OK so Ellie knows what a woman wants but she surely can't be all that experienced). It seems that incest is coming sooner, rather than later, though from the scheduling of this game it could still be years away. I want Sophia to have sex outside of her immediate family....anybody but Dylan, Ellie & Patricia.
I just hope that there will be the option to avoid incest for those of us not into it. I have to say that I got into AWAM while looking for another game. There appeared on screen two gorgeous wealthy women, wandering through the streets of a clean looking city, (Sophia's 1st visit to school), & I had to know who they were. I havn't always deliberately avoided incest since then, but nor do I seek it out. We need to keep other options open. This talk of a poll has me worried.

I don't want to sound rude but have you played the game?
There is a way to avoid the incest,if you want to,and also avoid the Aiden tasks and pick people that you only want to interact with

I heard there's a walkthrough guide for the game too. I need to check this out.