VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[abram1]

Why does the developer take so long for his updates. Is he working alone on the game or is there a team. Because the pace at which he is developing, it will take more than a decade to finish the game.

Oh, c'mon. Just pick any 20 erotic flicks from this forum and compare it to AWAM. The level of detail and attention from the dev is literally insane. Even my favorite Milfy City stays in the shadows compared to this game.
For instance take the last 2 in-game days. Look at all the reflections in the pool and notice how much L&P cares about wet hair and hair in general. He even created 2 independent scenes for a bikini show on playable Day 10.
I can agree that it's really slow as he probably does most of the stuff by himself and doesn't want any interference from random people. At the same time this game is his "baby" and judging by the huge difference between the in-game Day 1 and Day 18 you can see without any effort improvements on every aspect of the game (lighting, reflections, increased resolution, more detailed environment ...).

 

[Alley_Cat]

Wow, guys, you've melted my brain. Is there any roadmap or smth that you're talking so indicative about upcoming playable days? Previously some of you, boys, told us what will happen on playable Day 12 with updates 0.115/0.130/0.150. If you have any info about playable Days 13, 14 etc. can you share it with us?
From the game itself we can figure out that on playable Day 15 Patricia invites Sophia to ride horses (I personally hope for some hot stuff under a huge oak in the middle of meadow on top of a hill). And on playable Day 17 we know about Alyssa/Sophia event.
Can you guys help me to fill all the gaps?(no pun intended)

Most of the information is spread out over various posts, but this is what we can confirm:
The movers may return towards the end of the game, but in what capacity, we don't know
The museum date with Jason and Haru is on Playable day 14
There is a "wild" event on Playable day 16, entailing what though, we don't know
The bonus storyline culminates on Playable day 16
Also on Payable day 16 the Ellie storyline branches into 3 separate paths

Everything I've been able to confirm can be summarised with:

Why does the developer take so long for his updates. Is he working alone on the game or is there a team. Because the pace at which he is developing, it will take more than a decade to finish the game.

He is working alone, and yes, some of us fully expect the game to take a decade to finish

 

[MykeRosy]

Whats up guys. What new news here.

 

[JagHond]

I agree with you, dear mate, except for one matter only.

I started to play not only the last update released contents since a few times, just to keep the overall feelings alive.
The results are that I'm having all the 'tension' to learn how the story is progressing still up in return.

So L&P something good happens to having done at least, as seems.

With best regards.

 

[ancienregimele]

Totally agree. The attention to detail is great in this game. That is why it is so popular. And I know he really cares for this game. But he definitely needs a bigger team because from the looks of it the story is going to be long and with the current pace it will only irritate his fans. All his character development really goes to waste because of huge gaps in updates. People don't remember every detail of the character after months and they only play the part recently added. Eventually people will lose interest in the story or he will have to rush it at some point because of the pressure from the fanbase

Telescoping of time has always been a factor with this game. What feels like years to us, (because it is), represents only days, or weeks in the AWAM dimension. One result is a disjointed feeling, an example of which is the museum boys, who are going to reappear. It has only been weeks in the game since they spoke to the sisters but half the fans can probably barely remember them, including me. Yes, it was Haru & er...whatshisname, wasn't it...?

 

[Hlextor]

Everything I've been able to confirm can be summarised with:

Hi Cat, you know I'm a Dylan fan. Can you please explain your diagram to me? Why does Dylan have a "0" on every playable day?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hi Cat, you know I'm a Dylan fan. Can you please explain your diagram to me? Why does Dylan have a "0" on every playable day?

It isn't on every playable day. The listing for Dylan events come from this post here, and as noted at the bottom, the days that are blank, without "0" have at least one Dylan event that day. So for example, we know that Dylan has the Dylan/(Sophia or Emma) event at noon on Playable day 12 (update after next), and a small Dylan/Ellie event in the afternoon (update after that), hence Playable day 12 is blank. We also know that Dylan wont be at the horse-riding trip with Patricia on Playable day 15, and that being the only event that day, Dylan (and Ellie) has no events, hence it has a "0".

It also means that Dylan wont be participating in the "wild" event on Playable day 16, and that after Playable day 19, he only makes an appearance around half the time. On the days he does appear though, it could be multiple times that day.

 

[Hlextor]

It isn't on every playable day. The listing for Dylan events come from this post here, and as noted at the bottom, the days that are blank, without "0" have at least one Dylan event that day. So for example, we know that Dylan has the Dylan/(Sophia or Emma) event at noon on Playable day 12 (update after next), and a small Dylan/Ellie event in the afternoon (update after that), hence Playable day 12 is blank. We also know that Dylan wont be at the horse-riding trip with Patricia on Playable day 15, and that being the only event that day, Dylan (and Ellie) has no events, hence it has a "0".

It also means that Dylan wont be participating in the "wild" event on Playable day 16, and that after Playable day 19, he only makes an appearance around half the time. On the days he does appear though, it could be multiple times that day.

From whom did you get the information on which days the characters have an event or not?

 

[Alley_Cat]

From whom did you get the information on which days the characters have an event or not?

I only ever quote L&P, as directly as I can. If it's from his Patreon page, usually is via either farrah or Old dog. Occasionally it's from a post in this thread, like how we know Playable day 15 is a single day long event. You didn't follow the link in to the listing of Dylan events in my post? That would have told you for Dylan, and the reason I included the link.

For the Ellie events, the information comes from here.

For the Aiden and Bennett events, that just comes from what we learn in-game, and the yellow cells indicate the duration of the bonus storyline, which will "highly likely already have it's culmination" by Playable day 16. But since so far it looks to be Dylan/Ellie, and he doesn't have an event that day, there is no yellow cell for that day.

 

[Hlextor]

I only ever quote L&P, as directly as I can. If it's from his Patreon page, usually is via either farrah or Old dog. Occasionally it's from a post in this thread, like how we know Playable day 15 is a single day long event. You didn't follow the link in to the listing of Dylan events in my post? That would have told you for Dylan, and the reason I included the link.

For the Ellie events, the information comes from here.

For the Aiden and Bennett events, that just comes from what we learn in-game, and the yellow cells indicate the duration of the bonus storyline, which will "highly likely already have it's culmination" by Playable day 16. But since so far it looks to be Dylan/Ellie, and he doesn't have an event that day, there is no yellow cell for that day.

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

I doubt it, considering the whole point of the Yoga event, even when you play it from Sophia's POV and the lesbian route like I do, is the line from Marie "By the way, your son's really a cutie! Feel free to bring him along occasionally." If it was just a matter of appeasing Dylan fans, he did that with Dylan's POV. The fact that the Dylan/Marie path is unavoidable (because I tried), implies it's rather integral to his storyline, even moreso than Logan is to Ellie's.

 

[Hlextor]

Yeah, Dylan and Marie could be a possible relationship. Hopefully without a cut with Sophia as like with Emma.

 

[nexer]

The lesbian's lovers, definitely, don't think straight
First of all we have to clarify who is lesbian or bisexual. Julia is lesbian and Ellie is bisexual. Sophia is a bisexual as Patricia.
But here is my point of view.
Ellie, as bisexual, in real life, must always shower alone because shower with a woman it's like the shower between a hetero man/woman.
A bisexual woman or two, Sophia and Ellie our case, has/have to tell her shower companion before that she is bisexual otherwise is a perv and is peeping.
Sophia already knows that she is bisexual but doesn't accept plainly. It's a 38 years old woman with with 18 years of marriage behind her.
Ellie knows it too. She knows that she is bisexual an what she is doing is perv behavior, like a gay in males shower. What I'm saying is true


And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

 

[farrah]

The lesbian's lovers, definitely, doesn't think straight
First of all we have to clarify who is lesbian or bisexual. Julia is lesbian and Ellie is bisexual. Sophia is a bisexual as Patricia.
But here is my point of view.
Ellie, as bisexual, in real life, must always shower alone because shower with a woman it's like the shower between a hetero man/woman.
A bisexual woman or two, Sophia and Ellie our case, has/have to tell her shower companion before that she is bisexual otherwise is a perv and is peeping.
Sophia already knows that she is bisexual but doesn't accept plainly. It's a 38 years old woman with with 18 years of marriage behind her.
Ellie knows it too. She knows that she is bisexual an what she is doing is perv behavior, like a gay in males shower. What I'm saying is true
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And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

I see Ellie is horny and touched her wet bikini

 

[Old Dog]

I see Ellie is horny and touched her wet bikini

Yea a good indication of maybe a 3 some between them.
I am going to be nice to you today farrah

 

[koil74]

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thanks

 

[Alley_Cat]

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And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

 

[Old Dog]

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

No body expected Dylan to be there but there was hints.
We where told that there would be choices to be made to be made for the yoga event.We all assumed that it would be yoga.Naked yoga or shower scene and we all missed the ball completely,the same thing happened with Alyssa and her mysterious friend.
So the hints where there

 

[nexer]

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Right, that man isn't. Like I say, I can't imagine it.
Ellie is bisexual. She says so herself, she admits it but Ellie doesn't know that her mother is. So, she showers with a straight
woman and doesn't tell Sophia that she likes women, sexually. IMO it's peeping. She's a peeping Tom.
She doesn't try to calm down, relax, love her mother like a daughter but seeks to fulfill her sexual fantasies. At best, both: a daughter's love and sex.

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

True, but, tell me: "a straight man enjoys seeing a bunch of men in sexual situations"?

 

[Old Dog]

Right, that man isn't. Like I say, I can't imagine it.
Ellie is bisexual. She says so herself, she admits it but Ellie doesn't know that her mother is. So, she showers with a straight
woman and doesn't tell Sophia that she likes women, sexually. IMO it's peeping. She's a peeping Tom.
She doesn't try to calm down, relax, love her mother like a daughter but seeks to fulfill her sexual fantasies. At best, both: a daughter's love and sex.



True, but, tell me: "a straight man enjoys seeing a bunch of men in sexual situations"?

Maybe because Sophia has not yet accepted that she could be bi-sexual.
How can you say that Sophia doesn't know that Ellie likes women sexually when she is having a relationship with Julia,or where you talking about Sophia?
After what Julia/Sophia/Ellie/Patricia have done together I would think that Ellie could have a good idea about her mothers sexuality,even if Sophia has not come out and said it herself.