Rojouninco1

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Questions ? Will they be a follow up with Dylan self defense classes now that they took the boarding school out . And maybe Sophia can also join the classes . If you have a choice between not to mention the situation in the train station or telling Patricia the incident . So she could learn self defense classes . Cause Sophia first met the bullies when she went to the store to get lunch and especially when she went to see alden and they were there . It be something (y) ;) interesting . If you don't report the train station incident? And reporting it to the police or Patricia .
 

xxxorro

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Hi guys, I'm new here.

So first of all apologies because maybe this has been already discussed many times but... there are too many messages!
From what I understand, it seems that the first hetero extra-marital affair will take place during playable day 19, while the first lesbian one would be on playable day 16.

For the one on playable day 19, it seems there was a post by the dev which has been then deleted, so now that has again become a speculation since he may not be the case anymore (is that so?). And from the dev (dunno if from the same post) it will be with the "least expected person/character". Is that also part of the deleted post or this can be confirmed?
What about playable day 16, is that still relatively sure (considering he might change the plan again since there would be many releases in between) or again it is more a speculation.

Is there anything else that is known "for sure" about the planning because it has been said by the dev? (beside the planning for the upcoming playable day 13)?
Thanks!
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Hi guys, I'm new here.

So first of all apologies because maybe this has been already discussed many times but... there are too many messages!
From what I understand, it seems that the first hetero extra-marital affair will take place during playable day 19, while the first lesbian one would be on playable day 16.

For the one on playable day 19, it seems there was a post by the dev which has been then deleted, so now that has again become a speculation since he may not be the case anymore (is that so?). And from the dev (dunno if from the same post) it will be with the "least expected person/character". Is that also part of the deleted post or this can be confirmed?
What about playable day 16, is that still relatively sure (considering he might change the plan again since there would be many releases in between) or again it is more a speculation.

Is there anything else that is known "for sure" about the planning because it has been said by the dev? (beside the planning for the upcoming playable day 13)?
Thanks!
We don't know much of anything.

I've never heard of a lesbian affair on playable day 16, so this is news to me. Where did you see this?

Nothing is set in stone and anything could change. We only just got a good idea of playable day 13 about a week or two ago, and it's very Dylan heavy. Anything beyond that is almost completely unknown. We do know that there will be a time jump, and we suspect there may be at least one more time jump after that.
 

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Lust said that there were going to be 2 big steps forward in terms of Sophia's corruption, the first on day 13 and the second on day 16. I'm not sure if he actually stated what they were as that would be a pretty big spoiler and he doesn't seem to like doing major spoilers
 

GingerSweetGirl

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So it sounds like the old landmark of playable 19 has been thrown out and replaced with this new playable day 16 landmark.

If this is true about a big step forward on day 13, it would reinforce what I said earlier about day 12 being the end of the beginning. But only time will tell.
 

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It wasn't popular and was highly criticized. L&P didn't think it was a major plot point moving forward, so he decided to remove it from the game entirely.
Which didn't make sense, the people opposed to it would never see the scene and it fit perfectly with those on path where it did appear.
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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So it sounds like the old landmark of playable 19 has been thrown out and replaced with this new playable day 16 landmark.

If this is true about a big step forward on day 13, it would reinforce what I said earlier about day 12 being the end of the beginning. But only time will tell.
Day 13 could be a big step forward, which happens to be the big Dylan event on the back end of that day. If it truly is the big step forward, I would be curious how that would playout. During the mall dressing room event and the bikini show, the previous events with Dylan ended in a real stagnant place with the "Sex-Ed" theme, which there really wasn't any advancement to go anywhere. It would be interesting to see how L&P will manage that transition. I have serious doubts about how the storyline will transition well, with "Sex-Ed" being the catalyst of the corruption.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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Which didn't make sense, the people opposed to it would never see the scene and it fit perfectly with those on path where it did appear.
This topic has been covered to death, but I really didn't have a major problem with removing the twist. I felt like it was a really dark and twisted element to just casually throw into the story. I'm not a big Dylan fan so I don't have strong feelings about him either way, but I don't think L&P appreciated how gross the twist was. Even if you aren't on that path, it was still part of Dylan's character, and it wasn't something you could just ignore. If L&P wanted to include it, then it needed a lot more space to be developed- and if he didn't want to develop it then it was good to cut it entirely.

However, many people will argue that the twist atleast gave Dylan some character development; something that he needs badly. This I agree with. So since L&P has removed it, we need something to replace it so that Dylan can grow as a character. So far we haven't seen that element added to the game.

Day 13 could be a big step forward, which happens to be the big Dylan event on the back end of that day. If it truly is the big step forward, I would be curious how that would playout. During the mall dressing room event and the bikini show, the previous events with Dylan ended in a real stagnant place with the "Sex-Ed" theme, which there really wasn't any advancement to go anywhere. It would be interesting to see how L&P will manage that transition. I have serious doubts about how the storyline will transition well, with "Sex-Ed" being the catalyst of the corruption.
I felt like Dylan's progress moved a lot during the bikini fashion show, I mean the guy got Sophia to go pretty far. He's still way behind Ellie, but I can't say the fashion show left him "stagnant". But playable day 13 is definitely going to be his opportunity to make up a lot of ground.

Personally, I think the major step forward for Sophia is going to be related to Sam. With Sam's concert at the end of playable day 12, and then a couple scenes on playable day 13, I think he may be a focal point. I maintain that Dylan is the end game for the filthy route, Sophia will only go down that route after she's been corrupted deeply.

It's Ellie or Natalie. Ellie will be much better :love: Anyway, we can find out only after a few years.
Yeah, it can't be Allyssa. As hot as she is, too many players have ended their relationship with her. It's going to be one of the other girls. Ellie would make the most sense, but I think the incest element will hold Sophia back for now. Patricia would have the same problem, but I don't think it bothers her as much with Patricia.
 
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... Personally, I think the major step forward for Sophia is going to be related to Sam. With Sam's concert at the end of playable day 12, and then a couple scenes on playable day 13, I think he may be a focal point...
I think/hope you're right.

The last time-jump served a few purposes, but I think the L&P's main purpose was to get Sophia and the Parker family out of the 'New in town' vibe.
They're now familiar with the city, friends, routines, jobs and so forth - but not so familiar they can't still act as windows for exposition every time L&P needs to introduce a new thing to the player.

Originally, I assumed this upcoming jump forward was to give Sophia time to settle into her new moral stance on all the things she's done recently - but now I'm wondering if there isn't going to be some event that causes the jump.

Sam's big event is the last one of the day, maybe Sophia ends up doing something in the night that she will need time to make peace with...
Or maybe not.

Either way I'm looking forward to seeing how the story wraps around the jump.


Also, for anyone on the Mr. Bennett path who isn't keeping track, his deal giving Sophia two weeks to decide runs out on Day 31, which the time-jump puts at Playable day 17 now.
It's a Tuesday, middle of a school week, so possibly the Yes option to that blackmail results in Sophia saying Yes I will sleep with you... Some night later in the week.
 
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naughtynafz

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Hey guys. If I were to develop games like AWAM or other Renpy-based games, what skills do I need? Could someone who's familiar with this sort of game development help me with a detailed blueprint? Thanks!
play with daz 3d a lot... learn all aspects like getting assets, proper lighting, shaders, expressions, animations etc first. if you become quite familiar with daz 3d, then start making scripts with renpy and make renders with daz.
 

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Personally, I think the major step forward for Sophia is going to be related to Sam. With Sam's concert at the end of playable day 12, and then a couple scenes on playable day 13, I think he may be a focal point. I maintain that Dylan is the end game for the filthy route, Sophia will only go down that route after she's been corrupted deeply.
Yes, that could be a correct guess. L&P keeps pointing out that Sophia takes longer to open up to Dylan in a sexual way. He is her son, she loves him in a motherly way. She wants to help him. Her development with him is only achieved through the filthy points. So the other events will contribute to her opening up sexually to Dylan.
But I don't think sex between them will happen until the end of the game. Dylan has too many events with Sophia for that and is the second MC.

Day 13 will be the most important event. There should be a decisive turning moment here. If it ends up just touching their lingerie again, it would be a big disappointment.
 

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I felt like Dylan's progress moved a lot during the bikini fashion show, I mean the guy got Sophia to go pretty far. He's still way behind Ellie, but I can't say the fashion show left him "stagnant". But playable day 13 is definitely going to be his opportunity to make up a lot of ground.

Personally, I think the major step forward for Sophia is going to be related to Sam. With Sam's concert at the end of playable day 12, and then a couple of scenes on playable day 13, I think he may be a focal point. I maintain that Dylan is the end game for the filthy route. Sophia will only go down that route after she's been corrupted deeply.
Hmmm, I might have to disagree with you here. If you play the Mall and Pool scene again and read the text, you noticed that he went one step forward with the topless scene with you, Sophia, but based on Sex-Ed. Then she vows not to do that again, and the pool event was to allow her to get comfortable around him wearing more revealing clothing through bikinis, which she was getting comfortable and aroused during that scene.

At the end of the pool event with Dylan only, she was aroused with Dylan taking photos of her, but she was thinking about Liam, so the bar didn't really move much or at all. This is why I said the scene is now stagnant. This is why I'm not too fond of the Sex-Ed theme from the start, as it's a harder shell to crack to advance Sophia/Dylan's story and make it flow well and keep it in somewhat of a believable manner. Sophia's story with Ellie flowed very well up to this point where the barriers were easy to hurdle without too much of a challenge, but there was a challenge. He did a good job here with Sophia's and Ellie's story. If he chooses to use the time-lapse that he said will happen the next day, will L&P jump out of the Sex-Ed theme with it? That will leave a gap in the story, which will make me wonder how Sophia and Dylan managed to break that shell, and to me, that wouldn't be good either.

I see what you're saying about Sam's focal point, but because this game is based on the reader's choices. What if someone isn't playing Sophia/Sam's story? You couldn't incorporate that breaking point from Sam's time with Sophia's as you wouldn't see it because it's not part of the readers' storyline if they didn't pick it.

I agree that Sophia/Dylan's story will take place on the VN's back end, which takes longer to corrupt. Still, it's also why I think that story will be one and done with Dylan, and everyone else will have multiple intimate scenes with Sophia's scene there storyline is developing much faster.
 
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