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Bare boobs, sucking nipples ... no more. WTF, Dylan first :ROFLMAO:

Who will suck Sophia's nipples first? Ellie, Dylan,.................................................... / Sam!!! :sneaky:
Well my guess is Ellie because she is much nearer to her than the boys Julia already sucked it
 

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Or Sam, after the concert, is going to get drunk with his friends since it's in a bar.
Sophia will then take him home and during the trip, Sam will have wandering hands and say nonsense :cool:
In USA you have to be 21 to drink in a bar (unless he has fake id). You can be in a bar under 21 just can’t be served, maybe Sophia buys a pitcher or a bottle to take backstage with him
 

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I would like to add to your statement. I have no doubt whatsoever that in L&P's perfectionism and process that 2x - 3x more renders are generated than what makes the cut. Keeping in mind your averaging observations, if the update was to have say 800, it would be likely that at the very minimum 1600 in his process would be generated from we can logic out. More complications and challenges he has just means more trial and error IMO. Your math shows that L&P got lost in the weeds during this update and has a HUGE opportunity to learn from it and adjust. Just an observation.
Wow, sorry i did t catch your post earlier. I really do think L&P is just winging it, in terms of searching for the right pose, the right angle, doing tons and tons of tests before making a decision. Not the right approach. Should know what they are going for before even booting up the ol DAZ3d.
 
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L&P has to vastly improve his workflow process, otherwise this game is going to get abandoned.

If we're only getting half a day per update with his current rate of 2 updates a year, its going to take him 20+ years to get to playable day 30. If I understand correctly, he sets the scene up, waits for it to render than makes whatever changes and renders again? Wouldn't it be a lot quicker to hire someone to simply render his scenes so he can start working on the next ones? Of if he's concerned about leaks and what not are there cloud rendering services?
It's a third of a day now, not half. A third of a day each 5 months, for now.
 

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Wow, sorry i did t catch your post earlier. I really do think L&P is just winging it, in terms of searching for the right pose, the right angle, doing tons and tons of tests before making a decision. Not the right approach. Should know what they are going for before even booting up the ol DAZ3d.
Absolutely just winging it.
Even in terms of story, not just the renders, hence why I've been saying that he needs someone to assist him according to his needs for the next update. The chances of that happening are near 0 which begs the question: why is he so adamant in not accepting help (that does not include any of the rendering + assets) ?
 
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You know something, I never even considered the possibility that L&P is producing potentially hundreds of extra renders that get cut. That would explain why he says that he has already cut all of the unnecessary scenes possible. I mean, I don't agree with him, but if he's cutting hundreds of images then he could have an unconscious bias that everything that could be cut has been cut.

It's still really terrible project management.
 
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L&P says in his patron page:

The only chance to speed things up is to give some of the events to a stranger dev to develop, which I don't know, and have to trust him/her parts of my story!


I don't know why he thinks that that is the only way to speed up and make his life easier.. There's several sugestions we've given that doesn't involve giving render liberties to someone else.
 

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L&P says in his patron page:
I don't know why he thinks that that is the only way to speed up and make his life easier.. There's several sugestions we've given that doesn't involve giving render liberties to someone else.
We're trying...
Absolutely just winging it.
Even in terms of story, not just the renders, hence why I've been saying that he needs someone to assist him according to his needs for the next update. The chances of that happening are near 0 which begs the question: why is he so adamant in not accepting help (that does not include any of the rendering + assets) ?
I would happily take his rough script for the next update and shape it for them. Problem is, I don't think there is such a thing. I think there's a rough outline from which L&P boots up DAZ3d and goes, then fills in the script later. This is not a healthy approach IMHO, it's completely backwards. Should know what the characters are going to say and think and do, then compose and shoot. I am perfectly happy to be wrong on this point but I don't think there's much actual evidence to the contrary.
You know something, I never even considered the possibility that L&P is producing potentially hundreds of extra renders that get cut. That would explain why he says that he has already cut all of the unnecessary scenes possible. I mean, I don't agree with him, but if he's cutting hundreds of images then he could have an unconscious bias that everything that could be cut has been cut.

It's still really terrible project management.
Right, right! L&P is very likely cutting the results of one or more hours of fussing about with 3d models and poses and props and lighting and cameras over and over again. Just sketch out what you need, evaluate the sketches, then build and shoot.

I fully understand (having my own fair share of failings in many different endeavors) that changing one's approach is difficult and disorienting. I do appreciate that my opinions don't count for shit, too. But maybe, just maybe, pulling out the ol' Dixon Tigonderoga #2 and a sheaf of blank paper and spending a day or two planning things out, and then sticking to that plan, could save DAYS of wasted trial and error.
 
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