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But I don't see Patricia wanting to have sex with another man without Carl's permission. She has almost a perfect life.
Firstly it appears that she and Carl are happily married with an active sex life. Secondly he is rich enough that she lacks for pretty much nothing financially and has a stunning house with pool in a place with great climate. Thirdly is the fact that their relationship is solid enough that he will let her fool around, knowing that she will keep within limits.

Patricia IS a tease. She will happily fool around with Jason and Heru, or with Dylan or even with Sophia. But I think she has clear boundaries which she won't cross. Ad for those that would try and push her beyond her boundaries, sh can go all Desert Eagle on their ass!!

We know from the early stages of the game that she thinks her big sister is too uptight and unadventurous. I think this partly why she wants Sophia to loosen up. There might also be some genuine sexual attraction there as well. Add to that the love and affection that clearly exists between them and I feel that Patricia thinks she can fool around and have a lot f sexual fun with Sophia yet knowing that Sophia would never hurt her.

Others have previously spoken about how that, although Patricia is initially a sexually liberating influence on Sophia, eventually she might become a restraining influence on Sophia. Patricia and Carl have a good enough relationship that they have even talked about her fooling around, but with clear boundaries. This is totally meant as a contrast to Sophia and Liam that completely fail to communicate with each other in respects of sexual wants and needs.

I have said before I think s a consequence of their marrying and having kids so young, with hints that Liam was Sophia's first serious relationship (ignoring her college sexual awakening). So Sophia can't draw on that experience of previous relationships. She has defined herself for 17-18 years literally as a wife and mother, and has until now never faced up what HER wants and needs are. So when she will eventually go off the rails she is likely to do it big time. Hence probably needing Patricia to try to prevent her going TOO far.
You forgot to point out she also owns a Deagle. Just Sayin'.
 

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But I don't see Patricia wanting to have sex with another man without Carl's permission. She has almost a perfect life.
Firstly it appears that she and Carl are happily married with an active sex life. Secondly he is rich enough that she lacks for pretty much nothing financially and has a stunning house with pool in a place with great climate. Thirdly is the fact that their relationship is solid enough that he will let her fool around, knowing that she will keep within limits.

Patricia IS a tease. She will happily fool around with Jason and Heru, or with Dylan or even with Sophia. But I think she has clear boundaries which she won't cross. Ad for those that would try and push her beyond her boundaries, sh can go all Desert Eagle on their ass!!

We know from the early stages of the game that she thinks her big sister is too uptight and unadventurous. I think this partly why she wants Sophia to loosen up. There might also be some genuine sexual attraction there as well. Add to that the love and affection that clearly exists between them and I feel that Patricia thinks she can fool around and have a lot f sexual fun with Sophia yet knowing that Sophia would never hurt her.

Others have previously spoken about how that, although Patricia is initially a sexually liberating influence on Sophia, eventually she might become a restraining influence on Sophia. Patricia and Carl have a good enough relationship that they have even talked about her fooling around, but with clear boundaries. This is totally meant as a contrast to Sophia and Liam that completely fail to communicate with each other in respects of sexual wants and needs.

I have said before I think s a consequence of their marrying and having kids so young, with hints that Liam was Sophia's first serious relationship (ignoring her college sexual awakening). So Sophia can't draw on that experience of previous relationships. She has defined herself for 17-18 years literally as a wife and mother, and has until now never faced up what HER wants and needs are. So when she will eventually go off the rails she is likely to do it big time. Hence probably needing Patricia to try to prevent her going TOO far.
I think it's completely unclear at the moment what Patricia wants and how far she will go. She wants sexual incestuous fun with Sophia and is apparently ready to involve Dylan as well. That in itself is madness. Liam doesn't play the slightest role in this game.
That Carl said that his wife can have fun with women but definitely not with men doesn't automatically mean Patricia thinks the same way. It gives the impression that she thinks Carl has given her something like permission. Patricia plays with fire with Sophia and Dylan and I can't see that she wants to step on the brakes at some point.
I think she wants to break her chains and she wants to do that to someone she trusts, who can cover her if necessary; the way she behaves, she has already gone much further in her fatasy and now she believes she has found someone with Sophia to implement these fantasies.
She will step on the brakes, but only when Sophia begins to destroy her own life and but only if Sophia succumbs to temptations that were not initiated by Patricia.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I agree that it's impossible right now for us to truly know Patricia's role in the story, but I agree with Poser_Voyeur on his theory. I think it makes a lot more thematic sense for Patricia to be a counter weight to Sophia. I think having Patricia act as someone who will push Sophia, but also restrain her, could make Patricia a very interesting character. It's totally possible that Patricia is just another filthy character that exists for sexy purposes and nothing more. Or maybe she can be either a restraining force on Sophia or corrupted by Sophia depending on the player's decisions. All things are possible with her, but I hope that she has more depth than just another sex partner.
 

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That wont work and frankly if he wanted to push renders quicker he would just need an iray render farm, which is cheap, but for some reason, he won't use it.
At this point you or anyone here recomending actions that makes the development quicker are wasting your breath. The dev isn't interested in making development quicker.

The slower it gets, the better.
Thank you very much for your answer. Obviously, I have a game that has only the rendering stage now, but I cannot overcome the lighting issue. Can I request a purchase link from daz
 

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And some of us look forward to.
Quite right, many are waiting. :)
L&P has laid the foundation for a vast and exciting story. One sadness is that without a team of developers, the development of the game will not only be delayed in time, but will certainly lose in the quality of content and completeness of disclosure of potentially interesting events. One person is physically unable to cope with such a volume of work. :(

A little higher, the guys discussed the plot associated with the role of Patricia. We can bring up a variety of subjects for discussion regarding various fetishes. But the understanding that the time when we will become witnesses of these events is so far from today, greatly saddens many of us.
After all, we come here in order to receive positive emotions, but a long wait creates an extremely negative background. Here is the dilemma.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Quite right, many are waiting. :)
L&P has laid the foundation for a vast and exciting story. One sadness is that without a team of developers, the development of the game will not only be delayed in time, but will certainly lose in the quality of content and completeness of disclosure of potentially interesting events. One person is physically unable to cope with such a volume of work. :(
That's why I'm worried that the only outcome for this game is that it will be abandoned. This five month wait is bad enough, but the real problem is that this five month wait portends disaster in the future. I fear that one day L&P is going to start work on a new update and it's just going to be too big, too complicated, too overwhelming, and he'll walk away from the game. This update grew to 1,000 renders, but what happens when an update grows to 1,200 or 1,500, or 2,000 renders? What happens when L&P anticipates needing 1,000 renders, only to realize that he needs 50% more renders, and months more of work to complete an update?

At some point the game is going to become a boondoggle. There will be too many storylines, needing too many renders, all requiring too much time, for an update that will advance the game too little to justify all of the investment. This is exactly the point of diminishing returns I've been screaming about for months.

This is why I've become so vocal in my frustration. It isn't just that this update is taking too long, the real problem is that it's only going to get worse. Without significant changes to the development process, this game won't survive to 2024.
 

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That's why I'm worried that the only outcome for this game is that it will be abandoned. This five month wait is bad enough, but the real problem is that this five month wait portends disaster in the future. I fear that one day L&P is going to start work on a new update and it's just going to be too big, too complicated, too overwhelming, and he'll walk away from the game. This update grew to 1,000 renders, but what happens when an update grows to 1,200 or 1,500, or 2,000 renders? What happens when L&P anticipates needing 1,000 renders, only to realize that he needs 50% more renders, and months more of work to complete an update?

At some point the game is going to become a boondoggle. There will be too many storylines, needing too many renders, all requiring too much time, for an update that will advance the game too little to justify all of the investment. This is exactly the point of diminishing returns I've been screaming about for months.

This is why I've become so vocal in my frustration. It isn't just that this update is taking too long, the real problem is that it's only going to get worse. Without significant changes to the development process, this game won't survive to 2024.
Agree with you. The thing going completely off track is the number of renders. Each successive day is getting bigger than the previous one. His pace has been more or less the same from the Start till now. This day is already 1463 renders with the next release. Plus the Sam update is expected around 800 again taking it to 2000+ renders in one day. Day 17,18,19 alone are more than 50% of the game.
From what I think other than PD day 15 everyday will follow this pattern. And once the cheating aspect starts the days are going to get even bigger

If we tell him this his answer will be that some days are just busier than the others and that's end of argument. He does not realize that since days are getting so big he needs help to deliver them. 5-6 renders per day will never be able to finish this game.
 
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Couple of things here are worth unpacking a bit more:
This update grew to 1,000 renders, but what happens when an update grows to 1,200 or 1,500, or 2,000 renders? What happens when L&P anticipates needing 1,000 renders, only to realize that he needs 50% more renders, and months more of work to complete an update?
I believe you are correct in using the word "when" rather than if. However, he doesn't "realize he needs 50% more renders" - he just makes a bunch more renders and then decides they are needed because, well, he wanted them, and they're here, and obviously he wouldn't have made them if they weren't needed, cuz that would be mad loco en la cabeza, so the fact that they exist must mean they are needed. So having made them they are now needed. Because no one would invest so much time on things that are not needed.

The tortured logic L&P employs to justify this self-congratulatory exercise is actually, and somewhat ironically, a masturbatory excess and not much more.
At some point the game is going to become a boondoggle.
Uh, breaking news everyone: we're already there. If this update blowing up to more than double its planned render count wasn't enough evidence, the fact that there is something called a "Dylan/Emma" coming up should be all the confirmation we need.
 
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