Talcum Powder

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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
Quoting myself from April (#56,983), my feelings about Dylan-centric point of view scenes:

See, that's a great story line, but it's not Sophia's story line and that is where I want this story to focus.

If L&P decides this part of Sophia's world, occurring outside of her perception and beyond her knowledge, needs to be explored then they should create a spin off and call it The Lusty Horny Late-Teenage Boy Pursues His Mother and His Sister and His Aunt and All Their Friends And Associates.

Overview:
Dylan, a [man of legal age in your jurisdiction] recently moved to beautiful, sunny San Alejo, where he starts developing strong sexual urges towards just about every female that is a blood relation, and even a few who aren't. With so many hot women around and so many men (and women!) pursuing them, Dylan struggles to compete for their attention and affection.

Will Dylan have to be devious or charming in his efforts to beat out everyone pursuing his mother's jewels? Will Dylan even be able to pull his uptight and conservative mother away from her marriage vows? Will Dylan be able to rescue his mother from the blackmail plot being carried out under the flimsiest of pretenses by the ultra-rich school-aged gang leader with a sweet ride and fantastic hair, who is pushing her towards deviancy and debauchery? Can Dylan convince his sometimes bitchy but incredibly hot bisexual-experimentalist sister to come along for the ride? So many women, so many possibilities!

Some decisions maybe have to be made unwillingly.
And in the end he has to ask himself… how far can he go.​


Sorry [snip] Dylan enthusiasts, but fuck that.
 

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Even when Jason and Haru know they're sisters? I don't think Sophia is comfortable with people knowing what she gets up to with Dylan and Ellie. She even keeps most of what she gets up to with Ellie from Liam.
Precisely because Haru and Jason know that the two are sisters, they will see any incestuous lesbian interaction between them as an attempt to turn them on and seduce them. As long as the two sisters stay above the belt with their actions, I see no reason whatsoever for restraint. Because they are grown women and sisters, the two of them will always assume that everything they see is only for the purpose of playing with them (the boys). Only Sophia could go too far and stop the game. Since I make the decisions for Sophia as a player, I have nothing to worry about.
As a starting point for the beginning of the game, I see an erotic sculpture or picture with which the two women can then be compared. This has already been suggested by others here in the forum.
 

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If in the game Dylan is supposed to have an affair with 9 or even more girls and ladies! Then it becomes extremely interesting to me, how many sexual partners will Sofia have?
I guess Sorfia should have more sex partners than her son? She's in charge of the AWAM!

Very interesting, what are the opinions of the public on this matter?
I'm thinking most of those 9 could and should be shared with Sophia!!!
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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At the Yoga event if you've doing Aiden's tasks and have maximum relationship with Patricia, she invites Sophia to her friend Zoe's horse ranch, about 40 miles out from San Alejo. Pretty much, if not all, of playable day 15.

I believe if, like me, you're not doing Aiden's tasks, Sophia will get invitation on playable day 14.

I believe Sophia will be able to have up to five. Liam, Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia.
I know it's years in the future, but this update will be an absolute nightmare because of all the new environments. If it's going to be an all day event, it may take two years to complete at the current rate of development.
 

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I'm thinking most of those 9 could and should be shared with Sophia!!!
Where are people getting 9 women for Dylan from? I know Amber, Emma and Sophia are gonna happen Marie is all but assured and Ellie and Christine might not even happen but if they do thats 6 at most and only one per playthrough.
 
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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
Quoting myself from April (#56,983), my feelings about Dylan-centric point of view scenes:

See, that's a great story line, but it's not Sophia's story line and that is where I want this story to focus.

If L&P decides this part of Sophia's world, occurring outside of her perception and beyond her knowledge, needs to be explored then they should create a spin off and call it The Lusty Horny Late-Teenage Boy Pursues His Mother and His Sister and His Aunt and All Their Friends And Associates.

Overview:
Dylan, a [man of legal age in your jurisdiction] recently moved to beautiful, sunny San Alejo, where he starts developing strong sexual urges towards just about every female that is a blood relation, and even a few who aren't. With so many hot women around and so many men (and women!) pursuing them, Dylan struggles to compete for their attention and affection.

Will Dylan have to be devious or charming in his efforts to beat out everyone pursuing his mother's jewels? Will Dylan even be able to pull his uptight and conservative mother away from her marriage vows? Will Dylan be able to rescue his mother from the blackmail plot being carried out under the flimsiest of pretenses by the ultra-rich school-aged gang leader with a sweet ride and fantastic hair, who is pushing her towards deviancy and debauchery? Can Dylan convince his sometimes bitchy but incredibly hot bisexual-experimentalist sister to come along for the ride? So many women, so many possibilities!

Some decisions maybe have to be made unwillingly.
And in the end he has to ask himself… how far can he go.​


Sorry [snip] Dylan enthusiasts, but fuck that.
farrah exaggerates by thinking that everything is about Dylan. He overlooks the fact that Ellie has already reached much more with Sophia than any other character in the game (filthy route). Especially Dylan. Ellie has a huge head start over Dylan with Sophia, though he may have more game events. farrah has just only withdrawal symptoms. ;) And why does everything focus on Dylan? Because he is simply the cash machine of the game.
 

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farrah exaggerates by thinking that everything is about Dylan. He overlooks the fact that Ellie has already reached much more with Sophia than any other character in the game (filthy route). Especially Dylan. Ellie has a huge head start over Dylan with Sophia, though he may have more game events. farrah has just only withdrawal symptoms. ;) And why does everything focus on Dylan? Because he is simply the cash machine of the game.
I'm mean the amount of screen time. The Dylan's content is getting bigger and bigger, some of the discussion here is already going as if he is the main protagonist of the game.
I have nothing against Dylan. But i think that only the two Dylan's storylines should be left, with Sophia and with Ellie. Everything else is a waste of time and distracts from developing other, more interesting and high-quality storylines.
But I agree, Dylan is the cash machine. But he makes money with incest, it's obvious.
 

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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
Dylan could fuck Sophie/Ellie/Emma/Amber/Marie and maybe Christine/Claire/Patricia Too. so far ellie Sophie/Julia/Logan/The basketball player and maybe Sam.
but Ellie gets the Best Scenes: :love: :love: :love:
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I'm mean the amount of screen time. The Dylan's content is getting bigger and bigger, some of the discussion here is already going as if he is the main protagonist of the game.
I have nothing against Dylan. But i think that only the two Dylan's storylines should be left, with Sophia and with Ellie. Everything else is a waste of time and distracts from developing other, more interesting and high-quality storylines.
But I agree, Dylan is the cash machine. But he makes money with incest, it's obvious.
It looks like she is going to be quite active in upcoming updates, Per Apollodore post.

Playable Day - 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 26, 28, and L&P said he is very likely Ellie will have content on the no days, which would be 20, 22, 25

But as Hlextor said, look at the level and difference in progression.

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Shower vs. Jogging, Making out vs. Touchy-Feely Fabric... lockerxx said it right, "Ellie gets the Best Scenes" right now.

' she just disappears completely ' ?

PD22 for Ellie >>>> nothing and this has been for a very long time.

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Sonny86

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Where are people getting 9 women for Dylan from? I know Amber, Emma and Sophia are gonna happen Marie is all but assured and Ellie and Christine might not even happen but if they do thats 6 at most and only one per playthrough.
Claire, Alyssa, maybe Nathalie, share Jules with ellie
 

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I'm mean the amount of screen time. The Dylan's content is getting bigger and bigger, some of the discussion here is already going as if he is the main protagonist of the game.
I have nothing against Dylan. But i think that only the two Dylan's storylines should be left, with Sophia and with Ellie. Everything else is a waste of time and distracts from developing other, more interesting and high-quality storylines.
But I agree, Dylan is the cash machine. But he makes money with incest, it's obvious.
Exactly: Is Dylan dating Emma or Marie what people are pledging $$ for? Fuck no. They are hoping for any of, Dylan + Sophia or Dylan + Patricia or Dylan + Ellie or Dylan + Sophia + Nathalie or Dylan + Ellie + Nathalie or Dylan + Ellie + Julia or Dylan + Sophia + Ellie + Nathalie or Dylan + Sophia + Ellie + Julia or any of those combinations plus any other girl in the story. All of these combinations are with one or the other or both of Sophia and Ellie. No one gives two shits (by comparison) about a solo mission with the cute girl from the hair salon. Yeah, Marie is fucking hot but so are a lot of girls in a lot of adult VN, that's not what's new. Oh, and for the record, a young male POV chasing incest isn't exactly new and refreshing either.

I'd much rather the story be AWaMaDau
 

Atton563

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Claire, Alyssa, maybe Nathalie, share Jules with ellie
Completely forgot about Patrica. I can't see Alyssa sleeping with him see seem's completely focused on Sophia and I don't think she has shown even a little intrest in him, unless it's going to happen because Sophia picks Zac over her or something of the sort. Nathalie is part of the good wife path I think and thats supposed to be a threesome with Liam. I know Claire is supposed to be a bit of a flirt but I think thats about as far as it will go just flirting and teasing him.
 
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