VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Poser_Voyeur]

I agree with you and I have had these same thoughts myself for quite sometime now as I didn't like the direction that the game now seems to be going.
I am no longer a patron so please don't ask me for teasers as I cannot provide them.

Genuine wow KillJoys
I was counting on you as the relatively sane person who was both a Patreon member and on this thread regularly.
What was the final straw for you quitting as Patreon member?
I have always appreciated the snippets of info that you were able to give us non-Patreon members.
Thanks

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

L&P could save the scene with a discussion between Patricia and Sophia about how they will dress. It could be a loophole, all intended as a way to shock the audience.
Otherwise, the lack of a bra will be a red flag for Patricia, and suspicions should show up in the discussion between them.

If Patricia does in fact act as the voice of reason in the choice of attire, then it will be yet another thing that I am grateful to Patricia for.

 

[Old Dog]

Genuine wow KillJoys
I was counting on you as the relatively sane person who was both a Patreon member and on this thread regularly.
What was the final straw for you quitting as Patreon member?
I have always appreciated the snippets of info that you were able to give us non-Patreon members.
Thanks

I will PM you Poser_Voyeur as I don't want to start off another discussion on the subject in the forums

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

This scene sums it up for me.
It is something that you would of seen in National Lampoon's Animal House (1978) or in Porky's(1981) while funny at the time not so much these days.
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If Sophia was doing this, then heck yes would be fully in agreement with you.
But this is a young teen, probably 17 or 18, presumably teasing Dylan.

So I don't have problem with Christina acting like this once, albeit it might get tiresome if, like most things, was repeated.
If he starts doing anything similar with Sophia then.....

 

[Talcum Powder]

My thoughts on the 2nd job scene are just that I don't have a problem with the fetish portrayed but the way it went was not very good. He rushed it unlike all his other storylines and it came off as a scene thriving on porn logic.

As I stated before for this scene, all he needed to do was show that Sophia tried and tried and tried, a lot of different ways but failed to get the kids to understand and in the next class ( day ) accepted after trying once again. He didn't even need to spend time making full fledged scenes for that. Montages of Sophia trying different methods would be enough. Within 30 renders he could have shown Sophia having tried over 4-5 methods of teaching. An experienced teacher giving up immediately and letting the boys strip was indeed a poor and lazy effort. Which is indeed shocking considering how much effort he generally puts into the scenes. None of the other Storylines ever derailed so much from logic. So it is an exception. Though still not as bad as some other games I have played but from Awam standards not good at all

That's a great point. I am a broken record (and have been for a while on several topics), but if a picture is worth a thousand words then why does L&P need 42 pages of script? He shouldn't.

A montage of the marker board with various sketches and diagrams all crossed out, crazy arrows going all over the place, the kids looking confused and Sophia giving a facepalm or two. Could have said so, so, so much more with fewer renders - I don't even think it would take 30, he could have set up a scene that fades/cross-cuts or whatever through a series of images with zero dialogue. In each the poses are changed, the content of the board changed, in some shots the boys are laughing and in others looking genuinely lost, and in all of them Sophia stood there in increasing frustration and resignation. Break the montage with - "All right boys, this isn't working. Let's try a different approach."

 

[Talcum Powder]

This scene sums it up for me.
It is something that you would of seen in National Lampoon's Animal House (1978) or in Porky's(1981) while funny at the time not so much these days.
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You know, you're right - this definitely has that 1980's horny college kids spring break/summer vacation movie vibe. Despite being sexy and alluring, it is also, and again (and sadly) very derivative and unimaginative.

 

[Old Dog]

If Sophia was doing this, then heck yes would be fully in agreement with you.
But this is a young teen, probably 17 or 18, presumably teasing Dylan.

So I don't have problem with Christina acting like this once, albeit it might get tiresome if, like most things, was repeated.
If he starts doing anything similar with Sophia then.....

A young teen who has to re-enact a scene from a film made before she was even born?
There are much better examples out there

 

[Talcum Powder]

I agree with you and I have had these same thoughts myself for quite sometime now as I didn't like the direction that the game now seems to be going.
I am no longer a patron so please don't ask me for teasers as I cannot provide them.

??!! That's ... well, surprising I guess.

 

[Old Dog]

??!! That's ... well, surprising I guess.

Time will tell if I right or not,we will just have to wait and see.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

GOD NO.......................

Quiet! I hear he is avoiding this site like the plaque (The one that wiped half of Europe) but, loose lips sink ships so we must be bery bery quiet!

 

[Talcum Powder]

So ummm, I only recently discovered this game. Don't know much of anything about the history of its development. But reading the last 3-4 pages of complaining about clothes and "class" this is the kind of vibes I'm getting from this community:

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I can see how a new entrant to this particular forum would come to that conclusion. But when you consider the following it kind of makes sense:

• Suffice it to say, it's a long time between updates and the updates don't cover a long time (just 1/3 day currently)
• There aren't any gameplay elements (until the hobos in the park) that lead to "mini-game" or "puzzle" problems that spark the "that was innovative" or "how do you get past this obstacle" discussions.
• There isn't enough hard content to keep the "dude who's she gonna fuck next" crowd engaged.

So what you're left with is folks who, generally speaking, are

1. Really invested in the game/story
2. Appreciative of its breathtaking visual quality
3. Patient (or at least not really impatient) and willing to wait for hard content because if that's all they were looking for they know they can find literally trillions of terabytes of free porn elsewhere,
4. Actually reading the dialogue and looking at the images (and this thread)
5. Making a genuine attempt to reprocess their own thoughts and feelings about this game in the context of everything they've seen and read up to this point.

The shorter version of this is: Yes, we did, and no, we are not ashamed, to have spent three or four weeks in the spring of 2021 discussing why the fuck there were seven (yes, exactly seven) pigeons in that park and what kind of mind-fuckery L&P was attempting with that maneuver.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Time will tell if I right or not,we will just have to wait and see.

That is at least as good a cliffhanger tag-line as "... she has to ask herself: How far can she go"

 

[Old Dog]

That is at least as good a cliffhanger tag-line as "... she has to ask herself: How far can she go"

Or " I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Don't give the dev ideas nexer or he will be adding golden showers next

Not without a poll he won't.

 

[NewTricks]

U gotta be kidding me! A game with so much content and size and there is not a single sex scene.
Thank God I asked about this before downloading it.

This is not accurate. Strictly speaking. If you go down the good girl path there is plenty of sex with the husband. However, the bad wife and lesbian paths are a bubbling cauldron of disappointment filled with unconsummated incest and a paucity of adultery. Mostly just slap and tickle. All foreplay, no biscuit. It is like some sadistic experiment done on lab lats to discover if they will commit suicide if they are sexually overstimulated without release.

 

[Old Dog]

This is not accurate. Strictly speaking. If you go down the good girl path there is plenty of sex with the husband. However, the bad wife and lesbian paths are a bubbling cauldron of disappointment filled with unconsummated incest and a paucity of adultery. Mostly just slap and tickle. All foreplay, no biscuit. It is like some sadistic experiment done on lab lats to discover if they will commit suicide if they are sexually overstimulated without release.

"All foreplay, no biscuit".Love it

 

[hzjujk]

I was thinking something like that too!
How funny would be that Patricia tells Sophia: "Sis, what the hell!? What's that thing that you are wearing, boob pockets?? (© GingerSweetGirl ) Come on, get back in there and put something more appropriate!!!".

Jokes aside, I'm curious to see if L&P will spend a few words in the dialogues to address the dress issue, like he did for e.g. Aiden event to address the suit size, the changing inside the store etc (not the bag, though ), which I like to think as a sort of answer to the (sometimes, silly) issues that have been raised in this forum.
I know, it's a little bit pretentious to think that we can influence the game, especially since he's not posting here anymore . But, who knows, maybe he's still reading every now and then to have a laugh to our theories (or getting angry at the critiques). For sure it's a pity that there is no constructive exchange.

If you take a look at Patricia face, she looks amused and carried away. I think there will be a comment somewhere between ridicule and something suggestive.
There are only a few things that interest me about the Sam event. Sure we will see a divine looking Sophia. We'll see bare breasts and fumble a little and maybe a romantic kiss (gag). But what really interests me about the evening: is there a call from Liam who ends the event with Sam? If there is a call you can decide to stay as a player and decide that Sophia will lie to her husband a second time that day? And if you don't do it and accept Cathy's invitation, you won't have enough points in the future to continue following the Sam route?

 

[Talcum Powder]

If you take a look at Patricia face, she looks amused and carried away. I think there will be a comment somewhere between ridicule and something suggestive.
There are only a few things that interest me about the Sam event. Sure we will see a divine looking Sophia. We'll see bare breasts and fumble a little and maybe a romantic kiss (gag). But what really interests me about the evening: is there a call from Liam who ends the event with Sam? If there is a call you can decide to stay as a player and decide that Sophia will lie to her husband a second time that day? And if you don't do it and accept Cathy's invitation, you won't have enough points in the future to continue following the Sam route?

I have also posited there may be the option to opt out of the Andy/Cathy event. I'm not optimistic but I am hopeful, that we will be allowed to choose to stay.

 

[Scarlet56]

U gotta be kidding me! A game with so much content and size and there is not a single sex scene.
Thank God I asked about this before downloading it.

There are, but certainly not the way you'd expect.

 

[BorgiaBou]

I will PM you Poser_Voyeur as I don't want to start off another discussion on the subject in the forums

C'mon man don't let us hang now, tell us what was the reason? Its not like we have someting else to discuss untill the new update is out...