VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 3325933]

Looking at the amazing pace the game storyline progressed till now ,I guess maybe after 4-5 years we can finally expect good content with Sophia and other NPC's

I am unaware of your actual expectations however, I would not set sights too high. That way we can be pleasantly surprised. Just Sayin'!

 

[lockerxx]

Unfortunately, we have not moved for several days. The development process has slowed down significantly.
I would like everything to be fine for him and the work would go faster.
But nothing depends on us.
He may have problems of both a personal and creative nature. Perhaps something is not working out. I don't know what to think, but it's too slow.
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maybe today we got another 5% in Rendered Scenes.

 

[mimhof007]

Brother in your days of contemplation seek out the many oftimes wasted words I have committed to the written record on this very subject.

People put pressure on the Dev, or something else happened & the Bennett blackmail story was strangled at birth, or rather it was prematurely curtailed. Many who have no problem whatsoever with an inexperienced, some might say disturbed, son fucking his own mother & even perhaps making her pregnant with all the dire consequences which could result & not to underplay two unnatural relationships with a daughter & sister, were outraged at his prescence, posturing, plotting & primal urges.

Blackmail went away, or should I say it was about to go. '??Morality??' had won & all was right with Sophia's world. No degree of consanguinity was too great to prevent the eventual consummation of a 'loving' yet lives wrecking, family breaking, relationship. No detestable coercion from a sleazy chancer could spoil the dream anymore. All of this with nary a word of complaint from me up to that time about the incest, which I heartily detest but which I had never thought of trying to decrease, or belittle for those who think it's a wonderful, taboo-breaking, fantasy fulfilment. This story is, when all's said & done a work of fiction is it not?

Then along came Aiden. It seemed the Dev required a blackmail element after all. Cue a re-run of the wailing & gnashing of teeth. It was at this point that I put fingers to keyboard & began a long-running defence of the blackmail, however mild vanilla the AWAM flavoured version happens to be. [& folks, I sincerely hope it gets much harder for the blackmail haters to tolerate & that very soon]. Common in games & a regular feature in corruption stories as it is, I have never seen such a huge outpouring of indignation against it as occurs on this thread. It seemed to me that there should be some different POVs represented.

All of this does not mean that I wish any long-term damage to the MC. Anyone doubting this can read the misgivings & trepidation that I enunciated upon seeing the romper & the biker bar but again these were worries cast adrift.

Now as you might surmise, given the majority view apparent on this thread, by which I mean those who can be bothered to post, my stance was not likely to win friends & influence people. There's not much I can do about that Good Brother, except agree to disagree. I came to the game as an adult, in the full knowledge that it would contain elements which I could not condone, or even less, be entertained by & I commend this view to all those who deplore my prescence & postings.

So, in the last analysis, I don't really care what anybody thinks about the blackmail or me, because I don't expect to change anyone's views & I certainly won't change mine.

I believe the Dev was going to cut Aiden short also but I contributed a significant amount and asked for Aiden to keep going. I think, actually, Aiden and the Apostles was all part of the plan, but I'm not sure.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I believe the Dev was going to cut Aiden short also but I contributed a significant amount and asked for Aiden to keep going. I think, actually, Aiden and the Apostles was all part of the plan, but I'm not sure.

I don't see how... Aiden's tasks are tied into Dylan's Arc unless he was going to remove Aiden completely. If he did that, then he would have to rewrite Sophia/Dylan's story. He has one of two solutions that would need to be applied in order for him to be removed.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Here's hoping the second the Sam event is done, the Cathy Andy event being short will jump it to 100%.

When did this Cathy Andy event even pop up in discussion? I feel like it was till recently that it became a thing, before all I remember was

Nat
Dylan/Ellie
The concert

Being confirmed for this update.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Here's hoping the second the Sam event is done, the Cathy Andy event being short will jump it to 100%.

When did this Cathy Andy event even pop up in discussion? I feel like it was till recently that it became a thing, before all I remember was

Nat
Dylan/Ellie
The concert

Being confirmed for this update.

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I believe it's covered under the Bonus Storyline, which was moved to the evening.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Here's hoping the second the Sam event is done, the Cathy Andy event being short will jump it to 100%.

When did this Cathy Andy event even pop up in discussion? I feel like it was till recently that it became a thing, before all I remember was

Nat
Dylan/Ellie
The concert

Being confirmed for this update.

I don't remember any discussion of an event with them until the last update was released. Up until that moment all of us expected Sam's concert to be the main event.

 

[bayrischman]

Unfortunately, we have not moved for several days. The development process has slowed down significantly.
I would like everything to be fine for him and the work would go faster.
But nothing depends on us.
He may have problems of both a personal and creative nature. Perhaps something is not working out. I don't know what to think, but it's too slow.
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it,s getting slower and slower . is he already on vacation again or is he lying in a pup across. it will be january . someone has said he will have the 15 percent of the next event ready in 1 week.

 

[Chicha]

Unfortunately, we have not moved for several days. The development process has slowed down significantly.
I would like everything to be fine for him and the work would go faster.
But nothing depends on us.
He may have problems of both a personal and creative nature. Perhaps something is not working out. I don't know what to think, but it's too slow.
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This is why I’m not a patron, if he released shorter updates every 2 months (as patron supporters wanted when he made a poll some time ago), even if content was shorter, I’d support him, but he doesn’t listen to his fans, and honestly, I don’t feel any consistency on how the progress evolves (sometimes it increases quick, sometimes it’s stuck for a whole week).

 

[Solcom]

Is a very good game, i love it.

But it takes long time for updates.
Making numbers

If i decide support L&P
With 13 bucks
In 6 months
I will only received a stupid update for 78 dollars. An in one year only 2 updates for 156.

NO GOOD BUSINESS.

 

[mikie]

I will only received a stupid update for 78 dollars. An in one year only 2 updates for 156.

NO GOOD BUSINESS.

only for you, its bad
but for the other site, its pretty damn good

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

He's on vacation until the 25 or smt like that.

 

[palmtrees89]

He's on vacation until the 25 or smt like that.

He's living the life, going on vacation every 2-3 months and the customers are paying for it while barely getting anything in return. Almost like government welfare, just better. Must be nice!

It's also kinda funny, because not long ago he said that he'd not go anywhere (after his last disappearance ~6-8 weeks ago) to be able to focus 100% on the game's development. L&P wouldn't lie to us, now would he?!

 

[GUHGUY]

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I believe it's covered under the Bonus Storyline, which was moved to the evening.

with the way the original plan was laid out for the bonus scene to be before the Sam event in the evening, I’m wondering if the rumor that the real Sam event will take place after the Cathy event is true.

I’m not willing to die on this hill, but it’s fun to consider. Maybe Liam does call Sophia in the middle of the show and she has to reluctantly leave the concert early to go see what her husband wants. Depending on the events that happen at the Cathy event, Sophia can be in a certain mood, possibly upset with Liam, so when Sam returns home, Sophia spends time with him to make up for leaving the concert early. It could help give them alone time for a more interesting scene.

L&P made a big point of keeping the Sam part 2 event secret, maybe that’s why. Regardless of what happens I’m looking forward to the scene. Be it all at the bar, or Sam giving Sophia a ride home, or the rumor of Cathy event taking place between.

What do y’all think?

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

with the way the original plan was laid out for the bonus scene to be before the Sam event in the evening, I’m wondering if the rumor that the real Sam event will take place after the Cathy event is true.

I’m not willing to die on this hill, but it’s fun to consider. Maybe Liam does call Sophia in the middle of the show and she has to reluctantly leave the concert early to go see what her husband wants. Depending on the events that happen at the Cathy event, Sophia can be in a certain mood, possibly upset with Liam, so when Sam returns home, Sophia spends time with him to make up for leaving the concert early. It could help give them alone time for a more interesting scene.

L&P made a big point of keeping the Sam part 2 event secret, maybe that’s why. Regardless of what happens I’m looking forward to the scene. Be it all at the bar, or Sam giving Sophia a ride home, or the rumor of Cathy event taking place between.

What do y’all think?

I think it's a fair theory. The fact that the concert isn't the focus suggests that something happens to interrupt the event. What that means and how it'll playout is up to anyone's guess, but Sam and Sophia connecting later is a possibility.

I stand by the fact that the treehouse will not be involved.

 

[Mennnnnn234]

Is a very good game, i love it.

But it takes long time for updates.
Making numbers

If i decide support L&P
With 13 bucks
In 6 months
I will only received a stupid update for 78 dollars. An in one year only 2 updates for 156.

NO GOOD BUSINESS.

Exactly stupid people blindly donating money

 

[armion82]

I have said December from the beginning of this update. I believe it is his desire to provide a present to all. The last estimate had the end of November which would set the cycle of release into the holiday season. I see no reason to change my view. It would also allow him, on a personal level, to relax over the holidays vice deal with the consternation a later release would unleash.

This is based on zero actual facts btw. Just pulled from a nether region.

December will mean that day 12 will take almost 14 full months to be made.
Not good.And to think we were not happy with 5,7 and 9 months for days 9,10 and 11.

 

[BRTT]

this game is very slow i expect update v0.150 to improve

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

this game is very slow i expect update v0.150 to improve

hopeless

 

[ancienregimele]

I believe the answer is simple and he may have stumbled upon it not starting to follow this path initially.

Tell me what you think of this: 1) It is clear at every update there is a surge in patrons that then tapers off as the delay and reality of the delays real impact take hold. 2) The discovery was that he may have a few core supporters that are patrons. However, what he observed was, as each new update pops, he creates a whole new slew of supporters enamored of the story that is available to them and appears to be (from their uninitiated observation) moving forward rapidly. 3) This surge carries him well into the next update cycle and as some drop off others pop in. 4) The pressure to produce is gone since the dependency is not on a core of patrons but on a constantly morphing group that is impressed by the work until they run into the update cycle. 5) In short, I think he is just playing the percentages of the numbers interested in the genre.

What do you think?

This sounds plausible & if it's indeed the case he may have achieved something unusual, (though not unique), in the world of 3d gaming. At times on this thread I've suggested that the signs of possible abandonment were visible for fans to see. If he is working as you say, I could be wrong about this. Monthly fluctuations are well documented around the turn of the month but it would seem that in this case a "modus vivendi" has been reached, whereby income is satisfactory, even though far short of what it could be with more frequent updates & this balances with the style of working which the Dev finds suitable. He's 'surfing the waves of the fluctuating patrons,' to use an analogy suitable for a Californian type of place like San Alejo.

Doubtless the quality renders, interesting characters & intriguing stories are good enough to not only keep us here, on this thread, speculating & debating endlessly but also attract new batches of fans in sufficient numbers that the need to change is not perceived. AWAM's pace (& lack of extra-marital sex) has become well-known on other game threads but this is not deterring enough paying fans from making their contributions. It will be interesting to see how long this business model will last. So far it's working just fine......for the Dev, which is why I said in an earlier post that I almost have to admire him.