That's exactly how I wanted it to be understood.
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it's good that you came to this conclusion, sometimes it takes time to assimilate the facts and the situation. I agree and the evolution is to very bad for Sophia.
For a mature woman like Sophia all this evolution should be recognized after the second task.
And then, I don't think it's a case of absolute naivety, there remains an explanation, not yet openly acknowledged, that Sophia is discovering a very strong sexual side that she can no longer control.
I'm curious what you would say when the update comes in December...
And just for the record, I'm not happy with a December release (not with November also), but all this exaggeration about February is a part of a mania (but mostly) depression here on the forum... Most of the participants here predicted a December/November (October if we're lucky) update back when L&P just started to work on it, and we all predicted a slow down in the creation of Sam's concert event. And now when Talcum's chart shows an early December release, people are depressed... Now that he finished with the demanding part, it's pretty realistic to predict a slight acceleration in pace.
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It’s like Aidens tasks excite her and he can bring her inner slut out of her shell. that she tried to bury deep when she got married
I also thought about the Dylan solution as the ultimate ninja and discarded this solution. It wouldn't work. Aiden would always find a way to harass Sophia further.
Morello, on the other hand, would be like a stroke of fate, with him the threat would be enough. Because if Aiden resisted he would insult the mafia boss himself, Aiden would not have shown him any respect and so it would no longer be about Sophia. Dylan has no chance here as a problem solver.
The question is whether Morello is still available as an option after the 12 tasks. Would Morello then still see Sophia as the sexy woman with class who deserves his respect or just as a slut?
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I still believe that Dylan ninja's skills(cough cough) will be used for something else, maybe Logan perhaps.
So I do agree with hzjujk
Do you suggest sex as a drug? But that would also mean that Sophia not only takes everything she can get with the Aiden tasks. Uncontrollable means when she comes back from Aiden she fucks Sam, then Dylan and then the postman and in the evening she lies down with her daughter. And the next day she is starving for Aiden's next task.
I understand what you are trying to say. I also think she should have recognized this after the second task. But this is where the "realism" of the story ends and, in my opinion, it will not be restored by explaining Sophia's behavior as a lifelong suppressed sex addiction.
What I wanted to point out with my first post, however, that there will be no gentle ending / solution for the blackmail story Sophia / Aiden. Unless they fall in love and get married.
Do you remember when Dylan was introduced to the Seal? His enthusiasm for learning how to kill with the edge of his hand. And how the instructor reacted to it. The scene in the park with the homeless was the continuation of that.
I think Dylan will get another chance to fight. Maybe Logan too. He maybe he'll win, and really have learned something, if he avoids the fight.
And still conquer the heart of the lovely maiden.
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I just thought that Dylan fighting Aiden was a bit too obvious but it could happen I guess.
The thing is though if Dylan does beat up Aiden then Aiden could always come back a 2nd/3rd or even a fourth time to get revenge where as Morello would stop Aiden dead in his tracks.
Agree with this last part except marriage.
As for the other part, the 12 tasks will evolve from doing them as an obligation to doing them as a pleasure. It's mandatory, I think, because it's the only reason to continue with Aiden when the possibilities of stopping appear. Her inner thoughts I think will be like: it's not so bad after all.
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I forget who it was who said that if we get all the way to Task 12, then Sophia's fall into corruption will be complete and irreversible. Personally I think if we get up to Task 8 or 9, then Sophia will be pretty far gone.
I think KillJoys & Alley_Cat have spoken before about the various ways that Sophia can get out of Aiden's tasks - an easy way and a harder way if I remember correctly. If we, as players, don't choose any of those outs, then we can't be surprised if Sophia's path becomes ever darker, assume we get that far in the story.
L&P said it will always be blackmail. But the possibility that Sophia Aiden will become a sexy little bitch can on the one hand mean that there will be no end after the 12 tasks. No way out for Sophia. What will come back to the beginning of the discussion.
On the other hand, I think if Sophia really gives in to the joy of accepting Aiden as the lightbringer, there would be the possibility that he would throw her away like a used towel afterwards. He wouldn't be interested anymore. Also an elegant way to get rid of Aiden from a narrative point of view.
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Morello could be an option, but if you choose not to follow Sophia/Ellie's path, you get the Casino option that allows Sophia to go home and wait or tell him to leave. On the other hand, if you choose to have Sophia ask him to leave, you close the Morello storyline. So how would that work if you go down that path?
Yes, I can remember that the discussions have existed before and will take place again. What I wanted to make clear, however, is that there is no solution for Sophia that she can bring about herself or that can be worked out by friends or relatives. After the 12 task, the solution must lie in the complete annihilation (not necessarily physically) of one of the two protagonists.
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I would have preferred a fight between Dylan and Aiden, as he was the catalyst that started the ninja training. The fight with the drunk hobo was just bad IMO. Now it would take a more potent force to stop Aiden at the end, but I think a battle between Dylan and Aiden would have been better served than the hobo in the park. It would be sort of like Karate Kid 2.
I think we're talking at cross purposes. I just wanted to use the example to make it clear why Morello would be an option and Dylan would not.
I know - no casino, no Morello - no solution for Sophia / Aiden.
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If the "Comfortable solution"Day 20 playable Day 13 is the easy way out then I wonder if the solution on Day 25 Playable Day 18 will be the "Uncomfortable Solution"?
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I wonder what a simple solution should be? Why would Aiden let Sophia go so easily after the - for Aiden so successful - 3rd task? Why would he agree that Sophia can just "walk away"?
Because it won't be that easy after all. She will have to deliver something, one last time, ... then she can go. And that's where we come in. Will she do what Aiden asks her to do... will she say to herself "yes, I'd rather do that than keep doing the tasks" or will she say to herself "no, I'm definitely not doing that". After all, the tasks aren't that bad, I'll keep doing them."
We'll decide if she continues down the dark path and becomes Aiden's bitch. The thought of her building a relationship with Aiden sounds good to me. Anyway, Dylan won't play a role at some point. He's no longer the reason for the tasks.
Maybe at some point, it's a game of the two to test the boundaries? In any case, she can't act like Aiden's bitch in the morning and then go back to business as usual as if nothing happened. There must be some change in Sophia during the course of the tasks.
Because it won't be that easy after all. She will have to deliver something, one last time, ... then she can go. And that's where we come in. Will she do what Aiden asks her to do... will she say to herself "yes, I'd rather do that than keep doing the tasks" or will she say to herself "no, I'm definitely not doing that". After all, the tasks aren't that bad, I'll keep doing them."
We'll decide if she continues down the dark path and becomes Aiden's bitch. The thought of her building a relationship with Aiden sounds good to me. Anyway, Dylan won't play a role at some point. He's no longer the reason for the tasks.
Maybe at some point, it's a game of the two to test the boundaries? In any case, she can't act like Aiden's bitch in the morning and then go back to business as usual as if nothing happened. There must be some change in Sophia during the course of the tasks.
That was only hinted at in Sophia's internal monologue but I don't think it was ever a Dev plan, rather just a way someone in that situation might think. What is due to occur 'soon' is the "easy" way to end the tasks. This could involve Don Morello, or perhaps his involvement will be part of the later "hard" way to end them, which might include further obligations to his organisation.
I'm looking forward to all the genuine blackmail haters bailing out with the easy option. This should lead to greater happiness all round. I always wanted Dylan in my playthrough but as a normal teenage son, (problematic enough, as those with sons at such a stage now or in the past could testify), rather than a sexually "confused" PITA, [nicest term I could think of]. When I was able to pair him up with Emma I felt like shaking L&P's hand, (a rare thing) & I hope that the Aiden detractors will feel likewise, sometime in the first half of next year. Those who follow the route will then be free to see what number they reach in the fullness of time.
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