VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

I wonder what a simple solution should be? Why would Aiden let Sophia go so easily after the - for Aiden so successful - 3rd task? Why would he agree that Sophia can just "walk away"?
Because it won't be that easy after all. She will have to deliver something, one last time, ... then she can go. And that's where we come in. Will she do what Aiden asks her to do... will she say to herself "yes, I'd rather do that than keep doing the tasks" or will she say to herself "no, I'm definitely not doing that". After all, the tasks aren't that bad, I'll keep doing them."
We'll decide if she continues down the dark path and becomes Aiden's bitch. The thought of her building a relationship with Aiden sounds good to me. Anyway, Dylan won't play a role at some point. He's no longer the reason for the tasks.
Maybe at some point, it's a game of the two to test the boundaries? In any case, she can't act like Aiden's bitch in the morning and then go back to business as usual as if nothing happened. There must be some change in Sophia during the course of the tasks.

You know what L&P is like with clues but I do think that Morello will play a part in solving the Aiden problem at what cost( if any) this may entail I have no idea.
If Morello does play a part then Aiden will have no choice but to let Sophia walk away.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Uncontrollable means when she comes back from Aiden she fucks Sam, then Dylan and then the postman and in the evening she lies down with her daughter. And the next day she is starving for Aiden's next task.
I understand what you are trying to say. I also think she should have recognized this after the second task. But this is where the "realism" of the story ends and, in my opinion, it will not be restored by explaining Sophia's behavior as a lifelong suppressed sex addiction.

Sue me but at that point screw the realism and give me give me.

Not saying I want Sophia to fuck one after the other (give some breathing room) but I hope by the end there are a lot of options throughout the multiple routes.

 

[xxxorro]

If the "Comfortable solution"Day 20 playable Day 13 is the easy way out then I wonder if the solution on Day 25 Playable Day 18 will be the "Uncomfortable Solution"?

It's always difficult to interpret L&P messages, he seemed to imply that until then (the solutionS, the comfortable one, ...?) the tasks won't be extreme. The second one is 5 PDs away, Dylan can become full ninja by then if that is the solution at current pace of the events But jokes aside it's hard to image which could be the 2nd solution (and as for the 1st it depends on previous actions, it could be something that we still have to see...)

What is interesting is that the 2nd solution seems to happen the same day the solution for Bennett is proposed, at least according to this old post (Jan 2020):

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If Sophia stayed until the end of the dinner then she's got 2 weeks to decide. Even though it's out of the question for her at the moment. The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett she'll presumably get on playable day 18.

They are probably unrelated, we know that probably for Bennett the solution could come from what Mrs Torres said, but still it is peculiar to have everything happening the same day.

Unless... he wants to kill two... pigeons with one stone!

 

[BRTT]

Sophia has to release everything

 

[Old Dog]

It's always difficult to interpret L&P messages, he seemed to imply that until then (the solutionS, the comfortable one, ...?) the tasks won't be extreme. The second one is 5 PDs away, Dylan can become full ninja by then if that is the solution at current pace of the events But jokes aside it's hard to image which could be the 2nd solution (and as for the 1st it depends on previous actions, it could be something that we still have to see...)



What is interesting is that the 2nd solution seems to happen the same day the solution for Bennett is proposed, at least according to this old post (Jan 2020):

They are probably unrelated, we know that probably for Bennett the solution could come from what Mrs Torres said, but still it is peculiar to have everything happening the same day.

Unless... he wants to kill two... pigeons with one stone!

There are a number of ways to solve the Bennett problem(I think it was 3) but as far as I know Mrs Torres only plays a minor part, but who knows how much the script has changed.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

You know what L&P is like with clues but I do think that Morello will play a part in solving the Aiden problem at what cost( if any) this may entail I have no idea.
If Morello does play a part then Aiden will have no choice but to let Sophia walk away.

But like I said in my post to hzjujk, What if you choose to lock out the casino storyline, then how does he play a part in it?

 

[Old Dog]

But like I said in my post to hzjujk, What if you choose to lock out the casino storyline, then how does he play a part in it?

That my friend I don't know.
Now back to my Fan Art

 

[Bishop Robert]

So I'm looking at my save for Alyssa + 2nd Side job I got here (from KillJoys I believe), is it normal for Dylan points to be at 20 by the end?

For my main save (Ellie + 1st side job) Dylans points were around 50.

 

[Old Dog]

So I'm looking at my save for Alyssa + 2nd Side job I got here (from KillJoys I believe), is it normal for Dylan points to be at 20 by the end?

For my main save (Ellie + 1st side job) Dylans points were around 50.

L&P messed up the points system so you will have to use the cheat to increase them

 

[BRTT]

 

[Talcum Powder]

The yoga scene with 4 girls showing some ass is better,at least for me.

The look on Sophia's face and the look Alyssa gives her as she cranks up the juice? That was legit next level sexual energy and very nearly perfect between the two (or was it three - I'd swear Antonio was supporting a sadistic grin) of them.

 

[keefer43]

It's always difficult to interpret L&P messages, he seemed to imply that until then (the solutionS, the comfortable one, ...?) the tasks won't be extreme. The second one is 5 PDs away, Dylan can become full ninja by then if that is the solution at current pace of the events But jokes aside it's hard to image which could be the 2nd solution (and as for the 1st it depends on previous actions, it could be something that we still have to see...)



What is interesting is that the 2nd solution seems to happen the same day the solution for Bennett is proposed, at least according to this old post (Jan 2020):

They are probably unrelated, we know that probably for Bennett the solution could come from what Mrs Torres said, but still it is peculiar to have everything happening the same day.

Unless... he wants to kill two... pigeons with one stone!

Not my babies!! Oh my poor pigeons!!

 

[I_Love_Moms]

This statement sounds way too cold to me. "L&P has no role to play".... Firstly doesn't matter if he has patented this or not any true artist would never steal the foundation entirely and build his story. The artist in this case is not playing on his talent but on the popularity of the game.

Secondly just being able to make good renders is not enough. Telling a story, writing a scene, building the anticipation, writing actual proper dialogues and creating a flow, proper direction of the scenes. It's no easy feat.

You see how everyone who can draw can't write a good comic book or manga.

A real artist wouldn't actually pick this game to make it further without L&P's consent ( assuming a scenario where he has abandoned the game ). Only one who wants to profit off of the popularity will.

And maybe he has patented the game ( not sure at all on this ). I say this because he did give the threat to westpod to take the matter to court. Though in the end it was more of a misunderstanding and Westpod had no bad intentions.

I guess I used the wrong language here, so let me put it in another way. After the game gets abandoned (I hope it doesn't but I'm certain it will), could someone take it over from where L&P left? So many great games have been abandoned, and I kind of feel bad as they had potential. So, if L&P decides to abandon this game, is it possible for some guys to continue it?

 

[Bishop Robert]

I guess I used the wrong language here, so let me put it in another way. After the game gets abandoned (I hope it doesn't but I'm certain it will), could someone take it over from where L&P left? So many great games have been abandoned, and I kind of feel bad as they had potential. So, if L&P decides to abandon this game, is it possible for some guys to continue it?

Happened with Big Brother so ya never know.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

That was only hinted at in Sophia's internal monologue but I don't think it was ever a Dev plan, rather just a way someone in that situation might think. What is due to occur 'soon' is the "easy" way to end the tasks. This could involve Don Morello, or perhaps his involvement will be part of the later "hard" way to end them, which might include further obligations to his organisation.

I'm looking forward to all the genuine blackmail haters bailing out with the easy option. This should lead to greater happiness all round. I always wanted Dylan in my playthrough but as a normal teenage son, (problematic enough, as those with sons at such a stage now or in the past could testify), rather than a sexually "confused" PITA, [nicest term I could think of]. When I was able to pair him up with Emma I felt like shaking L&P's hand, (a rare thing) & I hope that the Aiden detractors will feel likewise, sometime in the first half of next year. Those who follow the route will then be free to see what number they reach in the fullness of time.

I have concerns about those that choose to end the Aiden story. Clearly this is a storyline that L&P cares about and puts a lot of time into. If you decide to end Sophia's involvement (or if you never followed the story to begin with) then it's going to further diffuse the player base. If L&P continues to dedicate the same amount of time to the Aiden events, a lot of people are going to get only a fraction of the content in those updates (assuming you only play one path). It worries me that it's going to further complicate the development process. Either L&P just says "fuck it" and continues to do what he's currently doing, or he adjusts the script to include alternative concurrent events during Aiden's events. Either way, it sounds like another excuse for his development times to grow.

 

[Bishop Robert]

So what was the personal life of L&P? I ask in the non nosy way.

Isn't he a teacher/prof. with a child?

 

[mimhof007]

I have concerns about those that choose to end the Aiden story. Clearly this is a storyline that L&P cares about and puts a lot of time into. If you decide to end Sophia's involvement (or if you never followed the story to begin with) then it's going to further diffuse the player base. If L&P continues to dedicate the same amount of time to the Aiden events, a lot of people are going to get only a fraction of the content in those updates (assuming you only play one path). It worries me that it's going to further complicate the development process. Either L&P just says "fuck it" and continues to do what he's currently doing, or he adjusts the script to include alternative concurrent events during Aiden's events. Either way, it sounds like another excuse for his development times to grow.

Well, I think Developer wants to expand on Aiden and the Apostles of which I am 100% behind him in those endeavors. I support him with more than maximum dollars to do so.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Well, I think Developer wants to expand on Aiden and the Apostles of which I am 100% behind him in those endeavors. I support him with more than maximum dollars to do so.

Mimhof007, This was the wrong forum to make that comment.

 

[palmtrees89]

So what was the personal life of L&P? I ask in the non nosy way.

Isn't he a teacher/prof. with a child?

According to patreon, L&P used to be a student with part-time job before reaching the goals listed on his patreon page.

Goal 3 of 4 - "I'll quit my side job so I can spend even more time developing the game!
Furthermore, I'll try to hire someone to help me out with the project!"

Goal 4 of 4 - "AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this high goal is really achieved someday:
I cancel all my college courses and devote all my time to my passion of (adult) game development!
I'll give my hardware a massive "face-lift", primarily to render faster and switch from 720p to 1080p quality!"

The final goal was reached in early spring this year I believe, so he's supposedly putting even more time into the development of the game. The results are questionable to say the least. lol

 

[Sabertooth__]

I guess I used the wrong language here, so let me put it in another way. After the game gets abandoned (I hope it doesn't but I'm certain it will), could someone take it over from where L&P left? So many great games have been abandoned, and I kind of feel bad as they had potential. So, if L&P decides to abandon this game, is it possible for some guys to continue it?

If one of the fan artists are allowed by L&P to take up they might but most of the fan artists only do this in free time, so maybe 2-3 hrs a day at average.

Making a game so big is not easy while delivering the same quality. A lot of the routes will have to be prematurely ended. Now if those were ones which secretly had big fanbases, the game loses its appeal.

Also, whoever starts making the game will also have to deal with all the bullshit people speak as there is no way a solo artist can make this game just as good as it is in considerably less time.

Writing your own story is different and continuing someone else's story is totally different. The new artist will have to take a long haitus firstly to write a story, then dialogues, planning a numerous scenarios with characters.

The only way this project can ever be completed by anyone other than L&P, in a reasonable time is if a proper team starts working on it together. And that's just being too wishful