VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I have a great story in mind. Only if I had the technical skills to turn it into a VN

me too

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I'm to the point where I think we should almost disregard anything he said more than two years ago. I say "almost" because there's still some value in his previous statements but, as you said, a lot has changed in the last two years. But statements like "the whole story is written" and even hints about what will happen on Playable Day 19 should be taken with a grain of salt. He said these things when the game and its development cycle were much different. When he suggested a 3 to 4 years of development, he was probably thinking he'd get to sex in 18 to 24 months. Obviously that's been blown all to hell. It would not shock me if he has thrown out most of what he had planned originally. IF he does intend on finishing this game, and he's not just stringing us along until he abandons it, then it would make sense to rearrange some of his previous ideas. Like, I'm not sure this game can survive if the first cheating scene is still five or more years away. Yes, right now the number of Patrons is steadily increasing, but the pressure for some payoff is going to increase as well. The game's success may require that the story's pace increase so that sex can happen within the next couple of years.

Or ViperDonkey is right and this is all a scam.

in one of his answers in his profile here, some time ago he still said that the game would have been abandoned.
he may not have changed his mind

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

That was only hinted at in Sophia's internal monologue but I don't think it was ever a Dev plan, rather just a way someone in that situation might think. What is due to occur 'soon' is the "easy" way to end the tasks. This could involve Don Morello, or perhaps his involvement will be part of the later "hard" way to end them, which might include further obligations to his organisation.

I'm looking forward to all the genuine blackmail haters bailing out with the easy option. This should lead to greater happiness all round. I always wanted Dylan in my playthrough but as a normal teenage son, (problematic enough, as those with sons at such a stage now or in the past could testify), rather than a sexually "confused" PITA, [nicest term I could think of]. When I was able to pair him up with Emma I felt like shaking L&P's hand, (a rare thing) & I hope that the Aiden detractors will feel likewise, sometime in the first half of next year. Those who follow the route will then be free to see what number they reach in the fullness of time.

I don't think the first solution is really going to be that comfortable considering what he said in his text about both solutions. It's the GTA part of it. He may write Sophia story for an HJ or BJ (speculation) to end the tasks at hand. He has the upper hand right now taking into consideration his background and what Sophia knows about him, but who knows. Maybe L&P will give her the option just to pay him off as part of the first solution.

 

[ancienregimele]

If you include me in this, I will have to disappoint you. Morally I have sunk far too low to give up the Aiden blackmail route now. I just have an almost satanic joy in pointing out the consequences of childish fantasies in this forum about blackmail. And as some here do NOT react to my posts shows me I have success with it.

No, I had you down as borderline...could have gone either way. I hope that once the nay-sayers have gone that the tasks can get more difficult, for Sophia that is, overtly sexual, not too enjoyable etc. Maybe Aiden finds even better grounds for blackmail. If they're outside of school, so much the better. I hope he collaborates with adults like Xavier to dream them up. Then they couldn't be childish. You'll be right there!

Will we see many more? I doubt it but who knows?

 

[raavan1]

Why....why aiden giving 12 tasks to sophia..?
If he wants to fuck her then fuck her..but why

 

[ancienregimele]

Why....why aiden giving 12 tasks to sophia..?
If he wants to fuck her then fuck her..but why

Have you read this story? Nobody, (but nobody) just fucks who they want, whenever they want, because that's simple, basic, boring, tedious, badly written pornographic dross, which this story isn't.

 

[ancienregimele]

I don't think the first solution is really going to be that comfortable considering what he said in his text about both solutions. It's the GTA part of it. He may tell Sophia for an HJ or BJ (speculation) to end the tasks at hand. He has the upper hand right now taking into consideration his background and what Sophia knows about him, but who knows. Maybe L&P will give her the option just to pay him off as part of the first solution.

You could be right except for the paying off bit because Aiden is already a spoilt rich kid.

 

[nexer]

Why should Aiden accept such a lazy compromise for him? Why end the deal prematurely with sex that he is convinced he will get anyway? And what should prevent him from simply continuing with the tasks afterwards? Please explain that.

It's a game, but as I said before, Aiden has nothing to lose and if Sophia refuses there are 2 possibilities: boarding school and bullying.
As already commented, for Aiden the only danger is the police and Sophia hasn't done anything so far and it's already too late for her 4th task.
It's also a matter of prestige but the 3rd task proves that it's also personal. The first 2 took place at school with a gang member as a witness, the third one didn't, it was only for Aiden. The interest on Aiden's part is clear, beyond control and humiliation comes sex as the purpose of blackmail.
And Aiden isn't the shy type, him with a sex partner in a private space, he wants an audience but he will be the first.

And one more detail, Aiden has noticed that his tasks turn her on and he knows that with the right adjustment of tasks he will get everything he wants: sex, control, domination.
All that being said I don't think a bj, hj will be able to stop the blackmail

 

[nexer]

Sophie's upset is great when she discovers that Aiden has tricked her and there is a possibility that during the 4th task she may record him. We have no explicit demands from Aiden and he will have to explain to her what to do.
The discussion I think will take place before school starts and outside of class at which point Sophia could extend the conversation and introduce the question: what if I don't want to?

 

[hzjujk]

Why are you so combative?

In this case I wasn't, combative! I said PLEASE. I am not very familiar with English. I use Goggle to check my translations before I post them. Linguistic subtleties, such as emotions or moods, are neglected.

 

[VanDarkBalls]

Sophie's upset is great when she discovers that Aiden has tricked her and there is a possibility that during the 4th task she may record him. We have no explicit demands from Aiden and he will have to explain to her what to do.
The discussion I think will take place before school starts and outside of class at which point Sophia could extend the conversation and introduce the question: what if I don't want to?

Will the task be performed in the classroom ?

 

[nexer]

Will the task be performed in the classroom ?

yeah, at school at least, I think

And I don't think Sophia will enter the classroom without knowing the 4th task.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I also thought about the Dylan solution as the ultimate ninja and discarded this solution. It wouldn't work. Aiden would always find a way to harass Sophia further.
Morello, on the other hand, would be like a stroke of fate, with him the threat would be enough. Because if Aiden resisted he would insult the mafia boss himself, Aiden would not have shown him any respect and so it would no longer be about Sophia. Dylan has no chance here as a problem solver.
The question is whether Morello is still available as an option after the 12 tasks. Would Morello then still see Sophia as the sexy woman with class who deserves his respect or just as a slut?

Morello has to be an early solution. I agree too late and he is no longer enamored. Dylan, all depends on the beat down. If he waxes Aiden hard then he becomes a mini enforcer. I know how I reacted as a teenager to another adult insulting my mom. She called me off before it got ugly. That ended that. I can easily see Dylan getting that way as he is currently moving into the possessive.

 

[VanDarkBalls]

yeah, at school at least, I think

And I don't think Sophia will enter the classroom without knowing the 4th task.

Zac and Andre will be happy

 

[Bane71]

Zac and Andre will be happy

I think all the boys in the class and even many girls will be happy!

 

[Mennnnnn234]

Why....why aiden giving 12 tasks to sophia..?
If he wants to fuck her then fuck her..but why

L/P logic realistic scenario

 

[Sabertooth__]

Since Aiden is the hot topic of the thread, I would like to speak my mind too since I am also one of the few who supports the blackmail route.

Now many believe that sophia would break or submit to Aiden, or consider him her master at the end of twelve tasks, the thought seems very unrealistic too me.

One reason being L&P's way of writing and the kind of guy he comes off as I don't think he is hardcore into the master slave dynamics.

The bigger reason being that this is just 12 tasks over the course of 2 weeks. We really need porn logic here or it won't make sense. As someone who has seen 100+ mindbreak stories not once have I encountered something so mild leading to a mind break and even still I don't consider the mind break believable in them even after everything, so if this leads to sophia submitting it would be ridiculous.

Also a point was being made that Morello might loose interest in sophia. I don't even see that plausible over the course of this game. We are on playable day 12 and she did something to make Morello happy. Aiden's storyline should finish by playable Day 25 if there aren't any uncertain breaks. On day 13 she meets morello again. So in overall 12 days, we assume he'll loose all interest in sophia. Morello sees hot women everyday, he can have any hot woman he wants, if he still approached Sophia HIMSELF it must be so because she really piqued his interest.

Personally, i am not in favour of Aiden having sex with Sophia. He treats her like she is beneath him and tries to make her feel like that and in the end decides that he should fuck the one he sees beneath him. I find this situation not convincing. He has a girlfriend for that. Also since sex is consensual, in such a situation it can only work if Sophia is broken but her breaking will itself be ludicrous writing.

I do agree with the thought that the most likely end for Aiden will be one of them moving away from the school.

I see Aiden as someone who wants to only degrade Sophia and will constantly come up with ways to humiliate her. He could make her give blowjobs or Maybe have sex with strangers for the last one or two tasks but him having sex with her doesn't suit right with me.

Also Sophia will enjoy the tasks as she goes further and further but I don't believe it will ever reach the point where she is begging for more tasks. I did ask L&P if sophia will actively want to do the tasks and he said no, though it was more in context for the upcoming tasks and from his words I believe he himself hasn't decided the end for Aiden storyline. So it can actually be anything.

I'd rather she enjoy it and once the tasks ends and she sees how much she has enjoyed it, she herself could subject herself to such situations without Aiden having to tell her or even him being in the picture.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

You could be right except for the paying off bit because Aiden is already a spoilt rich kid.

I wouldn't say that for sure. Maybe she will pay him off because she can't go through the assignment anymore as she feels disgusted with the art scene and getting touched. Before the reader made the choice for Sophia, sending Dylan to boarding school or play along with the assignments, She was told to pay 200 bucks per head every day. Sophia and Aiden may come up with a lump sum that will end it all. Speculation, of course.

Spoiler: Blackmail - $200

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[mulerider]

Morello has to be an early solution. I agree too late and he is no longer enamored. Dylan, all depends on the beat down. If he waxes Aiden hard then he becomes a mini enforcer. I know how I reacted as a teenager to another adult insulting my mom. She called me off before it got ugly. That ended that. I can easily see Dylan getting that way as he is currently moving into the possessive.

Don't see how Morello can be the solution when there are many of us that don't play that unrealistic crap route, if he is not in it, he surely can't help

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I agree with you.
Regarding L&P, I want to say that it is quite difficult to write scenes and dialogues of heroes so that it is interesting and at the same time not banal, given the need to combine a lot of facts and plot arcs.
Unfortunately, as soon as someone expresses an understanding of the complexity of the work performed by L&P, some people call such a person an L&P agent. This is not funny, it's sad because none of the ardent critics of L&P, most likely, does not work 11 hours a day himself.
If a person has to work so much, then he understands perfectly well how hard it is, not to mention the creative process, but it means creating interesting storylines and writing intriguing, exciting dialogues.
And if the pace of work slows down, then I understand that the person is tired or probably something is not working out, the process is not going smoothly. While we are waiting for this, we perceive it extremely critically, but I believe it upsets the developer no less than us.

In any case, I only hope that it will not stop working, as it has already happened with other projects, everything else is secondary and less important.

If you believe L&P works 11h a day and this is his output, then go for it, don't ask others to believe that nonsense.
L&P has been caught in numerous lies.

The last lie was that (in january) he was going to start rendering much faster because he bought three 3090s, 9 months later we find out he's only using one of those and trying to connect the second one now.

Anyone believing this guy works 11 hour a day and has the best intentions to finish this game is going in for some awakening a few months now.