VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[palmtrees89]

Considering how often we hear about someone working with L&P but then dropping out or losing interest, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case (different writers for different updates).

True. L&P reminds me of a less talented Klaus Kinski in a way. I doubt he'll ever find someone who'd truly enjoy working with him, be it a writer or an artist on the same level for shared scene/render creation. Especially not for a fraction of the money he earns with this project.

He'd need a full-time crew and share his income fair and square, and that's never going to happen. Hiring an artist on the same level for a couple scenes or renders here and there won't work either, because I doubt any REALLY talented artist would be willing to work on this basis for long. That's comparable to what he did with a writer back then, sending him snippets of text and expect results. The writer gave up, saying it was impossible to work with L&P.

Even if he were to manage all of the above, it would still fail after a short period of time, because I'd bet my nutsack on the fact that anyone working with him would at some point feel the urge to strangle him for the way he is.

 

[nexer]

Andy and Cathy want 1(one) night of sex with another partner before marriage. No mention that they've done it before or want to do it in the future. So far it's about one night and nothing more. So no swapping habit
No wild bachelorette party on the table yet, nor anything sexual before the wedding.

Confirmed that Liam seems more interested (this is where Sophia plays dirty, letting Liam decide, she who is a "bit" desperate) which makes me think that the lack of sex between them is also due to boredom

 

[nexer]

If I'm not mistaken, and I think I'm not, Liam is the most athletic and handsome of the mature male characters over 30. On the one hand it's normal, Sophia is a beautiful woman and the partner should fit the bill, but at 40 and working so many hours, Liam should have some love handles.
L&P portrayed Sophia as very innocent, didn't know about "MILF", Liam is the only man in the last 18 years and his performance is 6 minutes long.
My point is that Sophia is likely to perceive a 40 year old man as one whose peak performance is 6 minutes. The logic behind it would be: if my athletic, love-handle-less husband performs 6 minutes, a fatter one would perform less. It might be a shock to her if Andy fucked her for 30 minutes.
What I mean by that is it would explain the possible interest in younger ones (reminds her of the time when Liam was finishing and starting over )

 

[Alley_Cat]

If I'm not mistaken, and I think I'm not, Liam is the most athletic and handsome of the mature male characters over 30. On the one hand it's normal, Sophia is a beautiful woman and the partner should fit the bill, but at 40 and working so many hours, Liam should have some love handles.
L&P portrayed Sophia as very innocent, didn't know about "MILF", Liam is the only man in the last 18 years and his performance is 6 minutes long.
My point is that Sophia is likely to perceive a 40 year old man as one whose peak performance is 6 minutes. The logic behind it would be: if my athletic, love-handle-less husband performs 6 minutes, a fatter one would perform less. It might be a shock to her if Andy fucked her for 30 minutes.
What I mean by that is it would explain the possible interest in younger ones (reminds her of the time when Liam was finishing and starting over )

And your obvious bias is to limit Sophia's interest to the male characters. Physiologically it's proven, men can't compete with women stamina-wise. It's just a biological fact.

 

[xavierlub]

The French translation does not go to the end is this normal

 

[nexer]

And your obvious bias is to limit Sophia's interest to the male characters. Physiologically it's proven, men can't compete with women stamina-wise. It's just a biological fact.

Two variables need to be taken into account: duration and frequency. As the years go by, frequency decreases, but I don't know if L&P has actively participated in a gangbang, it's where you can compare live performances, but "duration" varies greatly from man to man.
As for women's "stamina", I agree with you, I commented on the "biological compensation" offered to women by mother nature.

 

[Old Dog]

I would of liked to have known more about the background of there younger years,there "soiree" together as it was touched upon but it was very vague in description.
They joked,touched and made eye contact but this was never discussed afterwards with the Parkers,did something already happen between them in there years ago,experimenting sexually with each other.
it would of been nice to have more background information of there earlier years.
Cathy flashing her boob at Liam was properly on purpose to gauge his reaction

 

[matt26]

Is the download shitty for anyone else? WIth my internet it would take 20-30 minutes to download 6.5 Gb, but is taking 8 hours...

 

[nexer]

IMO, the first intercourse should end with a cosmic orgasm A revelation.
I say that because the first intercourse should open the gate, make Sophia understand what she's missing. That would filter out the possible partners: eliminate the virgins.

 

[nexer]

Is the download shitty for anyone else? WIth my internet it would take 20-30 minutes to download 6.5 Gb, but is taking 8 hours...

use mega

 

[Old Dog]

IMO, the first intercourse should end with a cosmic orgasm A revelation.
I say that because the first intercourse should open the gate, make Sophia understand what she's missing. That would filter out the possible partners: eliminate the virgins.

It was already hinted at that Liam/Sophia had had great sex(ok it was a very long time ago)as this was hinted at after the opera night

 

[nexer]

It was already hinted at that Liam/Sophia had had great sex(ok it was a very long time ago)as this was hinted at after the opera night

I suspect Liam "reloads" more often but that 6 minutes remains

 

[Old Dog]

IMO, the first intercourse should end with a cosmic orgasm A revelation.
I say that because the first intercourse should open the gate, make Sophia understand what she's missing. That would filter out the possible partners: eliminate the virgins.

That could work both ways for Liam and Sophia.Either one of them could have great sex and maybe in Sophia's case it becomes like a drug as she is always chasing that high explosive orgasm that she got the first time when she had sex with somebody else besides her husband.A sex addict.

 

[Old Dog]

IMO, the first intercourse should end with a cosmic orgasm A revelation.
I say that because the first intercourse should open the gate, make Sophia understand what she's missing. That would filter out the possible partners: eliminate the virgins.

The way Sophia is going do you really think that there will be any virgins left in San Alejo by the end of the game?

 

[nexer]

The way Sophia is going do you really think that there will be any virgins left in San Alejo by the end of the game.

In the case of the first intercourse outside marriage should be removed from the list: the virgins, after ... there is no guarantee

 

[hzjujk]

If I'm not mistaken, and I think I'm not, Liam is the most athletic and handsome of the mature male characters over 30. On the one hand it's normal, Sophia is a beautiful woman and the partner should fit the bill, but at 40 and working so many hours, Liam should have some love handles.
L&P portrayed Sophia as very innocent, didn't know about "MILF", Liam is the only man in the last 18 years and his performance is 6 minutes long.
My point is that Sophia is likely to perceive a 40 year old man as one whose peak performance is 6 minutes. The logic behind it would be: if my athletic, love-handle-less husband performs 6 minutes, a fatter one would perform less. It might be a shock to her if Andy fucked her for 30 minutes.
What I mean by that is it would explain the possible interest in younger ones (reminds her of the time when Liam was finishing and starting over )

Yes, and that annoys me a lot. The man doesn't have to do anything to look good. He only goes fishing. Sophia and I, on the other hand, have to struggle with sport almost every day - the world is really unjust.

 

[Old Dog]

L&P portrayed Sophia as very innocent, didn't know about "MILF", Liam is the only man in the last 18 years and his performance is 6 minutes long.

L&P has portrayed Sophia as very innocent but the conversation during the Cathy/Andy event seems to indicate something different/the looking/touching/eye contact with each other,did something almost happen between Sophia/Andy and Liam/Cathy?
It is never brought up again but I found it very interesting

 

[nexer]

L&P has portrayed Sophia as very innocent but the conversation during the Cathy/Andy event seems to indicate something different/the looking/touching/eye contact with each other,did something almost happen between Sophia/Andy and Liam/Cathy?
It is never brought up again but I found it very interesting

OK, I'll reread the event, I want to see what Sophia says, because Liam sold his wife for Cathy

 

[hzjujk]

L&P has portrayed Sophia as very innocent but the conversation during the Cathy/Andy event seems to indicate something different/the looking/touching/eye contact with each other,did something almost happen between Sophia/Andy and Liam/Cathy?
It is never brought up again but I found it very interesting

It is an event that can be inserted three or four days earlier and that would have disrupted the flow of the game less. It suddenly shows a married couple that could have expanded their sexual horizons earlier through shared experiences. A proposal is made and everyone looks at Sophia who acts as if she did not know how the virgin came to have a child. Even the incident in the office with Liam apparently never took place - where Sophai says yes, they need to improve their sex life again and Sophia takes a very courageous first step there. And now she's the wallflower again, who first had sexual contact with Sam on the Dirty Route, and then has trouble thinking about the possibility at all. I can understand if L&P wants to avoid complicated chains of events, but it disrupts the upsurge of the story. Then we have to desperately interpret any meaning into the Cathy event here in the forum.

 

[Old Dog]

OK, I'll reread the event, I want to see what Sophia says, because Liam sold his wife for Cathy

It is only touched upon and never mentioned again