PietruccioTheHilander

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Building another beast with two 3090s means animation or a dev to help him. Only these two options make sense. Animation without someone to help means even longer delays in updates.
On the other hand he's waiting for answers from a few devs, so he hasn't found one, which reinforces the idea that he found a programmer for animation.
yes, his animations suck, but he shouldn't delay the development process for that, in the meantime I think he can continue developing the game and insert the animations when he has, if ever, ready.
here instead it seems that everything is slowing down because of this.
and in any case it was not a problem if he had been transparent and sincere from the beginning: guys I'm implementing the animations, have patience.
instead it seems that he wanted to keep everything hidden only to disguise the long wait.
My opinion
 

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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update and he'll keep us informed, providing answers once he reaches a certain point in the current update's development (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he had previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
I read it like this: He wants to publish the next update towards the end of January 2022. I didn't expect an earlier appointment anyway. If he announces this date then he will deliver around this time - unless aliens land on earth then it will be delayed by a week. He decided too quickly to announce a new feature for the game and is now not sure whether he can integrate it into this update. He asks for patience. It says nothing more - not even about the aliens.
 
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hzjujk

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I mean, what you say makes sense, but it's not what L&P said. He is working on it, and the results apparently can already be seen on this current update, according to him. There's not a single word of him saying that he's unsure about anything. I'm failing to see the logic behind his statements, and all the contradictions certainly don't help. It's a back and forth, and all within what - 24 hours?
I understand you, I also see the contradictions, but I wanted to calm the discussion down a bit with my words. Hence the strong opinion / speculation on the planned release date.
 
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palmtrees89

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I understand you, I also see the contradictions, but I wanted to calm the discussion down a bit with my words. Hence the strong opinion / speculation on the planned release date.
I appreciate it, and I'm not trying to cause a drama. I'm just genuinely confused. :LOL:
 
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L&P's Father-in-Law

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Haha, you obviously never worked in hospitality. First the unhappy customers leave, slowly, and you end up with an empty restaurant.
I'm telling you from my own experience in weddings, christenings and crazy weekends. There was nowhere else to put the dirty dishes.
Ask me, a professional, first or look for another comparison :WeSmart: :ROFLMAO:

We're talking about "captive customers" here, and a good example is what's happening with DAZ and the developers who use it. Many complain about video card problems, frequent crashes but ....
Thankfully not.
Regarding the comparison, I wasn't the one making it, Bane was. I was just trying to help out within that absurd comparison that he made, which you would know if you actually read the topic and not just look for things to throw shade.
 

nexer

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Thankfully not.
Regarding the comparison, I wasn't the one making it, Bane was. I was just trying to help out within that absurd comparison that he made, which you would know if you actually read the topic and not just look for things to throw shade.
My pleasure :ROFLMAO:. But still, you misread the situation :unsure::cool:
 
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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update and he'll keep us informed, providing answers once he reaches a certain point in the update's development (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he had previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
It's just him throwing sand in everyone's eyes.

"I thought of something very special"
"for some very special task"
"i reached out to other special devs"
"this special plan"
"upcoming update"
"believe me"
"just have a little bit of trust"
"you'll see this next update"
"upcoming update"
"I'll tell you after the update"


1st, I finally understand why he takes so long in the P&T part.
2nd, he puts more effort into trying to write eloquent posts insulting f95 members than telling his patrons what's up.
3rd, he's, for some reason, still undecided on when will the patrons be able to see this specialness.
And finally, who needs to ask people to believe in them/have trust/faith in them? People who know they lost that trust because of a history of not doing what they say they do. Very telling.
 

Talcum Powder

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It's just him throwing sand in everyone's eyes.

"I thought of something very special"
"for some very special task"
"i reached out to other special devs"
"this special plan"
"upcoming update"
"believe me"
"just have a little bit of trust"
"you'll see this next update"
"upcoming update"
"I'll tell you after the update"


1st, I finally understand why he takes so long in the P&T part.
2nd, he puts more effort into trying to write eloquent posts insulting f95 members than telling his patrons what's up.
3rd, he's, for some reason, still undecided on when will the patrons be able to see this specialness.
And finally, who needs to ask people to believe in them/have trust/faith in them? People who know they lost that trust because of a history of not doing what they say they do. Very telling.
It's like he's been watching youtube clips on effective corporate spin - how to promise the future and never deliver.
 

Talcum Powder

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Please, a little patience. ;) Maybe L&P will create 1000 renderings of Dylan and Sophia as input for GPT-3 and ask it to generate the following scenes (y)
Well, I’d obviously prefer Ellie and Sophia, but I’m an open minded consumer and not predisposed to complaining.

I’m only commenting on the tone and how lacking in detail the communication is - working for a better tomorrow and all that, but it’s always tomorrow and never today. Reads like corporate propaganda.
 

nexer

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Well, I’d obviously prefer Ellie and Sophia, but I’m an open minded consumer and not predisposed to complaining.

I’m only commenting on the tone and how lacking in detail the communication is - working for a better tomorrow and all that, but it’s always tomorrow and never today. Reads like corporate propaganda.
If Bane71 hasn't complained about L&P's messaging it means his propaganda is weak. I say that because Bane is Russian and Russians know how and what good propaganda means. If the Russians don't know either ... :unsure::sneaky:
 

bayrischman

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I read it like this: He wants to publish the next update towards the end of January 2022. I didn't expect an earlier appointment anyway. If he announces this date then he will deliver around this time - unless aliens land on earth then it will be delayed by a week. He decided too quickly to announce a new feature for the game and is now not sure whether he can integrate it into this update. He asks for patience. It says nothing more - not even about the aliens.
let us surprise ourselves
 
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In this case, I don't understand this logic of critics!

I'll note that I'm not telling anyone to leave, but I absolutely don't understand why come back here if you don't like and persistently demand that L&P follow your instructions on how to conduct its business? After all, there are others who are supposedly better!

Look at KillJoys, he didn't like it and he stopped being a patron, he expresses criticism, but I didn't see him accusing or insulting L&P. Here, in my opinion, is an example to follow.

In any case, my friend, I don't want this discussion to continue. Have a nice day.
Please note I do not DEMAND! I recommend. We on this pirate site have no ability to DEMAND. Hell, even Patrons have no DEMAND they can beg and/or leave. I think you need to understand this first. What we do here is openly worry that under his current processes this is doomed to fail, be abandoned. Maybe we like the VN enough that we want to see it finished. Do you think that taking 30 years will see it finished? That is what his current production rate is projecting. So no DEMANDS just concern that he will fail. By the way, most restaurants fail in the first two years. And now we have both had our last two cents.
 
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nexer

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I hope L&P surprises us with something like this: Sophia rejects Aiden's 4th task, talks to Morello and ... comes back to have a "little chat" with Aiden ;)
 

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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update and he'll keep us informed, providing answers once he reaches a certain point in the update's development (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he had previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
I have stopped trying to make sense of it and just subscribe to GingerSweetGirl s presentation that it never should have been done. I find that easier for my pea brain.
 
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