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In the teaser post he said end of january so far.



This is also the only thread i know of were people desperatley shtting on the developer like this. It like people on onlyfans insulting women for nothshowing enough and then expect them to show more XD
I believe there are several reasons. However, they all go to the point that the Dev has LIED (How long has he promised to get assistance!) on more than one occasion. Second, that these LIES indicate there is long term concern for the completion of the VN. GingerSweetGirl has addressed this quite well indicating that this is a unique product and is tops in its genre. Yet, the Devs inability to produce in a timely manner nearly guarantees its failure and future abandonment. For those that enjoy the VN this is very concerning. And yes, there are some that take it too far just like there are those apologizing for the Dev that take it too far. If you are confident you will still be here in 28 years and that is an acceptable time frame for completion then bravo for you (and your children). Us deplorables that do not believe this will be long gone anyway.
 

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If you complain about the long time between updates try a teaser, it may cure your annoyance
 

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Sophia probably hasn't seen & used a remote vibrator. When Aiden orders her to put it into her pant (or put it with his own hand, I prefer), she hesitates and then obeys. It is not a big deal, she thinks.
My friend, if you have seen a 'innocent' woman's first trial of a vibrator, you know what her legs movement will be. That explains why she needs to take cover behind her desk.
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Antonio the Sybian was more intimate. If you play the Alyssa 'date' segment you'll come away with the impression that Sophia is not such an innocent when it comes to sex toys. I don't find remote control toys all that exciting, mainly because, well, they're remote. It might be fun for Aiden but not so much for anybody else, unless women going into sudden apparently inexplicable paroxysms is erotic. IMO they're about as erotic as an electric handshake & the facial expressions they produce are similar.

I hope it's not a remote control toy based task. Sophia could pretend she was having a fit, for the benefit of the class.
 
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So based upon the amount of content in the upcoming update, does it seem like we might get the next Sam scene in the update after that, or will it be a couple of updates? The SophiaxSam ship is the only thing keeping this train rolling for me at this point.
 
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So based upon the amount of content in the upcoming update, does it seem like we might get the next Sam scene in the update after that, or will it be a couple of updates? The SophiaxSam ship is the only thing keeping this train rolling for me at this point.
Update 1: The entire morning

Update 2: Dylan/Ellie Part 1 + Part 2

Update 3: Dylan comes home from boarding school

Update 4 : 2nd side job 3rd day

Update 5 : Sophia/Sam
 
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I believe there are several reasons. However, they all go to the point that the Dev has LIED (How long has he promised to get assistance!) on more than one occasion. Second, that these LIES indicate there is long term concern for the completion of the VN. GingerSweetGirl has addressed this quite well indicating that this is a unique product and is tops in its genre. Yet, the Devs inability to produce in a timely manner nearly guarantees its failure and future abandonment. For those that enjoy the VN this is very concerning. And yes, there are some that take it too far just like there are those apologizing for the Dev that take it too far. If you are confident you will still be here in 28 years and that is an acceptable time frame for completion then bravo for you (and your children). Us deplorables that do not believe this will be long gone anyway.
There are several things I do not understand though.

First of all I am not that long on here or had contact with these kind of games. But honestly I do not see much different from other games which also take months to fisnish for 40-50 Minutes of "gameplay" . So i do not even see much difference from other games on here.

I also never saw him lying. He even explained why it is so difficult for him to find other people. It is mostly a trust issue for him ao it is probably a difficult situation. And given his patreons who PAY for this game they seem pretty happy giving the comments.

And I dont think criticism is the problem here. But the baiscally the Onlyfans effect I explained earlier. if you are not interested in this game or it makes you upset why are these people always here and not wait for the next update at least to complain.


Honestly If I were L&P and I would read here everyday I would also lose motivation and the will communicate outside his patreons. Of all the games I currently follow this is the one thread with the most negativity on a constant basis shitting on the developer. Thats also why I do not want to share anything public whats on his patreon. If I would post the teaser there sure would be poeple being upset about not seeing her pussy or her getting fucked already.

Update 3: Dylan comes home from boarding school
What would people see that are not on this route XD
 

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Antonio the Sybian was more intimate. If you play the Alyssa 'date' segment you'll come away with the impression that Sophia is not such an innocent when it comes to sex toys. I don't find remote control toys all that exciting, mainly because, well, they're remote. It might be fun for Aiden but not so much for anybody else, unless women going into sudden apparently inexplicable paroxsysms is erotic. IMO they're about as erotic as an electric handshake & the facial expressions they produce are similar.

I hope it's not a remote control toy based task. Sophia could pretend she was having a fit, for the benefit of the class.
I think we have to keep in mind that this is not a normal situation, Sophia experiences a mixture of humiliation, sexual arousal, fear, shame... She is on the edge, and her reaction can't be normal, it's multiplied. In front of Liam nothing would happen but in front of her own students any stimulus can multiply several times.
 

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Antonio the Sybian was more intimate. If you play the Alyssa 'date' segment you'll come away with the impression that Sophia is not such an innocent when it comes to sex toys. I don't find remote control toys all that exciting, mainly because, well, they're remote. It might be fun for Aiden but not so much for anybody else, unless women going into sudden apparently inexplicable paroxsysms is erotic. IMO they're about as erotic as an electric handshake & the facial expressions they produce are similar.

I hope it's not a remote control toy based task. Sophia could pretend she was having a fit, for the benefit of the class.
To each his own, but these toys (remote vibrating eggs) exist because a lot of people like them, as myself. I think it would be very erotic if Aiden would do that with Sophia in class, with the risk of being discover by the whole class. Those toys are made to be used in public, it's the kink (between lovers irl)
 

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I think we have to keep in mind that this is not a normal situation, Sophia experiences a mixture of humiliation, sexual arousal, fear, shame... She is on the edge, and her reaction can't be normal, it's multiplied. In front of Liam nothing would happen but in front of her own students any stimulus can multiply several times.
That's not my point, which is that the only person really enjoying this visually would be Aiden & even he is at the back of the class. After the tour de force that was the 3rd task & the limitations of the classroom, it could be expected that the 4th task might not be the feast for the eyes that the 3rd one was but watching a woman grimacing & twisting & trying to look unconcerned, (while doing the internal monologue routine?), might not be all that great. I don't know whether the setting would multiply the effect, (I have my doubts) but if it did, this would only make the above-imagined reactions worse.

If she's going to moan in front of the class, which seems possible, there's going to be some explaining to do, as in she'll have to feign a fit, or pretend she's ill, neither of which resonates with eroticism. As I havn't seen the teaser it's hard to speculate further but from the descriptions it sounds like a remote control toy is a real possibility. This has all been done so many times elsewhere. I find myself asking, 'when is this set, The 90s?'
 

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That's not my point, which is that the only person really enjoying this visually would be Aiden & even he is at the back of the class. After the tour de force that was the 3rd task & the limitations of the classroom, it could be expected that the 4th task might not be the feast for the eyes that the 3rd one was but watching a woman grimacing & twisting & trying to look unconcerned, (while doing the internal monologue routine?), might not be all that great. I don't know whether the setting would multiply the effect, (I have my doubts) but if it did, this would only make the above-imagined reactions worse.

If she's going to moan in front of the class, which seems possible, there's going to be some explaining to do, as in she'll have to feign a fit, or pretend she's ill, neither of which resonates with eroticism. As I havn't seen the teaser it's hard to speculate further but from the descriptions it sounds like a remote control toy is a real possibility. This has all been done so many times elsewhere. I find myself asking, 'when is this set, The 90s?'
I'm not going for the sex toy idea. And I still think that at school it has to look "accidental", "unintentional", otherwise it's provocation, striptease in front of her own students, which is... grounds for firing.
 

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It is mostly a trust issue for him ao it is probably a difficult situation. And given his patreons who PAY for this game they seem pretty happy giving the comments.
This lack of trust all stems from him having moved the goalposts on the targets he announced when he started. This happened when they were achieved. Things, not surprisingly, went downhill from there. I agree that some comments could be hard to take for even a thick-skinned individual (& L&P seems to be of an "artistic temperament") but trust is a 2-way street.

One reason why much criticism can be observed in this thread concerns the sheer size of it. It's huge & that's a sign of the interest this VN generates. Even the release to a select audience of the most recent teaser created a buzz, whether for good or not being a matter of opinion. "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is an over-used old adage but it has a strong element of truth, especially when applied to the creative arts.

Personally, I try to aim for balance in praise & criticism, secure in the knowledge that as it comes from a pirate, it will largely be ignored, either way.
 
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