VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

Yeah when she showed dylan her breasts they were big enough and round… in 0.150 they were a little small.. again in the teaser they are somewhat big. L&P should have that consistency.

They've never been small. She started at a 36b or d, which were proportionate to her build & now she averages around a 44DD, or top-heavy, as I call it. As I've said on numerous occasions, there's no way she'd look like this unless she'd had implants. We know that she hasn't from the dialogue & the lame explanation is that they never went down after having kids. [I presume she didn't breast-feed as much as she might claim, otherwise she wouldn't have the air-bags, unless she over-ate, or had a serious illness]. There's no way that she'd have 44DD breasts with the sporting activities she undertakes, e.g. swimming, regular jogging, yoga, basketball, etc., all of which have the tendency to reduce breast size.

That ludicrous bounce-along jog in the park, I didn't play, even as a side game. Enough is enough. Even at the height of "jiggle TV" in the 70s, (think original Charlie's Angels etc.), there was nothing as exaggerated on screen. Cheap, no-plot, sexploitation porn movies were the only place such items could be regularly viewed.

 

[vovalenin1917]

Hi everybody. Happy New Year! I really liked the game, exciting, beautifully rendered! It's a pity that updates don't come out often, I hope the author will increase the speed. Tell me where you can download this game with a Russian translation? Thank you in advance!

 

[Juliano013]

when releases the new version?

 

[Bobbos]

now she averages around a 44DD

It's kind of funny and maybe even somewhat sad to see you still not understanding how bra sizes work even after it has been explained to you.
And your strong dislike for big boobs is pretty pathetic considering you're always just repeating the same thing over and over again when the topic of her boobs come up.

Stereotypical stubborn old man who refuses to learn.

 

[Bane71]

Hi everybody. Happy New Year! I really liked the game, exciting, beautifully rendered! It's a pity that updates don't come out often, I hope the author will increase the speed. Tell me where you can download this game with a Russian translation? Thank you in advance!

Unfortunately, I don’t know a site that has a translation of the latest version of the game. Previous here:

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[Sabertooth__]

Yeah when she showed dylan her breasts they were big enough and round… in 0.150 they were a little small.. again in the teaser they are somewhat big. L&P should have that consistency.

The breast size has been decreased on Day 19. It was totally out of proportion from Day 17 onwards. So that was a welcome change that he made on Day 19.

As for it looking bigger here it depends on the angle you are looking from. The distance, the kind of clothing the woman is wearing, whether she is wearing a bra or not, the kind of bra a woman is wearing. There are just too many factors.

Like even if you look at the last updates Nathalie event you would feel that Sophia's breast size changes mid scene but that is not the case as changing breast mid scene makes no sense. It is only because of the angles and the position Sophia is in.

They've never been small. She started at a 36b or d, which were proportionate to her build & now she averages around a 44DD, or top-heavy, as I call it. As I've said on numerous occasions, there's no way she'd look like this unless she'd had implants. We know that she hasn't from the dialogue & the lame explanation is that they never went down after having kids. [I presume she didn't breast-feed as much as she might claim, otherwise she wouldn't have the air-bags, unless she over-ate, or had a serious illness]. There's no way that she'd have 44DD breasts with the sporting activities she undertakes, e.g. swimming, regular jogging, yoga, basketball, etc., all of which have the tendency to reduce breast size.

That ludicrous bounce-along jog in the park, I didn't play, even as a side game. Enough is enough. Even at the height of "jiggle TV" in the 70s, (think original Charlie's Angels etc.), there was nothing as exaggerated on screen. Cheap, no-plot, sexploitation porn movies were the only place such items could be regularly viewed.

I know you are discontent with the breast size but the way you are mention her size is wrong.

36 cannot just become 44. That is the band size. Whereas as the C and DD represent cup size. The DD refers to her actual breast size. The 36 inches helps in selecting the appropriate bra that fits on her torso.
Sophia's torso is still the same. Only the cup size has changed in between.
At the beginning of the game Sophia says she is a 36D

Also from the narrative pov it would only make sense if Sophia has big breasts. Since everyone seems to be fascinated by her breasts. If her breasts were average and not eye catching then it would make no sense as to why everyone keeps getting attracted to her breasts.
I would say that this is rather a correction that L&P has made to an initial mistake of making them look too ordinary.
He did however make another mistake and make them too big during Day 17 and 18. Day 19 onwards i felt that they were near the right size based on the narrative.

This is just my rational opinion on the matter. Ofcourse it your personal preference and I won't rebuke you for it but maybe you should look past this now.

 

[vovalenin1917]

Unfortunately, I don’t know a site that has a translation of the latest version of the game. Previous here:

You must be registered to see the links

Thanks. I've looked already, but there's only version 0.130. I'll wait, maybe they'll update it.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

when releases the new version?

~30 day

 

[Deleted member 3853862]

The breast size has been decreased on Day 19. It was totally out of proportion from Day 17 onwards. So that was a welcome change that he made on Day 19.

As for it looking bigger here it depends on the angle you are looking from. The distance, the kind of clothing the woman is wearing, whether she is wearing a bra or not, the kind of bra a woman is wearing. There are just too many factors.

Like even if you look at the last updates Nathalie event you would feel that Sophia's breast size changes mid scene but that is not the case as changing breast mid scene makes no sense. It is only because of the angles and the position Sophia is in.


I know you are discontent with the breast size but the way you are mention her size is wrong.

36 cannot just become 44. That is the band size. Whereas as the C and DD represent cup size. The DD refers to her actual breast size. The 36 inches helps in selecting the appropriate bra that fits on her torso.
Sophia's torso is still the same. Only the cup size has changed in between.
At the beginning of the game Sophia says she is a 36D

Also from the narrative pov it would only make sense if Sophia has big breasts. Since everyone seems to be fascinated by her breasts. If her breasts were average and not eye catching then it would make no sense as to why everyone keeps getting attracted to her breasts.
I would say that this is rather a correction that L&P has made to an initial mistake of making them look too ordinary.
He did however make another mistake and make them too big during Day 17 and 18. Day 19 onwards i felt that they were near the right size based on the narrative.

This is just my rational opinion on the matter. Ofcourse it your personal preference and I won't rebuke you for it but maybe you should look past this now.

I think during V 0.135, he replied to a comment that he has educed the size!

 

[Lipif]

Ellie is so cute !!! rhooooo , the game is verry verry good ( sorry i m french my english is terrific !! lol )

 

[ancienregimele]

I won't rebuke you for it but maybe you should look past this now.

I can't because L&P spoiled the look of my all-time favourite MC. At 36D she was quite eye-catching enough, IMO. I understand the bust measurement issue & to me that's how much she appears to have increased, hence my banging on about implants. I concede that she has become slightly more proportionate since the day she almost crowded Dylan out of the changing booth on her own but her measurements remain off-balance & it isn't something that can be ignored or escaped, except by terminating involvement with the VN. (I almost did & I'm guessing there are some who wish I had)!

We all make mistakes but IMO, this was far & away L&P's biggest. It almost ruined the whole thing for me because, i) the change is fundamental, ii) it doesn't look right, iii) it follows an unattractive, IMO, game stereotype & iv) it concerns a sexual aspect of the character, which for me, makes it different from other seriously strange character morphs we've had, such as Dylan aging 4 years in 1 day.

There was no reason why characters in the story couldn't have been obsessed with Sophia's breasts without a need to make them so big.

 

[sergey matveev]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

 

[Bane71]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

))) What if there are no students in the class?

 

[Sabertooth__]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

No offense, but the number of things I disagree with in this message are so many that I can't even begin to start explaining my disagreement. I would literally take quite a number pages for me to explain each and every point I disagree with.

 

[sergey matveev]

))) What if there are no students in the class?

go to the women's toilet and do what needs to be done.

 

[ancienregimele]

It's kind of funny and maybe even somewhat sad to see you still not understanding how bra sizes work even after it has been explained to you.
And your strong dislike for big boobs is pretty pathetic considering you're always just repeating the same thing over and over again when the topic of her boobs come up.

Stereotypical stubborn old man who refuses to learn.

I call it "set in my ways" & I'll carry on repeating it whenever I wish & when something triggers that reaction, despite what you or anyone else might say. I was probably doing a lot more than just ogling women's breasts long before you were a twinkle in anyone's eye. I have no strong dislike for big breasts, as several well-endowed girlfriends would attest. What I can't appreciate is what the Dev has done to the MC. I understand bust measurements & know perfectly well that breasts don't suddenly increase several sizes overnight, without implants. I was looking at the bra ads in catalogues when a man first went into space, so please don't confuse age with a lack of understanding.

Try not calling me pathetic or sad next time because I'm so old-school that I take it as a personal insult & especially don't call me stereotypical. If you read my posts properly, you'll see that I hate stereotypes & believe me, I'm far from that. I continue on this anti-air-bag theme because I want the Dev to read this & know that not everyone is a pubescent school-boy who has never quite left their mother's breasts behind & that there should be no further increase. I don't care if he hates pirates, or not.

 

[sergey matveev]

If there are no students in the class, then it makes no sense to hide behind the table.

 

[Jozef Minge]

I'm impatient for this update...

 

[1879]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

In the end, it's just a game where everyone can play their fantasies if they want. I've said it before: soon every child in town will know what their pussy looks like. And she has a lot of interest in young cocks.

 

[sergey matveev]

In fact, "... it's just a game ..." is a very weak argument in any debate to justify poor product quality. I am ironic about porn - a world in which everything is possible. that is why the porn genre does not require even minimal intelligence, but the author swung at EROTIC NOVELLA, but very quickly slipped onto a meaningless toy with a low-quality script.