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I'm a recent player and only started with the last 0.150 version and when I read back at patreon posts, I can see L&P said he removed a "twist" about Dylan, something about a deal with Aiden. Can you tell me what was the twist he removed and what kind of deal he was speaking about?
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Close but not exactly.
Dylan didn't know anything about Aiden's tasks.
In hindsight it was an incredibly dumb plot line that L&P was smart to remove.
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Even with the dev of Free Pass attempting to flee the Myanmar Junta, occasional cuts to electricity, threats of jail or death etc, he's still just announced the latest (approximately 1200 render) update should be available in about a week. And the last update was released at the start of January.
Dylan certainly knew about at least the first two. The whole 12 was the surprise.
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2 months? The previous update got released on November 20th. It's actually more like 3 months and 10 days, if L&P can even make it till the end of February, as that's his current goal. We are already way past the 2 month mark, buddy.
The previous update of AWAM had somewhere between 800-900 renders if I remember correctly, and it took L&P more than 5 months, not 3,5-4.
You are throwing numbers around in L&P's favor, shaving off substantial amounts of time on his development cycles and adding a large amount of renders that are non existent. I get that you're trying to defend L&P, but atleast try to be a bit more realistic.
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Ok, here below is the whole thing that has been removed as The Twist.
TL;DR;
Dylan asked Aiden "'ll get you the data you want and for that you'll tell my mom to dress more sexy."
There were no tasks in the deal, just dress more sexy under the threat of beating Dylan.
And then the other reveal:
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Ok, close enough. Still though, the concept is hard to explain now that we have some distance from it. Some times plot lines don't come together like you expect, and good ideas can go bad, and this was one of those times. I know you liked the idea because it have Dylan some agency over the story because he's otherwise boring. But conceptually I think the idea was fundamentally flawed.
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What I'm curious about is whether or not the Twist was actually removed. If you look at the tasks so far, it still looks like the first two could have been Dylan's idea, but Aiden has run with it and added his own (much to Dylan's surprise and without his knowledge). We were even told that the removal of the event wouldn't affect the story significantly.
So the only thing we can be certain of is that the event was removed, and that Sophia didn't find out about Dylan's possible involvement. Which is disappointing to me, because it makes Dylan look even worse. Doing bad is one thing, but not having the courage to admit it and at least try and make reparations borders on unforgivable.
After reading the whole twist about Dylan and Aiden, it's even worse than what I was thinking. In my opinion, it's a good thing it was removed.
Even if I guess I would hate Aiden a little less with this story.
Instead of being a little brat using blackmailing just because "I'm a PuNk bEiNg fRiEnD WiTh GaNg aNd mA uNcLe iS sUch a lAwYer sO I dO wHaT I wAnT, wHaT yu gOnna dO UH!", it would only be a guy going beyond what he was initially asked, taking advantages of the situation. But it was not his idea in the beginning. Still immoral but feel different.
But hurray, now I can still hate him to the fullest
Even if I guess I would hate Aiden a little less with this story.
Instead of being a little brat using blackmailing just because "I'm a PuNk bEiNg fRiEnD WiTh GaNg aNd mA uNcLe iS sUch a lAwYer sO I dO wHaT I wAnT, wHaT yu gOnna dO UH!", it would only be a guy going beyond what he was initially asked, taking advantages of the situation. But it was not his idea in the beginning. Still immoral but feel different.
But hurray, now I can still hate him to the fullest
I know everyone's moved on but I gotta say I find myself agreeing with a lot of you on the game's update speed on both ends of this, I wish you guys could find some middle ground. I think it's completely understandable how we got to this point, but I also don't think continuing on as the creator is going is gonna work when the expected completion date keeps getting exponentially farther and farther away with each branch and update.
I don't think they're lazy, I think they just need to figure out a solution to this. I don't know if that means splitting the game into 2 or what, I'm no dev, but I do know that this isn't going to finish at this rate. I don't think getting one person to help them out is enough tbh
I don't think they're lazy, I think they just need to figure out a solution to this. I don't know if that means splitting the game into 2 or what, I'm no dev, but I do know that this isn't going to finish at this rate. I don't think getting one person to help them out is enough tbh
I think what L&P means when he says it won't affect the story by having it removed is if you don't send Dylan away Sophia would never have learnt of the twist and the Dylan path moves on, if you do send him away she leaves him at the school as punishment for the twist and removes him from the story almost all together almost the same as no twist but she leaves him there for protection instead.
I think it's your dislike of Dylan and personal head canon that won't let you accept that the twist is gone.
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Just because I'm bored atm.
AWAM - v0.115 Timeframe (1/3) - Total Renders: 470
First Post - 10.7.20
Release Post - 12.8.20
Total Days - v0.115
Stop Gaps between version 0.115 & 0.130 (Personal, Holidays, Vacations, ETC...)
GFX Issue - Due to upgrading his Graphic Cards.
AWAM - v0.130 Timeframe (2/3) - Total Renders: 994
First Post - 1.20.21
Release Post - 6.14.21
Total Days - v0.130
Stop Gaps between version 0.130 & 0.150 (Personal, Holidays, Vacations, ETC...)
AWAM - v0.150 Timeframe (3/3) - Total Renders: 873
First Post - 7.8.21
Release Post - 11.19.21
Total Days - v0.150
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It doesn't matter if you send Dylan and Zac to boarding school or not. The Twist would be in play because it was the driving force behind the story and in the indirect cause of blackmail by Aiden. We learn of the reason behind it by taking an alternate path. This is why if you want to know the full story, you have to play all the paths and not lock out one because hints and answers are found in other parts of the path.
If you choose not to play all the paths, you're missing critical elements of the overall story.
The manner of how Dylan is acting and the conversation between Sophia and Alyssa in the cafe make absolutely no sense. I said it once, and I'll repeat it; just because you remove one piece of the story because your audience has an adverse reaction to it doesn't mean the story can carry on if you remove one part of that story. He should have gone back and reviewed the storyline after eliminating that piece of the story.
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He says on his patreon page that, "This is my first game of hopefully many more." However, the way time is lengthening in how the story for this game is coming out I seriously doubt he'll ever get the chance to do another game. That's disappointing as I think he's good at what he does in so far as this story goes. He might have been better served if he had started with small test stories first that didn't take much effort to make solo. That way he would have learned from any mistakes he made in the beginning. Then with 2 or 3 small visual tales under his belt he would have been better served in undertaking this story about Sophia which offers a lot of material that can be branched out from with side characters, minor plots, and main story twists. That's a lot for just one person to do. Or by that time he might have found a few other people he could work with to increase his results.