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Alley_Cat

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Sorry I'm not following what you are saying.
Why the first Sophia's actual sex scene would be on PD19?

PD 15 has a lesbian scene and that involves Sophia by exclusion, as Ellie and Dylan, those who are involved in the list of scenes as per latest admission, will be not there (no Dylan and no Ellie events that day according to the intel) and the ranch event will be probably the only one event of the day ("one large event...")

PD 16 has 2 hetero scenes and 1 lesbian. We have that old quote about the first extra-marital affair ("something that nobody expected at the moment"), so I'd say that at least one of the hetero scene is for Sophia.

Am I missing something?
L&P went on a bit of a rant and let slip that "Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30!". He deleted the post, but someone else quoted it, so you can still read what he wrote. It's under spoiler #5.
 

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Which is an example of L&P's vagueness bordering on the obtuse.

He was being asked when would Sophia have sex with someone other than her husband. He replied with the post about the 6 sex / sexual scanes over the coming few days, with from memory 4 lesbian and 2 hetero scenes - someone please remind me if I misrembered that. So the reasonable assumption is that ALL of the six sex / sexual scenes feauting Sophia.

But of course now it seems that at least some of those six sex / sexual scenes will NOT involve Sophia.....
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We should be happy if half of the scenes are with Sophia.Probably only lesbian scenes.
The game will be only sex scenes in last 5-6 days.Not that we have a big chance to ever reach last 5-6 days.
 

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A worry of mine is this update is coming along fast because there isn't any content and its similar to the last swinger couple event we had.

But surely now that each event is its own update he wouldn't dare to do that correct?
Kinda depends on what actually happened with Patreon. If they were getting complaints because of the second side job, then L&P could absolutely make this a small event with nothing interesting happening with the shota boys. They do have another event on PD14, so little in terms of in-game time will have been lost if their content was postponed a day.
 

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Kinda depends on what actually happened with Patreon. If they were getting complaints because of the second side job, then L&P could absolutely make this a small event with nothing interesting happening with the shota boys. They do have another event on PD14, so little in terms of in-game time will have been lost if their content was postponed a day.
So anyone here on Patreon that can give some insight of what the Patreon people think about the events nowadays?

Not just with the Myers boys.
 
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L&P went on a bit of a rant and let slip that "Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30!". He deleted the post, but someone else quoted it, so you can still read what he wrote. It's under spoiler #5.
:unsure::unsure: Since you guys are talking about this let me ask you isn't the filthy route the same as the swing route of the Cathy/Andy couple? because that way I get more informed about both ways or is it the same thing!
 

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:unsure::unsure: Since you guys are talking about this let me ask you isn't the filthy route the same as the swing route of the Cathy/Andy couple? because that way I get more informed about both ways or is it the same thing!
Really hoping the swinging stuff is on the good wife route. Makes more sense there than the filthy wife route.

The filthy wife route is more of Sophia doing stuff on her own behind her husband's back. The good wife route is her doing stuff with her husband. So the swinging stuff would be better fit for the good wife as it is her and her husband doing things together as a couple.
 

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Really hoping the swinging stuff is on the good wife route. Makes more sense there than the filthy wife route.

The filthy wife route is more of Sophia doing stuff on her own behind her husband's back. The good wife route is her doing stuff with her husband. So the swinging stuff would be better fit for the good wife as it is her and her husband doing things together as a couple.
Yes now it makes more sense Thanks for clarifying was in doubt about that lol now I'm sure these two straight sex events maybe it's with the Andy/Cathy couple as L&P said "It will be something no one expected at the moment" hope it's that or will be scenes with Liam and Sophia only but maybe spicy sex with something more between the two :devilish:
 

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Yes now it makes more sense Thanks for clarifying was in doubt about that lol now I'm sure these two straight sex events maybe it's with the Andy/Cathy couple as L&P said "It will be something no one expected at the moment" hope it's that or will be scenes with Liam and Sophia only but maybe spicy sex with something more between the two :devilish:
If we can an update that's nothing but Liam and Cathy...
 

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:unsure::unsure: Since you guys are talking about this let me ask you isn't the filthy route the same as the swing route of the Cathy/Andy couple? because that way I get more informed about both ways or is it the same thing!
Really hoping the swinging stuff is on the good wife route. Makes more sense there than the filthy wife route.

The filthy wife route is more of Sophia doing stuff on her own behind her husband's back. The good wife route is her doing stuff with her husband. So the swinging stuff would be better fit for the good wife as it is her and her husband doing things together as a couple.
Anything involving Liam is a GW event. So the swinging event will be a GW event, not Filthy route. But, even if you're playing the Filthy route, with 100-odd Filthy points available, it will likely be possible to play the swinging event and still maintain F > GW if the player so chooses.

Like currently for those playing the Nat path, it's still available to those predominately on the GW route, even though the latest Nat event added a Filthy point. Or for those playing the Ellie and Patricia path it's still possible to play the GW scene with Liam on PD11 after the jacuzzi and still maintain F > GW.

I'm guessing, but it may even be possible to play some of the sex scenes with Liam for those on the Dylan and/or Sam routes. To my knowledge, no one is willing to try it though.
 
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So anyone here on Patreon that can give some insight of what the Patreon people think about the events nowadays?

Not just with the Myers boys.
I was on Patreon but switched to L&P on Subscribestar (PassionFruit) because I think eventually Patreon will kill AWAM since the subterfuge of DOL will only go so far.

Patreon has become much more draconian enforcing their 'morality' rules over the last few years.

An example is Jackerman who makes great animations, but some include Patreon 'unfriendly' content. He never published on Patreon and did all his releases via Discord, using Patreon as a means for people to back him financially. He knew that Patreon might try to shut him down, so he also created a Subscribestar (SS) account (this is my summation of what happened since I became a supporter after Patreon attacked him).

Eventually, Patreon told him that they needed full access to everything on his Discord site - which would obviously give Patreon the ammunition they needed to shut his account down. He sent out a warning to all his supporters to shift from Patreon to SS and explained why. I have no access to numbers but he is very well supported on SS and his Patreon site is now listed as under review.

I wonder what happens to funds collected by Patreon for a creator who they put under review/suspend/terminate. Do those funds default to Patreon or are they returned to that creator's supporters?

If anyone has any insight on this, please share here because if Patreon gets to keep those funds, then they have a financial incentive to play hardball with anyone who is not staying well within the lines of their increasingly conservative rule set.

If there was a way to persuade almost all of L&P's Patreon supporters to move to SS, then he could get rid of all the work he needs to do on DOL to keep up the illusion of following Patreon's rules... resulting in more time for AWAM (which would hopefully lead to faster updates). He'd also be protecting the golden goose - AWAM - from the high potential for a serious funding disruption at a time Not of his choosing.
 

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I was on Patreon but switched to L&P on Subscribestar (PassionFruit) because I think eventually Patreon will kill AWAM since the subterfuge of DOL will only go so far.

Patreon has become much more draconian enforcing their 'morality' rules over the last few years.

An example is Jackerman who makes great animations, but some include Patreon 'unfriendly' content. He never published on Patreon and did all his releases via Discord, using Patreon as a means for people to back him financially. He knew that Patreon might try to shut him down, so he also created a Subscribestar (SS) account (this is my summation of what happened since I became a supporter after Patreon attacked him).

Eventually, Patreon told him that they needed full access to everything on his Discord site - which would obviously give Patreon the ammunition they needed to shut his account down. He sent out a warning to all his supporters to shift from Patreon to SS and explained why. I have no access to numbers but he is very well supported on SS and his Patreon site is now listed as under review.

I wonder what happens to funds collected by Patreon for a creator who they put under review/suspend/terminate. Do those funds default to Patreon or are they returned to that creator's supporters?

If anyone has any insight on this, please share here because if Patreon gets to keep those funds, then they have a financial incentive to play hardball with anyone who is not staying well within the lines of their increasingly conservative rule set.

If there was a way to persuade almost all of L&P's Patreon supporters to move to SS, then he could get rid of all the work he needs to do on DOL to keep up the illusion of following Patreon's rules... resulting in more time for AWAM (which would hopefully lead to faster updates).
The only drawback I see is that SS doesn't accept PayPal, which is I guess the reason why L&P still uses Patreon...
 

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I was on Patreon but switched to L&P on Subscribestar (PassionFruit) because I think eventually Patreon will kill AWAM since the subterfuge of DOL will only go so far.

Patreon has become much more draconian enforcing their 'morality' rules over the last few years.

An example is Jackerman who makes great animations, but some include Patreon 'unfriendly' content. He never published on Patreon and did all his releases via Discord, using Patreon as a means for people to back him financially. He knew that Patreon might try to shut him down, so he also created a Subscribestar (SS) account (this is my summation of what happened since I became a supporter after Patreon attacked him).

Eventually, Patreon told him that they needed full access to everything on his Discord site - which would obviously give Patreon the ammunition they needed to shut his account down. He sent out a warning to all his supporters to shift from Patreon to SS and explained why. I have no access to numbers but he is very well supported on SS and his Patreon site is now listed as under review.

I wonder what happens to funds collected by Patreon for a creator who they put under review/suspend/terminate. Do those funds default to Patreon or are they returned to that creator's supporters?

If anyone has any insight on this, please share here because if Patreon gets to keep those funds, then they have a financial incentive to play hardball with anyone who is not staying well within the lines of their increasingly conservative rule set.

If there was a way to persuade almost all of L&P's Patreon supporters to move to SS, then he could get rid of all the work he needs to do on DOL to keep up the illusion of following Patreon's rules... resulting in more time for AWAM (which would hopefully lead to faster updates). He'd also be protecting the golden goose - AWAM - from the high potential for a serious funding disruption at a time Not of his choosing.
As was informed to us by Bibifoc Patreon knows about Awam as well but they don't care. They only evaluated DOL and asked him to make changes to it.
I don't know the specifics about Jackerman but if he was only collecting funds from Patreon and delivering only on Discord that would be a problem. L&P provides DOL on Patreon every update.

Anything involving Liam is a GW event. So the swinging event will be a GW event, not a Filthy route. But, even if you're playing the Filthy route, with 100-odd Filthy points available, it will likely be possible to play the swinging event and still maintain F > GW if the player so chooses.

Like currently for those playing the Nat path, it's still available to those predominately on the GW route, even though the latest Nat event added a Filthy point. Or for those playing the Ellie and Patricia path it's still possible to play the GW scene with Liam on PD11 after the jacuzzi and still maintain F > GW.

I guessing, but it may even be possible to play some of the sex scenes with Liam for those on the Dylan and/or Sam routes. To my knowledge, no one is willing to try it though.
If i remember right you can play all Liam Sophia sex scenes if you are not on Ellie's route. Ofcourse allowing Don Morello will be an active choice at the casino but if you are in Ellie route there is no choice to have sex with Liam.
If you refuse Ellie and take Liam home from the casino i think all Liam Sophia sex scenes are possible.
 
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L&P went on a bit of a rant and let slip that "Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30!". He deleted the post, but someone else quoted it, so you can still read what he wrote. It's under spoiler #5.
oh I forgot about the "famous" PD 19 post. Figure that it was my very first question in this thread and finally I have an answer! :) thanks!

It's an interesting reading even if it dates back to 2019.

Ellie’s not a slut YET and it was already highlighted a couple of times that Ellie’s into older guys who are very popular! Logan will become Ellie’s new boyfriend but Sophia will have the chance to change her mind at playable day 16. After this day Ellie’s storyline will take 3-4 different routes with different endings! Ellie has never been and also will never be a pure lesbian. But she can get bi sexual! So that Logan becomes Ellie’s new boyfriend is essential for Sophia’s further storyline with her and the chance to change her mind!
Speaking for myself, it's the first time I heard Ellie's story with the split into different routes **directly from him**. Good to know. It doesn't say anything about Logan and Sophia but I guess it was not the scope and, as usual, he didn't want to give too much away. From that it seems that Sophia will try to convince Ellie to move her interest on other characters, maybe Sam, Julia (but not as a pure lesbian).

So, I’m realistically planning to finish it within the next 3-4 years as one-man company!
This hasn't aged well... :D [apologies for the cheap shot]

Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30!
Ok, here is the conundrum. Because we now have that list and provided he's not misleading us, I'd interpret it as the first sex scene on that special filthy route, not the first sex scene ever of the game with somebody different than Liam.
Now that we know that it will be a lesbian one (the 4th) it seems plausible that "the special filthy route" will be with either Alyssa or Nathalie with the info we have atm. Vicky if I remember correctly is more for threesome.

Janitor Clark's story will be still unfolded but who can’t wait… Spoiler alarm: he’s an ex gangbanger (OG) and ex-con. In US jails, gang members kill rapists (of women) and child abuser immediately when they get the chance! Furthermore, he had a wife and kids and is working in this freaking school where Sophia’s teaching (one shits not where you eat!)!!!
I didn't know he back story of Janitor Clark, it's interesting. I wonder if the Janitor will have a role in helping Sophia either with Aiden or Bennett, given that he went all the way to specify that thing about rapists and child abusers to say that even him has a set of moral rules.

Finally, I could not help noticing some terms he threw around that have been a topic of discussion (bold is mine for emphasis):
[...]Furthermore, only when the masseur starts rubbing his dick against her daughter’s leg, she’ll get really angry, what is also understandable for a “no whore woman” or not?)![...]
[...]Ellie’s not a slut YET and it was already highlighted a couple of times that Ellie’s into older guys who are very popular! [...]

No big deal, it's just that they keep reminding me of that apocryphal sentence in the OP about the game "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?".
I still think (or hope) it's not meant literally and the language barrier has a role here.


I guessing, but it may even be possible to play some of the sex scenes with Liam for those on the Dylan and/or Sam routes. To my knowledge, no one is willing to try it though.
For sure you can play the one on the PD 11 in the evening, which has a slightly variation whether you are on Morello path or not. On Morello path you have a choice to have or deny sex with Liam in the bedroom after meeting Morello, in all the other route they will start in the jacuzzi and finish with the same sex scene in the bedroom (without choice this time).
"Surprising Liam at work" the next PD is available to all routes if you are not on Morello's (so e.g. possible on Dylan, Sam. Sam is one of the most independent routes so far).
 
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oh I forgot about the "famous" PD 19 post. Figure that it was my very first question in this thread and finally I have an answer! :) thanks!

It's an interesting reading even if it dates back to 2019.

Ellie’s not a slut YET and it was already highlighted a couple of times that Ellie’s into older guys who are very popular! Logan will become Ellie’s new boyfriend but Sophia will have the chance to change her mind at playable day 16. After this day Ellie’s storyline will take 3-4 different routes with different endings! Ellie has never been and also will never be a pure lesbian. But she can get bi sexual! So that Logan becomes Ellie’s new boyfriend is essential for Sophia’s further storyline with her and the chance to change her mind!

Speaking for myself, it's the first time I heard Ellie's story with the split into different routes **directly from him**. Good to know. It doesn't say anything about Logan and Sophia but I guess it was not the scope and, as usual, he didn't want to give to much away. From that he seems that Sophia will try to convince Ellie to move her interest on other characters, maybe Sam, Jules (but not as a pure lesbian).

So, I’m realistically planning to finish it within the next 3-4 years as one-man company!

This hasn't aged well... :D [apologies for the cheap shot]

Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30!

Ok, here is the conundrum. Because we now have that list and provided he's not misleading us, I'd interpret it as the first sex scene on that special filthy route, not the first sex scene ever of the game with somebody different than Liam.
Now that we know that it will be a lesbian one (the 4th) it seems plausible that "the special filthy route" will be with either Alyssa or Nathalie with the info we have atm. Vicky if I remember correctly is more for threesome.

Janitor Clark's story will be still unfolded but who can’t wait… Spoiler alarm: he’s an ex gangbanger (OG) and ex-con. In US jails, gang members kill rapists (of women) and child abuser immediately when they get the chance! Furthermore, he had a wife and kids and is working in this freaking school where Sophia’s teaching (one shits not where you eat!)!!!

I didn't know he back story of Janitor Clark, it's interesting. I wonder if the Janitor will have a role in helping Sophia either with Aiden or Bennett, given that he went all the way to specify rapist and child abuser to say that even him has a set of moral rules.

Finally, I could not help noticing some terms he threw around that have been a topic of discussion (bold is mine for emphasis):
[...]Furthermore, only when the masseur starts rubbing his dick against her daughter’s leg, she’ll get really angry, what is also understandable for a “no whore woman” or not?)![...]
[...]Ellie’s not a slut YET and it was already highlighted a couple of times that Ellie’s into older guys who are very popular! [...]

No big deal, it's just that they keep remind me of that apocryphal sentence in the OP about the game "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?".
I still think it's not meant literally and the language barrier has a role here.



For sure you can play the one on the PD 11 in the evening, which has a slightly variation whether you are on Morello path or not. On Morello path you have a choice to do or deny sex Liam in the bedroom after meeting Morello, in all the other route they will start in the jacuzzi and finish with the same sex scene in the bedroom (without choice this time).
"Surprising Liam at work" the next PD is available to all routes if you are not on Morello's (so e.g. possible on Dylan, Sam. Sam is one of the most independent routes so far).
Janitor Clark isn't needed for dealing with Bennett, Sophia already has the option to speak to the board to get out of that blackmail. The uncomfortable solution for Aiden's tasks on PD18 or whenever it is might be a possibility though, since AFAIK, we have no information who might be involved there. How involving Clark might be more uncomfortable than asking a favour of a Mob boss I find curious.

I also find it curious that if you're not interested in pursuing the Morello option to get out of Aiden's tasks, it opens up the option for one of the GW sex scenes. But if you're not interested in Aiden's tasks, or the Dylan route at all and want to play the Nightclub event, the Casino path becomes (for no particular reason) a requirement.
 

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I also find it curious that if you're not interested in pursuing the Morello option to get out of Aiden's tasks, it opens up the option for one of the GW sex scenes. But if you're not interested in Aiden's tasks, or the Dylan route at all and want to play the Nightclub event, the Casino path becomes (for no particular reason) a requirement.
There is also this particular combination that is curious: you can send Dylan to boarding school and refuse Bennett (both even at the very first occasion) and you still have the possibility of doing the Morello route, going "full" Larry and Morello will own Sophia a favour that she cannot cash, at least with the info we have so far. Sure, the debt will be extinguished, though.
 
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