VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Sabertooth__]

He doesn't need more variety, considering they are just rehashed events. For example, you have the postman already for old and the principal, if you want to consider that too, the classes in school plus Dylan, and there is your Sex-Ed and youth, so to expand upon them with side jobs is more fluff IMO.

As you can already guess, Coach Sophia would fit more into the NTR side. It supposes to be based on the conversation with his teammates during the soccer practice with Darnell. If I had to guess, I believe it would be another gangbang route that's an alternate from Aiden's path.

The dance class could have been made for a setup with Ellie/Lesbian because Elena, a friend of Ellie, is thought to be a lesbian as she tries to hook Julia up with her. In some aspects, he could expand on that story based on Sophia, Ellie, and Julie and use Elena with the dance class, like Coach Sophia. The Logan path is the Hetero path, Ellie, for the most part, but could play a role with Sophia/Ellie.

Frankly it is just not about Old, Middle aged or a teen. The kind of scenario that can be done with the Old men in the hospital is way different than what can be done with the Postman.
Even the other routes that you mention, just because a few routes have the same age demographic does not mean the content will be the same.
It is pretty early to even conclusively say what direction each storyline will go in. We don't know what L&P has planned for each route. Most definitely it is something different otherwise he wouldn't have started a new route from the beginning.

He has said that the postman will play a very intresting role in the future. Before knowing what it is we can't lump it together with the first job, it could be something completely different.
Similarly the 2nd job has already hinted that the sister will play a role. She has been decided to be a part of the story from the beginning since we see her mention in the character directory from the introduction of the 2nd job.

And lastly about Ellie, i am sorry i still don't see any possible route there with teh dance class. Unless you state what exactly can be done, i don't think i will understand. So let's forget about it.

 

[palmtrees89]

yes.or maybe another of the Coworkers they are all women .but it was cut like the coach Sophie.

Like Dr.Fapalot said, L&P made it clear that Liam won't cheat on Sophia, so there's really nothing to cut out. But let's pretend for a second that this route was actually a thing, progressing it would require the game to progress, which it barely does. So even if there was a Liam cheating route, there'd likely be little to zero content within the next 10-20 years. Same thing applies to several other routes, or certain characters to be more precise. Can't expect much progress on any route when a single PD takes up to 2 years of development time.

Coach Sophia is a planned DLC which might be released in 40 years, unlike Liam's non-existing cheating route.

Also, I personally think that AWAM would be much less exciting if Liam were to cheat on Sophia. It would take away from Sophia's corruption imo. Kinda like.."who cares, both of them are doing it anyway.". If that makes sense.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Liam works in the modeling business, if he cheated with models, he would have done it much earlier. And so he is a devoted husband and father)

That is possibly true, but some readers are missing the point that Sophia and Patricia saw and had a conversation with Liam, and Liam left the store with the boss' daughter inside. So there could be another scene where Sophia might see them together and assume that Liam is possibly cheating on her because he works late.

If you combine that thought with the sexual frustration that is building up, with the thought of cheating, She is a ticking time bomb that will go off at any second. second = about 10 to 15 years.

 

[Vigeous]

If you're playing the sex-ed storyline because you like little boys and that's your fantasy, do that. Just don't pretend that it's a reasonable decision for Sophia to make.

Well Sophia has a caring side and from the start of the kids branch we saw how much she was shocked to know that such kids don't know what sex is, she felt sorry for them and was pondering on the idea of helping them it took her a lot of courage to go to their mother to propose the idea of teaching them sex-ed, but after that she saw that the boys curiosity raised and their questions were becoming more and more daring. It was hard for her to explain things without going the extra mile. Your view is correct if we are talking about an early Sophia which inhibitions are low the exact same thing happened with Sam and nobody was talking how that scene was daring knowing that Liam was coming home at any time it's just that Sophia is more daring now than before.

 

[FullyAnimated]

The only plausible storyline in the game that sets Sophia up for infidelity is the one with the swinging proposal from the engaged couple. If Liam wants to swing, and all indications are he does, and Sophia doesn't; that provides her with a motive.

Especially since Liam is often too busy or tired to have sex and when he is available, his performance leaves Sophia unsatisfied.

This disagreement could result in a big fight between them. And, who knows?, maybe separation - temporary or permanent.

All the other storylines rely on porn logic.

 

[Sadowdark]

I completely agree with you. I think this is one of the most interesting points in the upcoming event. It could be a pivotal moment for the story if Sophia, despite her intentions to draw the line, give in once again and this time she becomes more active role in the scene. That would the closest she goes to cheating to this point.

As you said, so far she has been "passive" in most of the scenes, even when she gave in she rarely went further taking some initiative. And even with the apostles it was still in the range of the sex-ed, she didn't act driven by sexual desire or anything.
I think the only instances where she took an unsolicited initiative is when she teased the boys at breakfast and Sam during the basketball break. I guess we can also count spying on Nathalie even though there was not much interaction there.

Chronologically, I think the situations where she took **some kind of initiative** during the interaction with other characters are

Day 4 - First time spying on Nathalie but not much interaction.
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Day 16 - Teasing Sam and Dylan at breakfast. There she took the initiative without even being solicited
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Day 16 - Showing the areolas to Sam. She kinda took the initiative even thought it was more another take of the sex-ed cliché
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Day 16 - Teasing sam when he came inside the house during the basketball match. Again, without being put in the situation it was all her initiative
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Day 16 - Flirting with Morello at the casino. Nothing much happening but she openly flirt back.
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Day 17 - Spying on Nathalie the second time, again not much of interaction though.
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Day 17 - Asking Zac to help with the lotion, but there was no ulterior motive there.
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Day 18 - After being dragged in the erotic game by Ellie and Julia she took the initiative to bare Julia's breasts
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Day 19 - Giving a bonus to Larry at the end showing her panties. Although she was kind of "forced" to interact with Larry and satisfy his demands, this last part it's probably the very first time Sophia took an initiative with another character going beyond some innocent teasing and flirting
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Day 19 - Playing with Patricia while dancing. This is maybe a bit of a stretch as she just doubling down the game started by Patricia.
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Day 19 - Giving in during the kiss with Sam, she becomes more involved in the kiss and she embraces Sam. Again not much, but a little sign that she wanted to give in and she is not just passive at that moment.
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I think Sophia is not fully at this stage yet to initiate things herself is too early and what you presented here is just a small start.
In the last one, I disagree. Sophia is drunk and does not control herself. If she wasn't drunk, it wouldn't have happened.

 

[Bishop Robert]

To this day I don't understand what the fuss is about whenever the writing for this PORN GAME becomes less realistic.

Sure, I'd likely agree with those who say Sophia in the events with the three padawans is a bit unlike her but in those moments, I ask myself something along the lines of "Do I really want the slow paced to hit here too?".

 

[armion82]

Liam's part was cut from the game? I do not understand what you are saying here.

He is probably talking about the idea that we can play some parts of the game as Liam.
But that was a really old idea,like 4 years old.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

He is probably talking about the idea that we can play some parts of the game as Liam.
But that was a really old idea,like 4 years old.

I think they were very brief POV parts like looking at Cathy's breast during the wedding dress fitting. And even in those POV scenes, I think there wouldn't be an option to allow him to cheat.

 

[Bishop Robert]

He is probably talking about the idea that we can play some parts of the game as Liam.
But that was a really old idea,like 4 years old.

If development speed was better, I wouldn't mind this but as things are the way they, are I hope not.

 

[FullyAnimated]

I ask myself something along the lines of "Do I really want the slow paced to hit here too?".

It's not about pacing. It's about satisfaction. And plausibility - for some of us.

Game of Thrones is a prime example. 7 seasons of pretty well universally praised content. Then the execution of the final season ruined the experience of the show for many.

The show delivered what everyone was wanting but the execution tainted the delivery.

As for this game, yeah many will be satisfied with just getting the content they want, but how satisfying will it really be? For some, the content is all they care about but after spending several years with a character, a porn game logic payoff will feel hollow to me.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Game of Thrones is a prime example. 7 seasons of pretty well universally praised content. Then the execution of the final season ruined the experience of the show for many.
hollow to me.

More like 3 seasons and 9/10 of Season 4 (Because of Tyrion being ruined).

But with the rest of what you said, do you really want this to drag out then (with the updates coming out with it being one event each) you have updates that are just talking?

 

[Sadowdark]

Liam has gone to work and is yet to be back in the game. When he wanted to get back into the L&P game, he had additional work for Liam, replying to patron posts and responding to this day. When he's done, maybe L&P will let him join the game and his beloved Sophia.

 

[ijustwannaCNM]

Will Sophia be penetrated in next update? Or it will be oral sex or something else. Any predictions?

 

[meduusa]

Will Sophia be penetrated in next update? Or it will be oral sex or something else. Any predictions?

My prediction is that she will not be penetrated. As sure as the sun rising tomorow

 

[lockerxx]

There was nothing to cut. Per L&P, Liam never cheats, period. So there was no planned cheating by Liam.

L&P said Liam is not cheating sophie. not that he would´nt cheat her in the future.

 

[oblivion2047]

thank you, jeen

 

[Deleted member 3218369]

will L&P release a last spoiler?

 

[hzjujk]

The only plausible storyline in the game that sets Sophia up for infidelity is the one with the swinging proposal from the engaged couple. If Liam wants to swing, and all indications are he does, and Sophia doesn't; that provides her with a motive.

Especially since Liam is often too busy or tired to have sex and when he is available, his performance leaves Sophia unsatisfied.

This disagreement could result in a big fight between them. And, who knows?, maybe separation - temporary or permanent.

All the other storylines rely on porn logic.

Sophia will want to go further than Liam on this swinging path at some point. Her husband will feel like he is losing control and will ask or push Sophia to go back to conventional cohabitation in a marriage. Sophia, the player, will have the choice to decide whether or not to keep the marriage.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The only plausible storyline in the game that sets Sophia up for infidelity is the one with the swinging proposal from the engaged couple. If Liam wants to swing, and all indications are he does, and Sophia doesn't; that provides her with a motive.

Especially since Liam is often too busy or tired to have sex and when he is available, his performance leaves Sophia unsatisfied.

This disagreement could result in a big fight between them. And, who knows?, maybe separation - temporary or permanent.

All the other storylines rely on porn logic.

I think one of the ways L&P could bump Sophia into taking a more active role with other hetero and lesbian partners is using the swinger event as a catalyst.

Liam is usually too tired to have sex (or he has work or fishing trips or sports that are more important/come first).

I think that the way Liam behaves at the swinger event could be one of the decision points for Sophia, in terms of how active/aggressive she decides to act in the aftermath of this event.

If Sophia is tentative with Andy (or Andy is nervous and he and Sophia do a lot of gentle cuddling/light foreplay before the main event that ends too quickly for Andy), while Liam takes Cathy to pound town and really dominates her, Sophia is going to notice how much more enthusiastic Liam is with Cathy versus his wife.

I believe that all the GW sex has been one Liam orgasm then he is done. I don't recall Sophia ever getting multiple orgasms from a GW encounter.

Let's start with an enthusiastic Cathy who give Liam oral and swallows, before Liam returns the oral favor and fingering, giving Cathy multiple orgasms, followed by some very aggressive fucking in multiple positions where Cathy and Liam are driving each other on with dirty talk before Cathy insists that Liam finish inside her and Liam very aggressively gives her what she asks for.

Liam already had the chance to peek at Cathy while she tried on several wedding dresses. Cathy even insisted that Liam stay during the entire fitting, over the objections of her sister Olivia and Liam's uncertainty about staying.







If L&P was to put in a one-week time skip here, he could add in narrative showing how things have not gotten better between Liam and Sophia, for ex.:

How busy Liam has been since the weekend when Sophia and Liam got together with Andy and Cathy that he has not made any intimate time for Sophia.

Sophia has tried to talk to Liam about putting some spice into their sex lives and he is too tired/too busy to talk with her/hear her.

Liam has to take a trip with the boss and several of his daughters to see a fashion show in another country at the end of the week with no intimacy, so Sophia has no sign of renewed intimate time with her husband for the upcoming week.

This would all help to build up some internal pressure on Sophia to pay attention and reward those people who show an interest in her, particularly Ellie/Dylan/Sam/Patricia/Nathalie.

I think that the positive responses she received from those partners would, internally, make her feel justified to share/continue to share more than she would have a month ago, after all - it's not like Liam can be bothered ...