phill_leotardo

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Thank you for sharing, there are somethings i wanna discuss with you.
1. Do you have experience of programming? Is it easy to fix erroneous renders?
2. I dont disagree with you on the part this project takes so much time. But do you agree with me the premise of this project is always its meticulous details?
3. The remaster of a game never sells like a hot cake like the original. Gaming market proves that.
I worked with a lot of projects that involves coding (Mobile, ML, Web, IoT) but never in adult games. The render handling part from what I can tell is done via graphical tools and depends a lot on the skills and experience on the person handling them. Answering all the other your questions: I am pretty sure after 6 years he should be able to choose what's more important to have an update ready. Im not saying he should half ass it.

The problem with this guy is that he claims his game to be an 'erotic', sensual novel. Basically, he finds all adjectives to justify the lack of sexual content (when comparing the time this game has been under development). Although, the game has routes since the early stages that contradicts those explanation, such are the routes with the sexual education, the janitor, the blackmail by the teenagers, routes that are specific to very hardcore porn. Therefore, the game contradicts his own words.

So, assuming he really intends to do an under the radar incest game with high quality, what exactly is high quality? The renders? The story? the sex scenes? the animations? Look, I already said this before, you don't see italians being portrayed as they are, he has no knowledge of how the mafia really works. He literally spent money buying gun 3D models, so a lot of italian guys can show heavy weapons to scare off little kids and small time thugs. If you have any kind of mafia movie knowledge, you know that's not how it works, so you can't say he's looking for realism in the story at least, so we have another contradiction here.

As you see above, perfection doesn't exist and is subjective. Whenever someone says they want to do something perfect is just an excuse to be slow and late, and it is exactly what is going on here. When you ask "But do you agree with me the premise of this project is always its meticulous details?" what details to refer to? If we nitpick more stuff around this game, we'll find a lot of flaws and mistakes. This game does have a very good visual, camera angle, filters and models. But, let's go back to the fabric touching scene, is that really perfection? You may be tempted to argue slow burn, but it isn't.

At this point of the thinking, we can imagine a X and Y graph with a curve where content is X and time is Y. At the middle point of the curve is where he needs to be, beyond that, more updates like this will happen, where time increases and content decreases, therefore turning into an increasing LINE.

As for your third point, I don't really feel you absorbed the entire point. The point being is that everyone releases 1.0a, 1.1b, 1.3c and so forth to fix small mistakes like that, therefore he has many ways to deal with them other spending a massive amount of time to fix them. Even then, you have that game Dreams of Desire that is also about incest, where it didn't even have animations, only two years after the game was completed the developer decided to remaster the game with animations. Take this game for example, you have part 1 where he was learning how to develop basically, now part 2 you have animations too. It looks positive to see that he's improving, but at the same time it shows quality inconsistency, because the simple fact he improved implies quality change, so how much details was there previously?
 

steelmonkey76

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2025 is about the time we will see Sophia shag anyone. Lucky there were a few perverts with the knowledge to create the fan made games to keep us entertained. It's got great graphics and story is good but fark the women need a good shafting and not by the two lame arse husbands. Oh and Sophia should corrupt the shit out of the home school church freak.....
 

PRTech

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2025 is about the time we will see Sophia shag anyone. Lucky there were a few perverts with the knowledge to create the fan made games to keep us entertained. It's got great graphics and story is good but fark the women need a good shafting and not by the two lame arse husbands. Oh and Sophia should corrupt the shit out of the home school church freak.....
Doubt it. This game came out late 2017 andf it took 5 years to have Sophia to have a kissing and breast kissed by a male. It will take another 5 years for a hand job and maybe a blowjob.
 

SubtleHustle

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This update may disappoint some, but it demonstrates how Dylan will put her to the test in the next update

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I guess I could unpack the script file for day20 again and find out. But maybe you know off-hand. Do any of those Dylan inner-monologue lines have a condition associated with them? For example do these lines happen on the condition of whether he points out the wardrobe malfunction or not?
 
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hzjujk

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I just came here to criticise the guy again. Although, this time I will be more thoughtful. See, the problem with this game is clearly the developer, he has no plan to start a new game, or do another story or whatever. He plans to do the same for years. I did say a while back we were hitting 6 years on this game and we still would hurt our expectations. Thus, after all these years I can say it accurately what are the problems with this guy.


He clearly has low software engineering background, little to none, might I add. He knows programming, but doesn't know what a project is. I will give you an example of an amateur mistake he did.

Look at this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-180-lust-passion.5944/post-7565075. He naively came into this thread arguing with the arrogance of a rockstar or an influencer on how to do Image Processing. When you're developing a product small stuff like table legs opacity shouldn't be in the way, because you can correct with a fix right after releasing the update. Therefore, why is he so devoted to make good pictures of a game instead of worrying about productivity? This is very dumb if you ask me.

It seems to me he doesn't have maturity to understand that perfectionism doesn't really exist in a project. What matters is what your 'client' the patrons want. He can fastforward this by leaving out small details and just pushing up the updates with less quality and he'll be a lot more popular and when he's done with the game he can just remaster it, since he loves wasting time and people will still pay him all the same. Additionally, from what I can tell only around 10 or 20% of his patrons would cry over small details being missed, but hell, if the developer took a shit on their mouth, they would still eat it like it was chocolate. He should take advantage of this, and just hurry up.

I mean, we just went through a world epidemic and he lost a huge change to boost his patronage, because he isn't being smart with his own project. It really is a disadvantage to split a game into 2 parts when the first barely had any hit expectations in terms of sexual content. Why start a chapter 2 if he's struggling with his own development structure?

In my opinion, he could just rush the game from this point and forward since he claims to have already written the game plot and fine-tune it along the way and release an update remastering it after he's done. He wastes way to much time over silly stuff that 90% of people really aren't interested. It's almost as his ego breaks easily on the smallest criticism.
I am one of those 10% who are interested in the "silly stuff" the developer invests his time in. I also have no interest in replaying a game if it is eventually re-released in a better quality. Then I know the story and I know the sex scenes and then it just bores me. I care about the quality of the pictures and I'm also satisfied that he tells the story the way L&P does it, i.e. with all the (totally unnecessary?!) branching and detours.
If I want to play a Meet and Fuck game then I will find enough choice in this forum and I think you should look there for the game you like better.
Because one thing is guaranteed not to happen. That we get faster updates. I can't say if it's because L&P is disorganized or just works 2 hours a day or it still can't handle its software tools properly after 6 years.
I'm still here though, just because of what I said above!
 

vovalenin1917

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Are there sites where you can download this game in Russian and so that it is automatically saved in the final 1 part of the working one, do not manually put it in a folder to play part 2? I found sites where it works automatically, but the game is always in English only. where then can you download it in Russian from the automatic settings of the final part 1 of the game ?! :unsure: :cry::cry::unsure:
hi. This game is in Russian on the website . I don't know about combining parts 1 and 2, but it's actually not a complicated procedure. If you have several branches of the game, then you will have to go through the transition procedure from part 1 to the second for all branches of the game. I apologize in advance if it is impossible to publish links to other sites, I just did not study the rules of the site to such an extent.
 

steelmonkey76

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I guess I could unpack the script file for day20 again and find out. But maybe you know off-hand. Do any of those Dylan inner-monologue lines have a condition associated with them? For example do these lines happen on the condition of whether he points out the wardrobe malfunction or not?
Nah bugger that little cuck, he set her up in that school thing. All he should get is corner watching Sam bend her over.
 

peas

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There is an idea for a second game sequel right there. The three shota kids use what Sophia has taught them to corrupt and seduce their mom and her uptight friends. Become a inside the church sex gang.
 

Piat

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I just came here to criticise the guy again. Although, this time I will be more thoughtful. See, the problem with this game is clearly the developer, he has no plan to start a new game, or do another story or whatever. He plans to do the same for years. I did say a while back we were hitting 6 years on this game and we still would hurt our expectations. Thus, after all these years I can say it accurately what are the problems with this guy.


He clearly has low software engineering background, little to none, might I add. He knows programming, but doesn't know what a project is. I will give you an example of an amateur mistake he did.

Look at this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-180-lust-passion.5944/post-7565075. He naively came into this thread arguing with the arrogance of a rockstar or an influencer on how to do Image Processing. When you're developing a product small stuff like table legs opacity shouldn't be in the way, because you can correct with a fix right after releasing the update. Therefore, why is he so devoted to make good pictures of a game instead of worrying about productivity? This is very dumb if you ask me.

It seems to me he doesn't have maturity to understand that perfectionism doesn't really exist in a project. What matters is what your 'client' the patrons want. He can fastforward this by leaving out small details and just pushing up the updates with less quality and he'll be a lot more popular and when he's done with the game he can just remaster it, since he loves wasting time and people will still pay him all the same. Additionally, from what I can tell only around 10 or 20% of his patrons would cry over small details being missed, but hell, if the developer took a shit on their mouth, they would still eat it like it was chocolate. He should take advantage of this, and just hurry up.

I mean, we just went through a world epidemic and he lost a huge change to boost his patronage, because he isn't being smart with his own project. It really is a disadvantage to split a game into 2 parts when the first barely had any hit expectations in terms of sexual content. Why start a chapter 2 if he's struggling with his own development structure?

In my opinion, he could just rush the game from this point and forward since he claims to have already written the game plot and fine-tune it along the way and release an update remastering it after he's done. He wastes way to much time over silly stuff that 90% of people really aren't interested. It's almost as his ego breaks easily on the smallest criticism.
Yes, this is dev an entitled moron. 6 years and really nothing worth playing for a porn game. Only zealots could like this shit.
 
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