NykWolf

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And we know that Ellie will also become an MC, which suggests that Ellie's solo story is also possible.
Where you hear that? Because that's sound like pretty good joke. I love Ellie and Waiting for her and her events so long.. And I really believe after messages from LP, that this not gonna happen. Dylan is MC not Ellie If there are change that Ellie become MC so where are scenes with her? Nowhere. Last big good event with her was 4 years ago now will be one (Where is Dylan with Ellie I'm not take it like Ellie event because Dylan do the choices) event with her next year and then again and again Dylan and Dylan and Dylan. Then Farm and some scenes with Patricia.. So next events with Ellie could be again in 4 years probably.. And in this time LP and his "Votes for Dylan" change the plan so... Where? Where you hear that Ellie become another MC?
 
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Where you hear that? Because that's sound like pretty good joke. I love Ellie and Waiting for her and her events so long.. And I really believe after messages from LP, that this not gonna happen. Dylan is MC not Ellie If there are change that Ellie become MC so where are scenes with her? Nowhere. Last big good event with her was 4 years ago now will be one (Where is Dylan with Ellie I'm not take it like Ellie event because Dylan do the choices) event with her next year and then again and again Dylan and Dylan and Dylan. Then Farm and some scenes with Patricia.. So next events with Ellie could be again in 4 years probably.. And in this time LP and his "Votes for Dylan" change the plan so... Where? Where you hear that Ellie become another MC?
This was a fairly recent developer response, so look it up yourself.

Dylan is revealed to be the MC long before he can choose whether to go to Christine's party or go on a date with Sophia.

Until then, Dylan also didn't appear in every update and he couldn't choose anything.
 
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armion82

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Hi guys, I have 2 questions:

1. Do you think there is any chance that developers can accelerate the process of publishing new updates?

2. How many updates do we have to wait for the next Sam's event?
1.There is a chance(pretty damn big) to slow down even firther.
2.Tricky question.
First we have no idea if the dev won't add additional scenes for PD13.
Second-what you count as event?
Next 2 scenes with Sam will be small and will be only piano lessons.
If you count them and 0.195 will be the last update for PD13,next Sam event will be probably together with the Ellie small event at the beginning of PD14.
Otherwise PD17 after 20+ updates
 

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That would be nice. And this time she won’t get pissed at Dylan for being handsy. Dylan should be grabbing more than just her tits. And there is no reason why she doesn’t get completely naked this time…except for l&p milking
oh, dreams
photoshoot is one of the hottest scenes
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2cents. Playable day 14 afternoon is a whole event of sophie and dylan. I know it's the soccer game but there has to be more than "hey that kissing stuff wont happen again" talk. I believe there are 2 Sophie/Dylan events that day. Afternoon and evening before the museum boys.

And according to LP end of day14 is supposed to be "sexually exciting" or whatever word she used. Since Payricia is back for this event, I am hoping it sets up the sisters for the ranch event the next day.

I agree the dylan/sophie afternoon event is after either the old men or the 3 boys. I cant imagine Sophie will have much moral high ground after watching them do their homework!!

But by the time these events come out I will probably be retired and to old to get it up.
 

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2cents. Playable day 14 afternoon is a whole event of sophie and dylan. I know it's the soccer game but there has to be more than "hey that kissing stuff wont happen again" talk. I believe there are 2 Sophie/Dylan events that day. Afternoon and evening before the museum boys.

And according to LP end of day14 is supposed to be "sexually exciting" or whatever word she used. Since Payricia is back for this event, I am hoping it sets up the sisters for the ranch event the next day.

I agree the dylan/sophie afternoon event is after either the old men or the 3 boys. I cant imagine Sophie will have much moral high ground after watching them do their homework!!

But by the time these events come out I will probably be retired and to old to get it up.
3 Sophia/Dylan events, not 2.
 

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It was only my 2cents worth. 3 events was to costly.
Considering that Dylan events are more often than not two or three times the size of others, twice is too "costly". But then, Sophia's inner monologue about how pursuing anything with Dylan is wrong on so many levels is one of the reasons I find the route so boring.

But that's irrelevant. 3 Sophia/Dylan events is what we're getting
 

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Dylan is revealed to be the MC
Two things should, by now, have happened concerning Dylan, whether or not you think he's the hero you want to be, or that he's been allowed to ruin what was a great game. First there should be a "male protagonist" tag, which should have happened years ago. Secondly, he should'nt be included in the popularity polls, as his status is theoretically the same as Sophia's.

I have ideas on why these things havn't happened but it's just guesswork & "It's his game & he can do what he likes," so I won't bother speculating.
 
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Two things should, by now, have happened concerning Dylan, whether or not you think he's the hero you want to be, or that he's been allowed to ruin what was a great game. First there should be a "male protagonist" tag, which should have happened years ago. Secondly, he should'nt be included in the popularity polls, as his status is theoretically the same as Sophia's.

I have ideas on why these things havn't happened but it's just guesswork & "It's his game & he can do what he likes," so I won't bother speculating.
Why do you think this has happened ?
 

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Why do you think this has happened ?
So you want me to speculate. I will state the 2 simplest ideas I have on the subject & avoid any pseudo-psycho babble. My opinions are not unreservedly popular.

First the current mission statement/promo blurb does a good job of selling AWAM, particularly for an audience used to playing 3D games & possibly looking for more quality, sophistication, realism, class etc. Playing from the perspective of a female MC is also a good selling point, it gets out of the rut & appears to hint at some limiting of the misogyny visible in many porn games. This blurb was the truth when it came to most of Part One. Replacing it with the truth that is Part Two, i.e. 'This is a slow-moving story with a male MC, about schoolboy wish fulfilment, with the focus on Mother/Son incest,' might not have the same selling power. Lack of a male protagonist tag is thus consistent with the statement & a true reflection of how things used to be.

L&P has chosen to replace a mature, educated, experienced, gorgeous, sexy, elegant, accomplished career woman, who's also raised a family, with a woman with the mind of a 16 year-old bimbo, with no apparent appreciable adult persona or experience & the figure of a top-heavy blow-up doll. Then he's replaced that sad figure with a teenaged virgin schoolboy, who, nevertheless, has certain inexplicable super powers. This information, up front, wouldn't be such a good look or hook.

Secondly, continuing to list Dylan in the popularity polls, despite his lead status, helps to maintain the illusion of the mission statement, while predictably, (given what appears to be the age range of many paying Patrons), confirming his popularity to all concerned & justifying his ever growing presence. Inconsistency in the treatment of the 'supposed' 2 MCs, is down to, "it's his game, so if you don't like what he does, shut up & sod off," as the Dev's sycophants like to say in many & varied ways.
 

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Two things should, by now, have happened concerning Dylan, whether or not you think he's the hero you want to be, or that he's been allowed to ruin what was a great game. First there should be a "male protagonist" tag, which should have happened years ago. Secondly, he should'nt be included in the popularity polls, as his status is theoretically the same as Sophia's.

I have ideas on why these things havn't happened but it's just guesswork & "It's his game & he can do what he likes," so I won't bother speculating.
I think you can guess just by looking at the “spanking” tag.

This developer is lazy and irresponsible.

Before playing a game, people look at the game's introduction and tags.
And by looking at the introduction and tags, one guesses the content of the game and gets excited or disappointed.

The only "spanking" in this game is when Sophia and Patricia are jogging and Patricia touches Sophia's butt.
It's different from what ordinary people expect.

exhibitionism: Were there any scenes that could be described as exhibitionism?
groping: I know there was a lot of touching, but it wasn't like in regular porn.
incest : I know some people say that kissing is also incest.
I do not recognize that anything other than penetrative sex is incest.
(This may be a cultural difference, but to me, it's like when someone threatens another person with a gun, I can say "there was a threat or intent to kill," but I can't say "he committed murder.")
voyeurism: Was there a case of voyeurism?
If a child spies on his mother or his mother's friend in a flashback scene, can it be called voyeurism?

Someone might want to argue that.

But whether it meets the standards of regular porn or people who expect something from porn is another matter.

I think this developer is using this for business reasons.
 
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That's right, at the end of the Sophia/Dylan scene we see a Sophia who is consumed by guilt, shame and regret and it seems that in some images she can no longer think clearly.
Now the next day we not only have a new Dylan event but before that (if nothing changes!!!!!) an Elli event and the two part-time jobs. L&P has always tried to tell the routes in such a way that you get the impression that there are no connections between them, but the chronological order of the individual events still remains a big problem here.
Sophia can't, for example, make the old men cum and have a serious conversation with her son about morals and decency at the subsequent event with Dylan.
Even with this event-based narrative, which Talcum Powder has already complained about again in his post, this will create a break, a stumbling block, that many people cannot ignore, people for whom the story is just as important as those in it (still does not) contain explicit sex scenes (penetration scenes).

So I asked L&P exactly that! As is often the case, his answer was open to wide interpretation. "Actually, the guilty conscience is usually even greater the next morning than the evening before (grin)..."

This answer doesn't reveal anything about the rest of the story, but it shows, at least to me, that L&P is aware of the "problem" at this point and that he didn't let the Dylan/Sophia event end like this without having an "exit strategy" in mind .

As for your suggestion of solving this problem with a conversation between Sophia and Dylan, I don't think that will be effective. On the one hand, this conversation can only end in such a way that Sophia swears to Dylan that what happened last evening must never happen again. And it won't lessen their guilt and regret.

So my solution would be to have a quick chat with Liam in the morning. This time Sophia wakes up with Liam. If nothing happened, Liam wishes Sophia a nice day and goes to work. But if Sophia was sitting in front of the TV the night before, Liam will mention that he woke up briefly during the night but didn't find Sophia in bed yet. Sophia can now either tell him, depending on Dylan's decision the night before, that she watched TV or that she went out to dinner with Dylan. Dylan saw her sitting in front of the TV and decided not to go to the party but to cheer up his mother.
If you let Liam react the way he did in the bathroom the day before, namely by mocking his son for preferring to go out with his mother than meet a girl his own age at a party, Sophia would react quite angrily and this would be one To counterbalance their shame/guilt/remorse.

The effort for this short event would be limited, just a few pictures and a little text.
But while it's just a speculation how this could be solved, there are certainly better ones. And since I've been wrong so often in my previous speculations, I wouldn't take myself too seriously.
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That's right, at the end of the Sophia/Dylan scene we see a Sophia who is consumed by guilt, shame and regret and it seems that in some images she can no longer think clearly.
Now the next day we not only have a new Dylan event but before that (if nothing changes!!!!!) an Elli event and the two part-time jobs. L&P has always tried to tell the routes in such a way that you get the impression that there are no connections between them, but the chronological order of the individual events still remains a big problem here.
Sophia can't, for example, make the old men cum and have a serious conversation with her son about morals and decency at the subsequent event with Dylan.
Even with this event-based narrative, which Talcum Powder has already complained about again in his post, this will create a break, a stumbling block, that many people cannot ignore, people for whom the story is just as important as those in it (still does not) contain explicit sex scenes (penetration scenes). It's a writing style that is hard to master where the chronological order is shuffled with the events. Often you see an "outcome" at the very beginning and then the story goes back in time. The difficulty of pulling that off is the connecting threads that make sense to the audience. Still there within the story you have to stack the important events in the correct order-- But there is a possibility where the audience is left hanging. Just off the top of my head there are to this date 3 critical events that has occurred that shape both Sophia's character and the routes. It seems weak to bring up 'Girls Night out' where Patrica, Ellie, and Sophia gone out dancing... Sam and Sophia 'The Talk' where Sophia becomes Sam's "secret girlfriend"... and 'Date the last release of Dylan and Sophia.:
First, 'Girls Night Out' you have Sophia starting to make out with Tyler. At first it seems pretty low hanging fruit as far as character development one would think. But look at the particulars. Sophia wasn't drunk, no blaming the alcohol there... Sophia let a complete stranger get further with her then anyone else has in touching her. That is also was in front of her daughter too--begs the question of what if Patrica didn't interrupt just how far things would have gotten with Tyler.

Second, 'The Talk' again no alcohol and you have Sophia taking a full and active part in making out with Sam, taking off her top, allowing Sam to remove her panties...etc.... What would the likelihood of other events occurring had Sophia and Sam been alone in the house and had Sam started to either go down on Sophia or fingered her?

Third, 'Date Night' where it brought to Sophia the very reality of actually crossing a redline with Dylan. I can see why Dylan wasn't able to get further then he did as the story played out. But imagine instead of playing Sophia's breast he had focused on kissing and nibbling Sophia's neck while grinding his groin against Sophia's?


So I asked L&P exactly that! As is often the case, his answer was open to wide interpretation. "Actually, the guilty conscience is usually even greater the next morning than the evening before (grin)..." Well if you talk directly with L&P, let them know if ever they are in my part of the woods, the Beer and Pizza is on me...LOL! Seriously though, there are times I'd like to reach out and offer some advice and general ideas after asking first if that would be acceptable... It's totally like me to want to interject when watching others play Chess to point out mistakes...fortunately, impulse control is a stronger suit of mine.

This answer doesn't reveal anything about the rest of the story, but it shows, at least to me, that L&P is aware of the "problem" at this point and that he didn't let the Dylan/Sophia event end like this without having an "exit strategy" in mind. I am hopeful that is the case. My only regret is that I know that its extra work to fill in the hole.

As for your suggestion of solving this problem with a conversation between Sophia and Dylan, I don't think that will be effective. On the one hand, this conversation can only end in such a way that Sophia swears to Dylan that what happened last evening must never happen again. And it won't lessen their guilt and regret. ....and why I suggested Dylan make a bold move to thwart the talk. I was thinking Dylan respond more like a lover then a cowed son. But it maybe a good plot device to promise that it will never happen again only later on to have a change of mind and Sophia being the aggressor (later on in the story).

So my solution would be to have a quick chat with Liam in the morning. This time Sophia wakes up with Liam. If nothing happened, Liam wishes Sophia a nice day and goes to work. But if Sophia was sitting in front of the TV the night before, Liam will mention that he woke up briefly during the night but didn't find Sophia in bed yet. Sophia can now either tell him, depending on Dylan's decision the night before, that she watched TV or that she went out to dinner with Dylan. Dylan saw her sitting in front of the TV and decided not to go to the party but to cheer up his mother.
If you let Liam react the way he did in the bathroom the day before, namely by mocking his son for preferring to go out with his mother than meet a girl his own age at a party, Sophia would react quite angrily and this would be one To counterbalance their shame/guilt/remorse. That's a good twist and makes whatever happens later on being Liam's fault he had it coming...lol! However, that approach has its own pitfalls. That being that Sophia needs an excuse and maybe a reason for doing what she does. But then there after Sophia will always need an excuse to justify x, y, and z (mostly). So, does the story need a MC that has some justification for her actions (if Sophia is to hookup with anyone beyond Sam & Dylan, how is the Developer doing to provide the justifications for the Myer's boys or Old men or Patricia or...etc...), or does the story need a MC that comes to the conclusion she is human and has needs that are not being met. The developer has a great job in presenting Sophia as socially acceptable adult conforming to societal norms despite her own desires.

The effort for this short event would be limited, just a few pictures and a little text.
But while it's just a speculation how this could be solved, there are certainly better ones. And since I've been wrong so often in my previous speculations, I wouldn't take myself too seriously. If you do communicate with L&P and they are keeping their cards close to the chest, and you have no solid reads actually that is in a good position to be...because there are surprises left. Never could figure out why many kids tried to learn what was in their Christmas presents before Christmas... a bit anticlimactic
 
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