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linkop

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yes we don't have to play the game, but as a member of patreon, I can only say that it's disappointing this game we love
 

XaGnard

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Every person is an expert in something. If there are areas where the producer is weak (and there are) then he needs to build a team. Even if he puts an advertisement, there will be a lot of people applying immediately. I think L&P is one of the best people in the market for game design. As for your point; I am not a good game designer but I can say that I am an expert in planning and scripting. But it's useless if you can't translate it into a game with code. If there are a few people who are good at designing games and writing code, including you, contact me and let's make a really good game.
I don't think I would even come close to L&P in terms of game design and rendering skills. Also, unfortunately, I don't have the time to try it out.

However, if you are seriously looking to participate in a project, there is a whole category in this forum with people who want to realize projects collectively (with very different approaches and skills). But please consider that in this case, you would be part of a team and would have to coordinate decisions. Still, it is clearly better than trying to force your ideas on L&P.
 
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I have never been so unsure of an update before. On one hand, the progression in the story was nice to watch, further developing Ellie' and Dylan's chemistry, Christine's part in the story moving along nicely, Dylan finally got a blowjob but at the same time the lack of imagination in getting rid of the boyfriends by conveniently producing basketball tickets out of Dylan's ass is mind boggling. Also what was that scene with Chuck Norris? Ellie's masturbation animation looked forced as well like she is DJing on her clit. Dialogue's looked like they were prompted by ChatGPT. Not a bad update but could have been lot better considering the fact that he took so much time for this.
 

bosspigs

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Sep 30, 2020
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This version 0.195 has a lot of bugs. I had to redo some steps to get the Christine party option because I hadn't met one of the requirements in the cafeteria scene, but for some reason Sophia's scene with Sam doesn't happen in its entirety. The option to unbutton her bra does not appear and the scene ends. Another problem I saw is with the animation sequences, in the jacuzzi scene, for example, the animations of Sophia masturbating Dylan are giving an error and don't happen. In the scene with Dylan and Amber, and the treesome in the classroom, they are also giving errors. Has anyone else experienced this?
 

farrah

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The Sophia/Ellie sex scenes might start as early as PD16, but Sophia/Dylan around PD24. But considering PD24 might be as far as two decades away the chances of abandonment before then are probably significant.
I would think that on PD16, a big turning point should happen between Ellie and Sophia, Sophia will stop seeing Ellie only as her daughter and admit to herself that she desires her sexually and she accept this desires. And this will probably be the one of the last step towards crossing the line.
And given the number of events of Dylan and Sophia (only the next day 3) and their progress, I can’t imagine what fillers will be ahead to drag this out until day 24. I believe it will be much earlier.
 

Alley_Cat

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I would think that on PD16, a big turning point should happen between Ellie and Sophia, Sophia will stop seeing Ellie only as her daughter and admit to herself that she desires her sexually and she accept this desires. And this will probably be the one of the last step towards crossing the line.
And given the number of events of Dylan and Sophia (only the next day 3) and their progress, I can’t imagine what fillers will be ahead to drag this out until day 24. I believe it will be much earlier.
I'm sure L&P will think of something to stretch the Sophia/Dylan route out. Dylan already has twice the amount of events as Ellie.
 

Mihawkgod

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Oct 5, 2019
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I don't think it's that bad yet. Dylan only has 3 events of 9 next PD, and none without Sophia.

In fact no events without Sophia for the foreseeable future.
Its not just Dylan tho, The pacing of this story is jarring and so is the pacing of the development. I am not a dev so i can't say much but looking at other devs, they are able to give solid updates in a good amount of time with decent story progression/sexual content/renders. Dev also has made dylan and neighbor's kid too important for my liking lol, i am fine with few seduction build up scenes but now we been on these 2 kids for past couple of updates as the main focus....dylan tryna seduce his mom, that kid trying sophia, dylan trying sophia and now dylans solo adventures. Again folks like it and it works but for me...i was here to watch sophia and her corruption through many different characters NOT a shota story with 2 kids and sophia being the trophy wife.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Its not just Dylan tho, The pacing of this story is jarring and so is the pacing of the development. I am not a dev so i can't say much but looking at other devs, they are able to give solid updates in a good amount of time with decent story progression/sexual content/renders. Dev also has made dylan and neighbor's kid too important for my liking lol, i am fine with few seduction build up scenes but now we been on these 2 kids for past couple of updates as the main focus....dylan tryna seduce his mom, that kid trying sophia, dylan trying sophia and now dylans solo adventures. Again folks like it and it works but for me...i was here to watch sophia and her corruption through many different characters NOT a shota story with 2 kids and sophia being the trophy wife.
A quick flick through the walkthrough will tell you that the only storylines for the Filthy route are Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia. Everyone else, from the movers, to Principal Johnson, to the subway thugs, even Bennett and Aiden, are only there to advance those four.

Only problem I have, which is now actually pretty moot, is that I haven't had an Ellie event in about 3 years. Not even briefly in the shower. All so that Dylan can have 3/4 of the events this playable day.
 
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Bibifoc

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This version 0.195 has a lot of bugs. I had to redo some steps to get the Christine party option because I hadn't met one of the requirements in the cafeteria scene, but for some reason Sophia's scene with Sam doesn't happen in its entirety. The option to unbutton her bra does not appear and the scene ends. Another problem I saw is with the animation sequences, in the jacuzzi scene, for example, the animations of Sophia masturbating Dylan are giving an error and don't happen. In the scene with Dylan and Amber, and the treesome in the classroom, they are also giving errors. Has anyone else experienced this?
At least for the animations problem you mentioned, a new version was released yesterday.
 
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Jovogler

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that's the third update that just ends at the same spot for me, just because I didn't choose Dylan? Yeah I'm out, have a good one boys, hopefully in another seven years this game will have progressed enough to actually be playable.
 

humanno21

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And whats with that unnatural curves, that are seemingly widening from release to release. Shouldn't this game be about reality?
 

fabyoxx

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It's curious how the developer says that he is going to shorten the game but he creates scenes without the main protagonist, he continues creating characters, he creates scenes that do not add anything to the main story but do extend the content that we all expect. How can we understand that he also wants to cut the parallel work scenes where it finally seems that there could be progress and once again delays the content that everyone expects from Sophia?
As always, he only seeks to extract money without thinking about how to obtain it by generating good valuable content for his fans. If he wanted, he could reduce the time of renders and updates, create a common thread as a backbone and then add content to the secondary stories, improve them, create animations or whatever he wants and I'm sure that if he took his followers into account he would have double or more income and for much longer, but the only thing he shows is being panicked in advancing the story with Sophia because he thinks that once He showed her naked or having sex, he would lose subscribers and money, big mistake, this graphic novel started very well but every day it loses its way more.

And finally, choose between going to the party with her sister and friends or going out with Sophia? really? We are all looking for a threesome and he alone complicates things.

This VN is not realistic at all
 

ihl86

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In this update, these three boyfriends knew that their girlfriends would change into pajamas, they knew that they girlfriends would be drinking, and they knew that Dylan might turn into a Casanova, but they left, leaving their girlfriends with Dylan.

These three boyfriends may have thought of Dylan as an ungainly dwarf or leprechaun.

Or maybe they were idiots who thought one ticket could get 3 people in stadium, or maybe they had the audacity to swap their girlfriends for basketball tickets.

And in fact, Dylan saw their girlfriends naked, touched their girlfriends naked bodies, and received a blow job from one of their girlfriends.

I still can't shake the suspicion that this developer has no idea about the real world.



: I am not criticizing pornography.
: I'm saying that their boyfriends' behavior makes absolutely no sense.
: It would have been better if the girls' boyfriends had not appeared from the beginning or if they had had the pajamas party together.
If I didn't know any better I would have thought L&P was a 16 year old teenager living his fantasy through how he wrote this scene. It was that badly written. Especially the first part.


In his effort to show Dylan as an alpha LP decided to show him as the deceiving and canny he actually isn’t…

LP’s complicated thinking adds up to his slow pace of production… For future events he should rethink his approach and reduce the amount of unnecessary renders in the game…

I sent him a big email regarding this update. Let’s see what he is going to say!
I totally agree, the whole alcohol buying scene was unnecessary. I would say everything with their boyfriends there as well. In what world is Dylan able to get alcohol and the boyfriends not ? It would have been better if it was just a girls party from the start and because he brought them alcohol she allowed him to stay or something. Fewer renders and better story.


And whats with that unnatural curves, that are seemingly widening from release to release. Shouldn't this game be about reality?
What unnatural curves are you talking about?
 
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