yourmomma

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Act 1 was of higher quality in the sense that L&P was able to provide content for pretty much every route due to much lower render count per event. I disagree when you say the game should revolve around Dylan/Ellie/Liam/Sophia just because it's titled "A Wife And Mother". When I started playing, I did it for Sophia's adventures outside of that. I was never a fan of the incest routes, and L&P was able to deliver content for everyone back in the day. Still somewhat slow, but atleast some progress was made.

I was interested to see where Sophia would end up with characters like the school's headmaster, janitor Clark, Bennett, the neighbors, Liam's boss, the Morellos, partying with her sister..and more. All of those routes could have eventually turned Sophia into a corrupted version of herself cheating on her husband and succumbing to San Alejo's temptations one way or another. There was zero need for Dylan/Ellie incest or whatever if you didn't want it to be part of your game.

Now, with time, L&P turned his game into an absolute dumpster fire with ever increasing renders per event, slower production in general, bigger PD's aswell as a bunch more 2nd MC Dylan events that weren't even planned in the first place. Said it before, will say it again; The easy solution is to go back to sub 100 render events, remove the fucking Dylan MC arc which is a game inside the game and should be a standalone project imo, and upping production (aka render/day count) to pre-act2 levels. That way, L&P would be able to release 1-2 PD's a year providing content for every route like he used to. But he's not doing that and so we are left with 400+ render events and at this point more than 2 years for a single PD which in return means hardly any content on any route for many years to come...or rather never as clearly the game will eventually end up being abandoned because 50 years of development left is just a ridiculous number.
I completely agree with this. The 1st act had a clear understanding the title A Wife and a Mother was about an innocent wife being tempted by outside influences. As well as even though sex wasn't involved yet the story still moved along and updates had more than one scene going on. The set up for sex to happen in Act 2 was there.

Now L&P has fallen in love with his own main character wasting everyone's time with unnecessary filler renders and dialogue to spit out only one haphazard scene per update and is gun shy about Sophia's adventurous slutty side.
A stream lined update could easily happen every two months or every few months with multiple events.

Every update now is Sophia having slutty thoughts and teasing, but not even realistic teasing anymore.

It's obvious L&P has no clue how to transition from thought provoking teasing to any meaningful tease.

The filler dialogue and renders just tells me L&P knows what his supporters want, but is going to milk it for as long as he possibly can.

I think he's afraid of ending the game, because he has no ideas for a second game and like I mentioned early, fell in love with his character.

This game would probably explode with financial backing if L&P pulled his head out of his ass.
 

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This game doesn't really have a real main story. It's more like... 3-4 "main stories" mixed together.

The home stuff. Things involving the day to day life of Sophia and her family/friends.
The Aiden stuff. Things involving Aiden and her being blackmailed by him and his gang.
The Mafia stuff. Things involving the mafia, Liam's debt etc.
The "other stuff." Mostly things that involve Ellie/Dylan as the MC, with their own LI's and routes.

And then you have various side-characters and routes that don't have much to do with any of those things. The side-jobs, the gym people etc.


To me, the main plot should've been about the Mafia. Simply because the mafia is broad enough to be able to do basically anything you'd want, but would still lead to culling a lot of excess characters/routes.

For example, get rid of Aiden and his gang, replace them with the Mafia. The dynamic would basically be the same, but now Sophia would actually have a compelling reason to do things instead of being bullied by a highschool thug that she could, in theory, have expelled anytime she wanted. The Mafia would have real leverage over her. The Mafia could want, say, Ellie to do things too. This would've allowed Sophia to have some agency, will she get her daughter involved, or will she try to protect her? Put Dylan in, and Sophia could do the same for him. If Sophia doesn't do X, Dylan is going to get beatdown. Even somebody like Sam, him being a white-knight savior would actually make sense.

Then you'd rid of all the characters/routes that aren't connected together. And that would include both Ellie and Dylan's specific routes/LI's, maybe the school etc. Or hell, if you don't want Aiden to be killed off too, make him Morello's son who watches Sophia in class for him.
This really would make more sense especially Aiden being Morello's son. Then the blackmail route would be Sophia paying off Liam's debts and Aiden would be keeping an eye on her at school and perhaps Morello gives him permission to play around with her.
 
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This game doesn't really have a real main story. It's more like... 3-4 "main stories" mixed together.

The home stuff. Things involving the day to day life of Sophia and her family/friends.
The Aiden stuff. Things involving Aiden and her being blackmailed by him and his gang.
The Mafia stuff. Things involving the mafia, Liam's debt etc.
The "other stuff." Mostly things that involve Ellie/Dylan as the MC, with their own LI's and routes.

And then you have various side-characters and routes that don't have much to do with any of those things. The side-jobs, the gym people etc.


To me, the main plot should've been about the Mafia. Simply because the mafia is broad enough to be able to do basically anything you'd want, but would still lead to culling a lot of excess characters/routes.

For example, get rid of Aiden and his gang, replace them with the Mafia. The dynamic would basically be the same, but now Sophia would actually have a compelling reason to do things instead of being bullied by a highschool thug that she could, in theory, have expelled anytime she wanted. The Mafia would have real leverage over her. The Mafia could want, say, Ellie to do things too. This would've allowed Sophia to have some agency, will she get her daughter involved, or will she try to protect her? Put Dylan in, and Sophia could do the same for him. If Sophia doesn't do X, Dylan is going to get beatdown. Even somebody like Sam, him being a white-knight savior would actually make sense.

Then you'd rid of all the characters/routes that aren't connected together. And that would include both Ellie and Dylan's specific routes/LI's, maybe the school etc. Or hell, if you don't want Aiden to be killed off too, make him Morello's son who watches Sophia in class for him.
:ROFLMAO:That's why it's going to take him about 40 years to complete the game, too much stuff=10 years for each main story!
 
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Some things in life seem so obvious that it is surprising when some people nevertheless got them wrong.
You're just talking crap at this point. Get off your high horse buddy, you just aren't right. You are wrong. The rest of your post is the same nonsense you had already posted before, and I literally gave you an explanation as to why that's not true.

Jamdan's post is explaining it quite well. You could say the game has several main stories, all depending on the choices you, the player, make. Are Dylan and Ellie part of that? Sure, but you do realize that there's hardly any content with them if that's what you want? Ever tried it? Obviously not, as you are furiously fapping to the incest part that has picked up in pace ever since part02 started back in 2022 and your general tone in this thread has changed alot since then. Yeah, I wonder why.

I could keep posting paragraph after paragraph, but instead I'll just redirect you to my previous post as I've said everything already, you just choose to ignore it and keep going on with your "main story is X...hurr-durr" when it clearly isn't. This is a simple case of "we agree to disagree".
 
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View attachment 4381151

If you ask me whats my favourite scene in this VN
Its this one
This is the first VN i felt such satisfaction seeing the blackmailer got what he deserved.
One gone , now history teacher's turn
Gentleman Mafia got some style
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LOL, I can only imagine that people are now getting off on the plot because there is so fucking little porn in this game.
Imagine ending Aiden's plotline when there is already almost nothing interesting happening in this fucking game :D ... eliminating the only possibility of a gangbang (?)
 

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LOL, I can only imagine that people are now getting off on the plot because there is so fucking little porn in this game.
Imagine ending Aiden's plotline when there is already almost nothing interesting happening in this fucking game :D ... eliminating the only possibility of a gangbang (?)
Seriously. Aiden's path was the only one that moved this game along. L&P said there was not going to be a hard gangbang scene. His usage of the words hard gang bang has lead to some speculation about wtf that actually means and the difference between a hard gang bang and soft gang bang which I can only imagine is the difference between a consensual gang bang and a forced gangbang.
I swear people have forgotten this started out as a corruption game and is now a dopey romance telenova version of a vn masquerading as a corruption game.
 

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"oh really ? wow ! what a ''great'' argument you have given to refute the FACT that Milk & Passion is indeed scamming his supporters (rolls eyes*)"

Objectively, he is not scamming his supporters. This isn't up for debate, my friend. He released these last 2 updates by his own supporters demands. He's giving his financial supporters exactly what they asked for. How is that scamming? You're throwing around labels because he isn't releasing the content that YOU want, and it's OK to be disappointed, but you seem REALLY upset over this.

And waggling your finger at "people like me" is silly. We're on a pirate site, mate. I don't financially support L&P. I get everything off this website for free. I don't get overly invested in porn games... that once again, I get for free. And my advice, which has and will always work - is to move on. If people do not support a developer, they either have to change their habits or go out of business. Look at all the AAA studios losing hundreds of millions of dollars because they aren't producing the games and content that consumers want. I'm right and this as well isn't up for debate. Tata!
Releasing updates with content NOBODY wanted IS scamming ! you ''genius'', forget about me or what I want because you don't know what I or L&P's supporters want to begin with and assuming that you do , is arrogant and dumb. 3y1hde3.png
 
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LOL, I can only imagine that people are now getting off on the plot because there is so fucking little porn in this game.
Imagine ending Aiden's plotline when there is already almost nothing interesting happening in this fucking game :D ... eliminating the only possibility of a gangbang (?)
Well it is true there is less sex in this game, forget about sex, our female main character can't even have orgasm even after masterbaiting because she gets interrupted.
But then again , we have many sex games and sometimes i really enjoy flirts and teases alot , even though it gets irritating sometimes , it still is fun.
 
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mentosa

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Seriously. Aiden's path was the only one that moved this game along. L&P said there was not going to be a hard gangbang scene. His usage of the words hard gang bang has lead to some speculation about wtf that actually means and the difference between a hard gang bang and soft gang bang which I can only imagine is the difference between a consensual gang bang and a forced gangbang.
I swear people have forgotten this started out as a corruption game and is now a dopey romance telenova version of a vn masquerading as a corruption game.
Typical scum LP :D Talking in riddles, being purposely obscure. "Rather not" is this retards favorite phrase, so even if I missed this discussion about hard vs. soft gangbang, I sounds so much like LP, that it is not surprising :D

People are hypnotized by a beautiful woman even if literally no action is happening are precisely the ones that do not remember that the tags "corruption" is still in the tag list. :D :D
 
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I think At this point L&P need insane story comeback if he want to keep doing this game . even in fan art there are many peoples who make better story . L&P doesnt want to expand he want all profit for own .
 
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I think At this point L&P need insane story comeback if he want to keep doing this game . even in fan art there are many peoples who make better story . L&P doesnt want to expand he want all profit for own .
Are you serious LP has a plan written out from beginning to end which he follows look at the rules I can only name the last three Dashon and Vika gym three apostles sex education in the hospital with old people. Everything is going according to plan until he goes beyond the bounds of decency
 
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I think At this point L&P need insane story comeback if he want to keep doing this game . even in fan art there are many peoples who make better story . L&P doesnt want to expand he want all profit for own .
fan art is better than LP pixel and this is the best walkthrough that I like. but however this side branch does not apply to the main game.
 
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in terms of graphics the fan art is not better than the originals and the models do not come close to the originals; to
I agree with you. But fan art has a slight advantage because it's not AI!. There the person controls, and where does the AI control?. He can draw two fingers and this has happened more than once. Sorry, I want to clarify a little more. I like LP Pixel, mostly his work, Aiden's last task. I'm not a fan of Elvin and all his trilogies. Well, how Sophia danced on a pole to music really impressed me and I'll give this plot a solid five. Even the music goes in time with her movements on the pole, it's incredibly beautiful.
 
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