VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Joshua Tree]

I can tell you one thing. Expecting people to read the text in a porn game or adult fiction, as some of you want to call it, is going to end badly. I would say a good majority of people don't care about plot or character development they just want to see some lewd content which you won't get for a while with games like this. On top of all this the plot reminds me of the movies you'd see on Lifetime except there's gonna be tits and dicks which makes it more interesting.

Can't you just as well hang out on porntube and rub your knob until it bleed then? Adult game doesn't necessary mean hardcore porn. Maybe I'm not one of the majority then, but I really like the game how/story how it is. If you just want to fap to cgi and don't care about story or anything like that. Then what you want is just a CGI slideshow.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Is Patreon essential to gain awareness or pledge income? Because if you look at like Avenger with his SOB/Big Kyuash, you could get his game by pay through like PayPal and other means. And those been around for a very long time (the games). To gain awareness to reach out to "adult players", the internet doesn't run any shortage in adult sites to post at.

 

[ponyguy]

The thing is that for many people (like me) the irrelevant stuff is very relevant and what separates it from (in my opinion) boring "smut" games like "Lilly of the valley" and such that can be very unsexy for some because everybody acts like a retarded pervert all the time. I understand some people are looking for just that and that's fine but for others the "foreplay"" is very important in adult games. Foreplay is not irrelevant for everybody you know.

But he's not skipping the ''foreplay''. Just slightly reducing the length. I haven't played the game, but from reading these posts there's apparently a lot of renders and dialogue in these scenes. Cutting out a few lines and renders won't damage them that much.

games like "Princess Evangile" that have 15+ hours of non-pornographic material before the sex happens

Christ, that sounds like such a drag. XD

For some of us it feels the same like it might feel for you if Hrein would say they would reduce the amount of renders, scenes and dialogues for "rape and girls with abs related content" in kingdom of deception

You mean like how they already did with the intro scenes? :FeelsBadMan: A very sad moment for me, but KoD is still going strong. A few less scenes, as much as I loved them, aren't stopping me from enjoying the rest of the game, which is still just as good. Hopefully it will be the same for you with this game.
But hell, what do I know? I'm not invested in the story like you guys, so obviously I'm not as worried. I'm just saying, wait and see first. And then, if it's not good enough, we can all start crying together. Like I did for those KoD scenes. :'(

 

[ShocLite12]

I found another error when Sophia is talking with Ellie and Dylan at the dinner table.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14468, in script
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14468, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_allows_Sam_to_sit_behind_her' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14468, in script
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1656, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1749, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1743, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14468, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_allows_Sam_to_sit_behind_her' is not defined

Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 6.99.12.4.2187
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.02 0.02

 

[ShocLite12]

I found a third error when Sophia goes to get a drink of water during the night.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in script
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_tolerated_Dylans_ass_grabber' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in script
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1656, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1749, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1743, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_tolerated_Dylans_ass_grabber' is not defined

Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 6.99.12.4.2187
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.02 0.02

 

[RWaites]

I found a third error when Sophia goes to get a drink of water during the night.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in script
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_tolerated_Dylans_ass_grabber' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in script
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1656, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1749, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\New folder (4)\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.02-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1743, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/script.rpy", line 14757, in <module>
NameError: name 'day3_Sophia_tolerated_Dylans_ass_grabber' is not defined

Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 6.99.12.4.2187
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.02 0.02

Are you playing with old saves, dev said they could cause problems as some dialogue in the demo was changed

 

[ShocLite12]

I just finished the latest version. Once again, I have to say that you have done a great job with this. There are some bugs in this version, but they are not game breaking. One minor complaint I have is that I feel like there was a missed opportunity with Patricia in the gym showers.

 

[ShocLite12]

Are you playing with old saves, dev said they could cause problems as some dialogue in the demo was changed

No, I started from scratch with this version.

 

[titokm10]

Lust & Passion wrote this on his patreon page:

Information about the further game development
I've started with the development of day 4!
Many people were disappointed about the new version cause it had not enough rougher "h-scenes" and because of the amount of renders and dialogues for "irrelevancies" which I've put into the game to give it a more natural and aesthetic color. And to bring a touch of quality in this genre. After putting thousand hours in that update it was also disappointing for me to hear that. Seems that for the vast majority the story develops TOO slowly and TOO realistically.

So, I'll try my best to speed things up now, by reducing the amount of renders, scenes and dialogues for "irrelevancies" as good as I can but keep them high for the really "interesting" scenes. But the general quality of the renders will remain the same. And I also won't change the realism of the slowly event development but just like I said: speed things up a bit.

From now on, updates will contain a half a day and will be much smaller. But on the other hand, will highly probable be released every month.

The next day 4 will have a time leap of one week. So, it starts as day 4 Wednesday but will end as day 11 Wednesday. During that period the interior of the new house will get some slight renovation and change. The characters will pursue their normal activities and work their way though the first week of school and job. And of course, Liam will return from his business trip.

So:

Version 0.025 = Day 4 Wednesday Morning - Noon

Version 0.03 = Time leap to Day 11 Wednesday Noon - End of this day

I truly believe this is the correct aproach for thid game to succed make the sex scenes long and the other ones short im really looking forward for next version now !!!

 

[Vampira]

Beautifully made game, in depth story, so that's all to the good, but 95% novel and only a few choices and very little porn content as of yet, but that may change as the plot moves on.

 

[redwind21]

This long anticipated update did not disappoint me at all. It's a very solid game that's a lot of fun to play. It doesn't jump into sex right away, which is another thing I appreciate about it. It has a more real life feeling like Good Girl Gone Bad, which also happens to be one of my favorites. When it first came out, I tried the RPG Maker version. I think it actually makes more sense to keep this one as a Ren'py game.

 

[ShocLite12]

Information about the further game development
I've started with the development of day 4!
Many people were disappointed about the new version cause it had not enough rougher "h-scenes" and because of the amount of renders and dialogues for "irrelevancies" which I've put into the game to give it a more natural and aesthetic color. And to bring a touch of quality in this genre. After putting thousand hours in that update it was also disappointing for me to hear that. Seems that for the vast majority the story develops TOO slowly and TOO realistically.

So, I'll try my best to speed things up now, by reducing the amount of renders, scenes and dialogues for "irrelevancies" as good as I can but keep them high for the really "interesting" scenes. But the general quality of the renders will remain the same. And I also won't change the realism of the slowly event development but just like I said: speed things up a bit.

From now on, updates will contain a half a day and will be much smaller. But on the other hand, will highly probable be released every month.

The next day 4 will have a time leap of one week. So, it starts as day 4 Wednesday but will end as day 11 Wednesday. During that period the interior of the new house will get some slight renovation and change. The characters will pursue their normal activities and work their way though the first week of school and job. And of course, Liam will return from his business trip.

So:

Version 0.025 = Day 4 Wednesday Morning - Noon

Version 0.03 = Time leap to Day 11 Wednesday Noon - End of this day

I truly believe this is the correct aproach for thid game to succed make the sex scenes long and the other ones short im really looking forward for next version now !!![/QUOTE]

I am fine with the way the story is progressing to be honest. There are hints of what may be coming soon, but there is no ultra horny characters and the plot is fleshed out quite nicely. In other words, it comes off as a good visual novel. Hopefully the time skip won't distort the story and the development will continue to naturally progress.

 

[PoEbalu]

he said he had like 30 days of script,but now reduce it by 7.
it's like 7 days of scenes out of the window... must be painful.

 

[stoper]

@PoEbalu , he can make a 1 year jump and still have 30 days of content.

 

[lynx33]

Show what renders and text you think are unnecessary and I'll show you why you are wrong.

Explaining in detail how the guitar works. Showing several chords with several render changes and sounds going with them. For me as a musician who does know how to play guitar it was mildly funny, but ultimately boring as it was so basic. For someone who's not into the guitar or musical theory it must have been just nonsense. I appreciate that he wanted to showcase their mutual love and knowledge of music, but it could have been done with a much shorter summary of what we saw in that part. It felt more like the child/teen versions of "a musician explains a musicial concept to five different levels of advancement"-videos that some music mag puts on youtube than anything else.

 

[lynx33]

I can tell you one thing. Expecting people to read the text in a porn game or adult fiction, as some of you want to call it, is going to end badly. I would say a good majority of people don't care about plot or character development they just want to see some lewd content which you won't get for a while with games like this. On top of all this the plot reminds me of the movies you'd see on Lifetime except there's gonna be tits and dicks which makes it more interesting.

Actually in this game I think there might be too many renders for the text. Like, I love the renders, but I shouldn't need to click through three renders to get to the next line of text.

 

[lynx33]

Just to be clear, I think the game is amazing and I love the slow build (aside from, with this many shower scenes, we should have seen her tits), my issue is with some of the scenes being too long and having too many renders for the amount of text and what's happening in them (and the damn unskippable sounds. I play my games with volume down, always). I don't care if it's another 6 updates before she fucks someone, but I also don't want another basic music theory lesson as part of a scene that otherwise was very good.

Edit: Oh and also, if I was playing a hentai game, I'd want as much text as possible considering how much of a turn off that visual style is.

 

[fauxplayer]

There are enough great games out there, and a lot more "good enough" games out there, to satisfy my itch, which is why I find this game/VN so appealing. It's beautifully rendered and interesting to read. I can easily point to certain scenes and identify a few (or many) "unnecessary" renders that could be skipped to reduce his workload. I get annoyed with some of the slow transitions and lame sound effects while clicking through that prevent the reader from moving more quickly. I can't count how many times I clicked twice and had to use the scrollwheel when I missed something only to realize I missed nothing at all.

But the scene with Ellie at the pool?!!!! Those series of renders were outstanding! A glimpse of leg here, a glimpse of a bikini tie there, then she takes off her towel, then the poses during the massage.... I do not judge anyone for bemoaning a lack of HC content in an "adult game," but that was one of the sexiest sequences in a VN/game I've ever seen. I can't wait for more Ellie content!

I hope the dev doesn't compromise too much in how fast he progresses the story. He would be wise to compromise a little and not spend dozens of hours rendering unnecessary CGs for every conversation, but the pacing of this story is fantastic.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Explaining in detail how the guitar works. Showing several chords with several render changes and sounds going with them. For me as a musician who does know how to play guitar it was mildly funny, but ultimately boring as it was so basic. For someone who's not into the guitar or musical theory it must have been just nonsense. I appreciate that he wanted to showcase their mutual love and knowledge of music, but it could have been done with a much shorter summary of what we saw in that part. It felt more like the child/teen versions of "a musician explains a musicial concept to five different levels of advancement"-videos that some music mag puts on youtube than anything else.

You not so interested in the whole "relation building" aspect of such games you I see Would it be better if he just out of the blue rammed it up her ass?

 

[Matt1]

I personally love everything about the game as currently constructed. Some of the slow, deliberate, drawn out scenes add mystery and intrigue to me wondering what is coming next. I also enjoy the feeling that I'm getting to know the characters on an almost personal level. I will be pledging here shortly to the developer and look forward to their updates. The way I look at things is no is ever going to be happy with everything, so best to just be you and develop the game how you feel. Just my $.02. It is obvious there is a large following of people who love the game as currently constructed.